Prettyboy Wrote: > (detractors/naysayers of lw orthodoxy). that > anyone should be wrestling with the good vs. the > evil at this point is either comatose or complicit > and i suggest that at this point there is > virtually no middle ground;. no middle ground, > period. I agree.
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Note: the effort to reconstitute the LW church in > Sepulveda continues. In fact they are working > hard at contacting members who have left and > convince them to return. I’d love to hear their > sales pitch. Free shit sandwiches, oh boy! "We promise there will be no sexual abuse in our ch
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p.s. I've heard that his Honolulu home has sold, so he is now a bit richer...so he can do even greater work for the Kingdom. Not.
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Walked Wrote: "My guess is that Gary is selling off U.S. assets and fleeing to Brazil where he might be safe from U.S. prosecution? The poor Brazilians have probably not quite caught wind of the typhoon hitting the States. To think that I ever thought anything good of Gary or Marilyn makes me feel like such a naive fool. They're the basest of con-artists." True
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Thanks Prettyboy. Appreciate it!
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Thank you for your kind words, Marci. Yeah, I've been here a long time, with over 1400 posts to date...some of them, I think, have actually helped people ;) Anyway, we're bound to have some internal strife as we're all looking to uncover the truth about what is and has taken place within this cult. To our credit, I think we have handled our disagreements in a far more mature &am
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Aleutian Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > I recently recalled a time I was > > volunteering > > > working on ¨G and M´s¨ luxury home on Oahu in > > > Hawaii. It was a hot summer day, and I didn´t > > > bring any sunscreen. > > Aleutian, > Did you ever "volunteer" to work on Gary'
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Reachingforward Wrote: > Thanks for the posts made in this forum and the > insight you all have provided. Hearing about what > went on behind the curtain was especially helpful. > It confirms what I suspected for a long time. I'm > sure your postings haven't always been easy but > I'm grateful for your honesty, candor and wit. > I'm especially g
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> Aleutian Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > I recently recalled a time I was > volunteering > > working on ¨G and M´s¨ luxury home on Oahu in > > Hawaii. It was a hot summer day, and I didn´t > > bring any sunscreen. Aleutian, Did you ever "volunteer" to work on Gary's Honolulu home? I hear it is prese
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hey, changed again > > any chance i can get raw goat milk instead of the > lemonade as i am allergic to lemons and > tweedle-e-dums? Of course, Prettyboy. I'll make an exception for you. p.s. bring your own sunscreen
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Someone else who loathed my sense of humor. But we still managed to get along for over 13 years:
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Work day at my house tomorrow. Free lemonade for all those that work hard... Sorry, it's too deeply entrenched in my nature :)
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It's very possible it's my posts that suck. I've had a few PM's sent to me while being here that would confirm your take. Again, no problem. Express yourself, and don't worry what people like me think. As far as going for a "cheap laugh", that part of me will always be here. Just ignore my posts if it bothers you--I won't be offended.
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pressingonbyHisgrace Wrote: > Believe me, I stopped having 'fun' early on and it > really hit rock bottom with G & H coming into > power, so we ran out of there as fast and far as > we could. It shouldn't viewed as a 'massive > distraction' to posit on the 'hook' that drew > some, but also to explore (and I'm not there at &g
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pressingonbyHisgrace Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well yeah, of course, but looking back I realize > what 'drew' me in initially was the appearance > that people were actually having fun in church. I > became saved in my last year of high school, (The > Jesus Movement) and came out of Catholicism right > into The Walk but I d
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Yeah, I just posted this comment because there's so much backlash from those who continue to enable the likes of Rick and Gary about people who have left having a "bad spirit" or consumed with being "negative." It's a massive distraction from meaningful discussion, I think. If someone has what I believe to be a valid point yet seems to lack a "right spirit"
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Welcome ReachingForward. I appreciate your extremely sane post. It's easy to question our own sanity with all the calculated propaganda we have been subjected to for so many years. This forum has been invaluable in helping us see things as they are, leading us down a path of healing and freedom. I am not obsessed with people being either negative or positive...it's whether what is b
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Aleutian Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I recently recalled a time I was volunteering > working on ¨G and M´s¨ luxury home on Oahu in > Hawaii. It was a hot summer day, and I didn´t > bring any sunscreen. > > I had the nerve to ask for some. After all, I was > working for free. Instead of them helping me, they > called for their
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i cannot imagine to ever have held him in any > esteem, but rather disgust. a user and one being > used Right now it seems the approach of some of the churches who are choosing to remain in TLWF and continue their adulation of Gary and his 'living word' is to maintain that sexual abuse occurs i
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Thank you, Pretty Boy.
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On the subject of having a "right spirit," I think much of this anger would subside if the leaders functioned with accountability. The 'Apology letter' could gone a long way in paving the road to healing, if Gary had simply acknowledged that he was aware of Rick's behavior, and should have done something about it. That's the type of remorse that will get the attenti
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BTW, one thing that became clear from my long-time involvement in TLWF was than when the sheep were upset about something, they were often chastised for having a "bad spirit." However, when the leaders would rant and rave about various things in the fellowship, they (generally) were given the benefit of the doubt, and viewed as channeling God's "righteous anger." Very con
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Welcome Prettyboy. Thanks for sharing a portion of your bio. I think your "independent spirit" helped you extricate yourself from the walk. Good thing to have, in retrospect. "there is a line in the new testament which reads something like "do not let the sun go down on your anger." Perhaps we can find a workaround, like Joshua did, making the sun stand still unti
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pressingonbyHisgrace Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reepicheep Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Changed and kBoy, > > > > Re: Being the center of the universe. Think JRS > > was narcissistic much? > > > "I am the neediest person in the Walk, I need 24/7 > intercession.
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Too bad no one had foresight to make a COTU t-shirt. I would be wearing it right now...no matter how tightly it fit :) (picture of the known universe, with an arrow pointing to Shiloh, dead center)
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Center of the Universe (COTU): I recall hearing this once, while listening to a cassette tape in the 70's of a message John brought in Shiloh. He referred to Shiloh as the center of the universe. I didn't take it literally, which may have been a sign of my unbelief--not sure.
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pressingonbyHisgrace Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 'If they carry me out of here feet first, it > wasn't a word from the Lord'-JRS > > Sorry, just a having a spew kind of day. No worries. You've earned the right to have spew kind of days. I'm sympathetic (oops..bad word) to people who endured this cult. They get lots
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pressingonbyHisgrace Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > changedagain > > > > > I'm not embarrassed to admit that I grieved > > about > > > it all day, eventually going to bed sobbing. > > The > > > Nephilim spirit has caused so much hurt. In > > fact, > > > I'm actually consider
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