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7 years ago
SouthGate
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > * * * * * FLASHBACK SUNDAY * * * * * > > (Or all the fun we are missing out on.) > > - - - - - > > Pray Without Ceasing! > > Posted on April 5, 2017 > by Debbie Oliveira > > > sing/ > > - - - - - > > Christ Ends Your Mistrust > > Posted on Apr
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7 years ago
SouthGate
howmidoing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LampShmamp Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Howmidoing, I enjoy your enthusiasm and quest > to > > galvanize the troops for change. I imagine we > have > > all dreamed about bringing down that > organization > > once and for all. G
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
Remember Everything someone might like.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
Wrong Side of Heaven is another good one by this group.
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7 years ago
SouthGate
Music always makes me happy. Maybe this will help some. FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH LYRICS "Lift Me Up" (feat. Rob Halford) It ain't no mystery I'm all I have left I'm pushing back and running you over I've been thrown down run around Beaten 'til I hit the ground Telling you right now that it's over There's no room for mis
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7 years ago
SouthGate
NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lily, many individuals and families like Sandjt's > were blown to smithereens. Heard men who left the > fellowship, ex-ministries, talk about the rejected > ones with little empathy. These men get together > to rekindle the camaraderie they once knew as > ministries. An addiction. I don&#
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
howmidoing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hello all, > > I've been trying to follow the threads here. I'm > glad I found this discussion forum. I was born > into S. California church and subsequently left > CTLW (they combined for Sunday service while I was > in my teens) about 16 years ago after getting > married and
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Larry. That Shiloh pastor was definitely > lying. > > > Gary insisted that members of the fellowship pray > for John's return. That was a significant > dividing line following John
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A Personal Time With Cardinal Dom Orani > > > rsonal-time-with-cardinal-dom-orani/ > > It is hard to imagine that TLW members will be > encouraged to start attending Catholic services, > or more unimaginable, be encouraged to actually > become Catholics. Perhaps there are hopes of >
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I’m encouraged by Gary’s efforts to reach out > to the Catholic Church. Hopefully, it will also > begin to extend to other Christian groups that > could really be a blessing to TLWF. I think if > you were to look objectively at John’s lesson on > Babylon in the First Principles, he did not vie
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7 years ago
SouthGate
dmw1970 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyone from the Fresno/Clovis Church? > > Diane I wasn't from there but I went there once. It was probably right before they closed it down.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
Larry -- I thought highly of some over others, but it was more of how I was treated by them. Some of the people on here think highly about some of the people that are no longer members and highly of some who are still members. I had some people treat me like crap and others that treated me well. Some of the ones that people say good things about on here didn't treat me so well. I'
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > If I'm offending or pissing anyone off with my > > post please speak up. If anyone wants me to > quit > > posting on here, please let me know also because > I > > will stop. Maybe thi
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > If I'm offending or pissing anyone off with my > > post please speak up. If anyone wants me to > quit > > posting on here, please let me know also because > I > > will stop. Maybe this
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
If I'm offending or pissing anyone off with my post please speak up. If anyone wants me to quit posting on here, please let me know also because I will stop. Maybe this does help some of you so I don't want to be responsible for adding to your pain.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
NickleandDimed, What I'm going to try and do is see if I can find these issues. I have lots of them and have read lots of stuff, and I believe some things were taken out of context. I know lots of things were said that sounded outlandish at times and I'm not saying all of it was correct or that I believed all of it. I just always felt that John loved me and others, and I know I was not
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7 years ago
SouthGate
He didn't accept the title of being an apostle for many years. Sort of humbling when you think about it, to ask the people to pray for him. I think Jesus asked them to pray for him in the garden, but most of us were too stupid to think he needed anything. I still believe that resurrection life is still possible, but haven't seen it yet. John was a human and to think he was perfect is/wa
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7 years ago
SouthGate
It seems that John the Baptist didn't get along with others either. Jesus really didn't go along with the status quo at the time, but then again he was Jesus. Why are there so many other denominations in the U.S.? Because they all believe and teach the same thing? I'm not saying John Stevens was perfect, but for whatever reason, he's getting a lot of blame for things that I d
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7 years ago
SouthGate
TheJewel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "I never knew R.D. Cronquist except to see him > sometimes at South Gate. He would put his chair > right next to the pulpit on the platform and sit > right in front of all the others on the platform. > That always seemed strange to me." > > > Yea RD definitely had a strange strea
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
I just wanted to add. I know a lot of crap went on over the years, and lots of it I don't understand. I'm probably not affected by a lot of it because I did not ask where to live or go to church or anything. John told me and wife after we got married he thought it would be a good idea to go the Anaheim. We did for a little while just to be submissive, but didn't like it there as mu
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7 years ago
SouthGate
TheJewel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > TheJewel Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Try this one: > > > > > > > > > > > > 6/8/24680235
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7 years ago
SouthGate
FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate wrote: “She said her dad and Brother > Wilson said they didn't have witness on the mine > and didn't think it was good idea. Brought it up > in the elders and deacons meeting but nobody > wanted to listen including John.” > > ------------- > > Wow, how lenient and lax.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate, I feel you are entitled to your > opinion, even if your opinion extends to a certain > tenderness towards Stevens that others do not > subscribe to. Many of us turn up here because we > have negative views about him and the Walk, but I > have observed great variation here as to whether
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > > I see a little flame that was imparted to all > of > > us that hasn't been snuffed out no matter what. > > > I don't see that at all. You come across as an > ap
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tmason........so you and little Paul were only 5 > or 6 years old? I wonder if JRS's attorney son in > law, Helphand, (who should have known the laws > pertaining to child labor) the Holder's or your > parents even gave a flying fig that since 1938 > there were child labor laws to prevent
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Several mentioned their relationship with Dan > Statton, and I just wanted to say how much I > appreciated him and his family during their time > in Des Moines in the 70’s. All of them added a > touch of class to our local church and were so > kind to others in their relating. Dan was > espe
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 40yearsin2016 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Being outside of So. Cal. we weren't totally > > immune. > > > > In 1979-80, JRS had our senior ministry staff > > deliver the word that many of "the best" of our > &g
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7 years ago
SouthGate
Just a side note. I was around in the 50's to today.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 years ago
SouthGate
Tmason Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Greetings, > So great to find this forum. I am truly torn on my > opinions and feelings. > My family joined TLW in San Diego in 1972 or > therabouts. My mother still attends. I stopped > attending in DC back in 1984. I met a girl in 1984 > and of course I was forced to choose between TLW > and
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