I know you don't read my post anymore N&D, but do you still have contact with the expats?
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I never got passed the set aside deacon.
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I apologize for posting to you one last time lily rose, but I feel the need to explain myself about the post on 5/3/17. The discussion was about the broken reed, and in my ignorance I assumed people would get what I was posting. I was posting a song that I thought people would appreciate the words if you no longer were a member of TLWF. I'm going to post those lyrics and please just read the
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > southgate- > > After your 4/11/17 offensive comment about those > booted out or had broken marriages, I stopped > reading your posts. That is until 5/3/17 when the > posted comments by CA and Nickle called my > attention to another one of your offensive posts. > I don't read your pos
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I have a hard time with mainstream religion, especially the Catholic church that was molesting children and then covered it up. This isn't to cover up abuses made in TLWF, but just wanted to say mainstream religion isn't always so great either. Most religion is about the money, which is sad. JMHO
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lily rose, Those are all very good verses, no doubt about it, but I hear a lot of speculation on this website and rumors. I could post a lot of things that I've heard over the years, and who knows lots of it could be true. I wish more people that had 1st hand knowledge of this stuff would post on here. It's not going to happen as long as people keep pounding someone just because they
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Dude, think what you want but I'm not blaming anyone including you. If my situation was different, say they split up me and my wife, I would be one pissed off person to say the least. Plus, I wasn't always like this. I was blaming plenty of people for a lot of things, but finally had to let it go because I'm not totally without blame myself. When they sold Anaheim, I didn't g
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I know I said I wouldn't post on here anymore, but I like what Invisible has to say. Just because he/she doesn't have the same opinion, isn't that one of the things you hate about TLWF. You voice your opinion and they shut you down? Just so you know, the last time my wife and I went to CLW which was after GC was sold, one of the ministries, who my wife adores and had me pray f
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > lily rose Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > changedagain Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > NickleandDimed Wrote: > > > > > > ----------------------------------
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howmidoing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > That's why churches should be treated like a > > business and no none profit status or no > donation > > write-offs. > > > > > I disagree. The government should not be involv
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > > Enough of the bruised reed crap. Time to Lift > Me > > Up. > > :) > > > Ah yes....your miserable standard again. I found > the bruised reed comments edifyin
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Enough of the bruised reed crap. Time to Lift Me Up. :)
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That's why churches should be treated like a business and no none profit status or no donation write-offs.
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kbyrne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Re: TLW finances. > > I've read a lot posts and have been doing some > soul searching and some internet searching. > Coming to terms that I was in a cult, it's not an > easy thing. I saw there were others that struggled > with that as well. I read something online from > "Cu
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Meanwhile, until the people here decide whether > they want periodic updates regarding page views, > I'll take this opportunity to share other stats > that I have been holding back until now. How > about this: > 99.6% of the people that have written in this > forum have refused to hav
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kbyrne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > CORRECTIONS -- I mean Numerical Order.... I don't know how people fell for that. That was never to be, at least my understanding of what we were taught. Now who's number 1? I know who it should be, but it sure as hell isn't man or woman.
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cloudwatcher Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > NickleandDimed Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Changedagain, > > > > > > Gary IMO advanced quicker than his pe
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > kbyrne, Gary did said to the congregation that he > didn't divorce Donna to marry Marilyn. What I > heard. Could have come from a rumor mill. It was > from someone on the inside. Puddington referenced > experiencing the LW's unequal yoke doctrine. As > cynical as is sounds, there wer
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I just wanted to clarify my last statement. > I've > > cast the 1st stone and many other stones my > whole > > life. I've used my miserable yardstick on so > many > > others al
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I just wanted to clarify my last statement. I've cast the 1st stone and many other stones my whole life. I've used my miserable yardstick on so many others all the while a yardstick couldn't measure my own shortcomings.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > > > I remember Gary denying in South Gate that he > was > > going to marry Marilyn. > > Interesting...but not surprising. Didn't this guy > once have some integrity? I'm really in no position to be questioning anyone's integrity. The whole
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Welcome to the group, kbyrne. > > > For several years, when things struck me as > strange, I > > just filed them away as something I didn't > > understand. When people left, like the > Corbetts > > and then the Finneys, I just wondered why, but > > never questi
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changedagain, > > Gary IMO advanced quicker than his peers not > because he was more dedicated or submissive. He > had a greater ability to preach. Those instant > pastors and their home groups Lily mentioned when > the LW was growing had to tithe to John. Money > came in during thos
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LILY ROSE: > > It was the Roman Catholic Church, but > forgetfulness works wonders if it advances your > career. In the new one it's called the Church of Rome, but it does have a disclaimer saying it's not intended to single out or condemn any individual, religion, or denomination. Gary or w
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi all, checking in. I got caught up on the posts > --mulling things over. Some ideas I have read > have been disturbing. I am pissed that G man is > twirling the Lw around and around with no end in > sight. Over and over and now we find that there > are other deities besides God? I bet he
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No wonder ex-members are suspicious of Gary's > hype. About oneness and unity with Catholics. G > says its shared oneness in Christ and unity in > diversity of their different doctrines. But > G&M lacked oneness and unity with their own. > Throwing out members who wouldn't marry
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Two Churches, One Heart – Together, Bringing > God’s Kingdom > > April 9, 2017 — Sunday > by Gary Hargrave > > - > churches-one-heart-together-bringing-gods-kingdom/ > > > (Or how to subsidize the overhead and keep from > going under.) > > - - - - - > > A Wa
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I was born a poor black child. I remember the > > days, sitting on the porch with my family, > singing > > and dancing down... > > Wait...this is someone else's journey. Please > >
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NickleandDimed Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > SouthGate Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > > I would say most ex-members unless you were > > booted > > &
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Nobody's keeping you from posting about the G-man or TLWF. Quit trying to tell people what to do. Are you trying to be our designated overseer. LOL!!! Here I'm telling you what to do. Just ignore the stuff you don't like. :)
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