NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How many women who knew too much eneded > up in psych? ( I confess I ended in psych. I also > had to call DHS for help. They took my kids > knowing that they were part of the chidlren in the > Walk. That is how I was able to get my children > out of the walk. The stories Russel told were not > acc
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Tknc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm starting to realize that the idea of > transference, being affected, attacks by nephilim > spirits, Body signs...etc all of them are very > convenient constructs for manipulation and never > having to take responsibility for your own > actions. Always shifting responsibility from > yourself
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NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > My husband could not make decisions on his own nor > keep a job. In faact he did not know how to buy > underware. We got amarried and i saw his holey > undeware. He wsa teacher for 2 years.. I said , > "John, why don;t you go buy new jocky short?" "I > have to pray about." th
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jhorning Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “Lions don’t care about the opinions of sheep.” > Sheriff Israel, Broward County Sheriffs Office > > Kind’a sums up the leadership attitude of the > living word church. RIGHT ON-- jhorning. The quote is a paraphrase from the Game of Thrones character Tywin Lannister, a villainous community leader,
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girls_turn_it_off welcome and thanks for the nod. I think your screen name made a lot of us smile. I appreciated hearing that your dad had the maturity to apologize for getting you all involved. changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------ Bear in mind it has been 20 years since I have opened a Bible. WOW. TheycalledmeJonah Wrote: ----------------------
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puddington and Invisible the caged bird is a great metaphor for life in the LW. I thought about how the LW clipped our wings through control over our lives and coercive persuasion. There's a beautiful poem if anyone cares to google it by Maya Angelou called, "I know why the caged bird sings." Godspeed Reepicheep. Your concern for the caged birds in TLWF was evident in your contr
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheJewel Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Most of these guys were natural salesmen with a > > salesman’s flair and a well developed ability > to > > read people. The question for me has always > been > > is whether JRS and RD (the ones I knew
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "A confidence trick is an attempt to defraud a > person or group after first gaining their > confidence, used in the classical sense of trust. > Confidence tricks exploit characteristics of the > human psyche, such as credulity, naïveté, > compassion, vanity, irresponsibility, and greed.
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- NARCISSISTIC MANIAC ON THE LOOSE ALERT: We Must Foster And Nurture The Holy Spirit’s Presence Posted on January 24, 2018 By Gary Hargrave On Monday, January 22nd, I was honored to speak to the leadership (BOYS FROM BRAZIL) of the Catholic charismatic movement in Brazil (NAZI HAVEN). I began by expressing th
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > More Random Thoughts... > > Of course, > there was no chance that those elders challenging > some of the beliefs and practices in the Walk > would win. After all, JRS owned the church. Why > were there elders? Anyone who questioned him was > out. Exactly. Another example of the dece
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I still think that was it very wrong for personal > information, situations and direction to be tape > recorded, transcribed and filed. It will probably > never be used against anyone, and maybe it was > even done with good intentions. Just the idea that > it could still exist is disturbing. >
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >. I hope it didn't play any part in getting > people to sign non-disclosure agreements. (Did you > all know about that?) How would you like to read > all that garbage? I can only hope that at some > point it was all shredded and is not still out > there somewhere. Hi Reepicheep...last yr
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Later wondered if the implosion was God's way of > "saving" those who would be saved from the ravages > of the cult. I've wondered that too.
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > larry bobo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------------- > Within TLWF, looking for direction from the > leadership is considered a mark of maturity. > > > corboy Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > A disciple is not the same as an i
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I'm interested in the experiences you shared, > kbyrne. I think that most or all of the members of > TLWF have either received back room ministry or > been the subject of discussion between ministries > meeting privately at some point. It's kind of > creepy looking back. > &
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kbyrne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I was surprised reading about Gruenberg. From > what I understand, and I could be wrong, but he's > still a part of the church. Hi kbyrne...I recall reading on Facnet that at one point Craig left the cult and later came back and was restored....whatever that means. I don't know if that info
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12. Are you told that you are specially chosen as > “saviors” of the world, as long as you remain in > the group? I think it can be so difficult to unlearn the false destructive teaching of the LW regarding discipleship and being special. The LW hubris and elitism were/are imprinted on the members to the point that if you ever say to yourself, "I want out; I can't do this a
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Vere had built the Des Moines church from scratch, > which was different than many of the other local > churches. He received no financial benefit from > the sale of the building or from a residential > property that had been given to him personally. A > group of five men corporate
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This lady knows about the LW in Los Angeles Area > and has helped a lot of people. > > I tried sending you a pm about this video, but your pm box is full. Thank you so much for sharing this.
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Nickle, Reep and changed-the events at Grace Chapel Honolulu were happening all over the Walk. It was 1979 and the kingdom didn't come. Woodrow Nichols said JRS was restructuring the Walk and removing leaders he didn't trust. He mentions in his book some 34 changes. JRS also removed Bickhart and RD. It also seems that by 1979 or maybe earlier JRS had received his cancer diagnosis. The
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I used to feel the most extraordinary anointing when I prophesied in an Italian accent. "The Lord has prepared for you a table of resurrection life, sonship, and spaghetti." Sorry about that.
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I never attended any backroom meetings. But I did continually hear about people receiving words from the Lord and hearing from God speaking directly to their personal situation in personal ministry from the leadership or through prophecy. Most in the forum now recognize those words were just opinions, non authoritative and fallible words. The leadership followed ideas that entered their minds whi
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Thank you Corboy for pointing out the numerous posts on this message board containing the problems and concerns relative to the ministries of JRS, G&M, and others. Some have written that JRS and G&M were/are charlatans, deceptive, liars, or having untreated mental health issues. Others, though far less in numbers, who adhere to the LW combo of Scripture and extra Biblical revelation, writ
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TheycallmeJonah sometimes I get a little nervous when I learn that someone just left the LW. For me, ten years of false visions, false revelations, false words of knowledge, false wisdom and spiritual manipulation (which the leadership said was the Holy Spirit) almost did me in. But you seem to have the resilience of youth. I am happy for you and your newly found freedom. Keep posting. You might
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There's so much "new thing" in the LW. I remember the 1970's were banner years for new things. We eagerly awaited each new JRS tape and the next new thing God was doing. Funny that all the new things JRS said he (the anointed one) received from God were the teaching of the entire Latter Rain movement. And then there were the Latter Rain tape reels found in JRS's home. Aw
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I happen to know that Invisible had a lot of > personal contact with John that many of us did not > have, and they really are a treasure to this > discussion. It’s a difficult process to unwrap > the brain washing that has taken place, and we do > need to have compassion for each other, no matter
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reepicheep Wrote: > > > Puddington mentioned the "Rebellion is as > > witchcraft" mantra. It reminded me of a > situation > > in about 1970. I don't know the names or > > specifics, but I was told by a ministry high in > > the Walk leadership that a Blix gi
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > *Disciples tell devotional stories about the > leader. Perhaps the leader does not mention these > incidents. But--disciples who are in favor with > the leader keep the miracle chatter going. > That's exactly what happened to me in my first communal home experience, My roommate had joined
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Rick Ross has some short videos on youtu.be. One I > watched is titled "Is Joining A Cult A Personal > Choice?" I found it very helpful. > > > I tried the link, and it didn't work. But if you > just google Cult Education Institute, videos > should come up on the page.
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Hi Invisible, When I joined I didn't do an exhaustive analysis of world religions and decided the LW presented the best theology available. I had no biblical discernment skills and did not realize then that many of JRS's teachings go against the Bible. But I probably hoped the LW would fulfill very real perceived needs. After I left I tried to forget about the whole time I was there.
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