NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington, > > > > I recall spiraling down in depression. One of the > older pastors expressed concern. John said it was > tribulation. John lacked discernment. He saw > mental health through a lens of spirituality. Most > charismatics do. They ignore the biological and > p
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do you think there are an unusual number of TLW > members with mental problems? Depression. > Schizophrenia. Etc. Do you think the LW > environment attracts them? And exasperates their > problems? > > One thing is apparent to me. The LW doesn't help > them. I can remember certa
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Corboy-Thanks for the link about the hot church. The story has the makings of a great reality tv show. Interesting to me is a comparison with the hot church and TLWF cult. In TLWF, the intruder mentioned in the hot church story, would have been removed by G-man the first time he even uttered a criticism and probably would have been labeled a Nephilim or Jezebel. I was thinking about the "br
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is COHK pronounced "cock"? This message board likes sharing COHK-A-MAMIE tales about the leadership. Welcome seventies walker.
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Regarding kBOY's, puddington's, and 40years's comments-It seems to me Gary is using JRS's unfulfilled prophecies and unproven visions to keep the sheep loyal. That's one reason why I think it's a disservice to those still under the mind control to speak of JRS as a sacred cow. How does Gary even put his pants on in the morning? The link below is a study of child
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Is the White House West Wing functioning like a cult. Let he who proclaimed loyalty, who served the leadership, whose star once shined briefly, had a baby, gets a divorce and then is rejected and sent packing, cast the first stone. The Scarammucci story sounds slightly familiar....that's what loyalty to leadership will get you. Is Anthony Scaramucci Gary's evil twin. Scaramucci
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It's comforting to know that when G-man returns from months of globe trotting, alone and unattended, he can find solace and rest in his three million dollar Honolulu parsonage. P.S. kBOY-I agree with NickleandDimed. That thing you do rocks.
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This is my take on Ordinary People and why it may be healing for LW cult survivors. Conrad's PTSD and depression had its roots in Beth's abusive and cold narcissism and only caring about having the appearance of the perfect family. Conrad is her scapegoat as was the congregation to M. I think the movie is healing because eventually the father becomes aware of Beth's evil narcissism
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The redemptive symbolism in Groundhog Day is genius. Anyone who feels the LW cult was a curse on your life and you are going to live that stuff every day until you day should watch it.
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Victoria-I appreciate the kind way you have reached out to Cloudwatcher. Many of us have had to fight many ghosts of the cult since leaving. It is perfecting understandable to feel we didn't protect our children...the consequences of the stresses on the parents and result of trying to bear all the lopsided thinking and demands of the leadership. I recall JRS publically rebuked parents for
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NickleandDimed and Corboy--thanks for the links on American guru and other resources. I was so happy for those people in the video who left the cult and it fell apart. A few years ago my Doc recommended yoga for my stiff shoulder. Prior to beginning the yoga stretches, the teacher asked us to offer up a prayer to some guru. I was outta there. Cloudwatcher said "...trying to find some sens
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I submitted an article on cults to the NY York times. It was rejected. Below is the kind of ignorant commentary they prefer to publish. The Cult Deficit Ross Douthat SEPT. 27, 2014 LIKE most children of the Reagan era, I grew up with a steady diet of media warnings about the perils of religious cults — the gurus who lurked in wait for the unwary and confused, offering absolute cer
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > HEADBANGER NEWS: THE KOOL-AID ZINGER OF ALL > ZINGERS > > I Will Drink This Cup > > July 9, 2017 — by Gary Hargrave > > > This morning I brought a message titled “I Will > Drink This Cup” more Kool-Aid at Shiloh, > Kalona, Iowa. > These
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Hi everyone- This will be really brief without any judgments. I haven't been following the strand the past few days due to a difficult personal matter, for which I will be taking a brief break. I'm not comfortable sharing my private life on line so I will leave it at that. CA and I communicated about our differing points of view and over reaction to comments made. I think were good.
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I didn't buy before a few years ago when you posted you were really a little person. And I don't buy it now. It reflects in the things you say.
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Say what you will CA. You were in the ministry. Maybe you were one of those who piled in on the little people. I support and applaud any little person who wants to ignore or shun an abuser on this forum who has come to the message board with an agenda, and persists in spewing that agenda, and who can't even come up with any argument to defend their position. Seriously, I think the message b
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southgate- After your 4/11/17 offensive comment about those booted out or had broken marriages, I stopped reading your posts. That is until 5/3/17 when the posted comments by CA and Nickle called my attention to another one of your offensive posts. I don't read your posts. And I respectfully ask that in the future you not comment on any of my posts.
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slandjt- Last year someone complained about Larry Bobo preaching. Rick Ross said on the message board that he took a look at Larry's posts and found that Larry had made a significant contribution to the forum. Ross has said that at times members of the message board may make distinctions regarding "mainstream beliefs of a particular religion to better forum the contrast between that re
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I would like to thank Larry and Mike for speaking out for over a decade and exposing the LW cult and its leadership (JRS, Marilyn, and Gary) without holding back and without apology. There are no sacred cows. It's probably because of your example that I am also able to speak out. It might be of interest to some to see how false teachers, false prophets, and false brethren are portrayed i
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rond- you tell us you are in a good place without Jesus and there is really nothing for you to sort out. You have a wife and you seem unscathed by having been in the Walk. Many of us checked out other spiritual paths too. It's a personal choice. We get it. I respect your choice. However, you come across as a bit clueless about the how people were profoundly hurt and damaged by the Walk and
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Invisible Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree we may warn - but I think it is important > how we go about warning. Let your words be > seasoned with grace. > > Okay - so some people completely condemn or all > but condemn JRS. I believe I have been given the > right to judge a "matter" for myself but not the > righ
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As far as my time in TLWF being the will of God, I > tend to think now that God can use even our > mistakes for our good in the end. Often our > greatest hurts become our ministry to others. Yes-a ministry of warning.
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Invisible-I struggle with condemning the teachings of JRS that were untrue and to me faith destroying versus judging him for his errors. Here's something I found. The Apostle Paul spent years warning the churches about those who would try to destroy their faith, who would come as false spiritual leaders and teachers to take them away from the truth. They masquerade as those who represent God
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Invisible Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > It wasn't John's fault that I made John out to > be > > more to me than he should be. > > Invisible, I respectfully have to disagree with > this one statement. I hold JRS p
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > kbyrne said, "When did it happen, where did it > happen for me that it stopped being God's word and > it was John's word? When was the line crossed?" > > Something I jotted down from Why People Fall > for Charismatic Leaders: "When you reinforce a > very strong
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Invisible-how funny that Tony wasn't shy about sharing his situation. I recall hearing another rumor about him. That he had anger problems because he had submitted himself to some kind of mind control experiments. That's pretty far out huh? A while back after viewing the Vain Glory video I did a google search on Tony. Some gossip popped up about him living in Colorado in his VW around t
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I said in my above post that I was present when Tony got ministry in 1978. That is probably not the correct year. It would have much earlier than 1978 I think. I knew Tony's wife Miriam, not well, but we often would get rides together to Southgate or Anaheim. Both she and Tony were very intense people to be around. And little did we know the back story. I think Tony and Miriam divorced befor
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changedagain said, "We may be instruments of Satan, but for the most part we're considerate and actually have some concern for the well being of others--" Ever wonder about the well being of Tony Cox's daughter known as Ruthie. Her actual name is Kyoko Chan Cox. She was kidnapped by her father and hid out in the Walk until 1978 at which time Ruthie and her stepmother Miri
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Sometimes the people whose lives were trashed and betrayed by TLWF cult can't get past the pain. Often times deep personal pain causes us to turn from God. It seems a natural follow up to having your life trashed that members and posters would talk about that. After all the whole point of being in the LW in the first place was for walk with God. I don't think talking about it is preachi
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Forget those two pranksters. My link to my FB photo works.
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