Checked in after a few months . .. sad to say that I see everyone is still conflicted to some degree . . sad and sorry at the same time . . . .take care . . .
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Just caught up on the last few pages . . .
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Greetings from Radio Free Land, > > Richard M., putting your story together with a > quote from 40yearsin2016 that changedagain > recently reposted, it is clear to me now that > Marilyn was the means by which The Walk/TLWF > continued to control so many lives past June 4, > 1983. >
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > richard m, > > indeed a lot of sad stories but many in transition > to enlightenment. perhaps one of the saddest > stories in this complex saga is your former wife, > marilyn and consequently, you. you can best > imagine in whole what us others can only in part > imagine should we care t
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A lot of sad stories here . . . My opinion, Marilyn never had any contact with anything out of or above this world . . . never . . .
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Reepicheep, Prettyboy, Amos; some quotes, “ . . . congregants who are not learning from mistakes, whether their own or others . . . and the comfort of yesterday's illusions.” . . . “ . . . so many desperately trying to press on as if nothing had happened . . .” . . . “ . . . one person in the marriage was less dedicated to serving Marilyn or Gary or JRS than the other . . .” I don’t kno
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I will try to answer some of the following comments and questions by filling in some of the past with Marilyn and with observations of the “Girl's Turn It Off” tape. But I’m afraid it may cause a few disconnects as well as more questions. First, there’s so many personally involved here that I might try to explain why I find the tape humorous while others may not. I’m essentially an outsi
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Reeo, I listened to the girls tape and, sorry, but I was laughing so hard I had to refresh it.When I have a little time I'll say more, but she had no idea how to explain what Mother Nature built in between men and women . . .
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Onion, I read the Marzoni article. Will have a comment later
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Prettyboy wrote: “richard m, “someday i hope to meet you, albeit i am in iowa and you in calif, i have so relished your posts over the last month or so. i read pain but not bitterness, clarity but confusion and a total sense of who you were all those years ago and who you are today. i think had you and i met years ago or even tomorrow, the embrace would be the same. your contribution to this fo
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. . . "Independent investigation?" Just exactly what is and who does an independent investigation? Church members? Good luck . .. . .
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Changedagain, While I know Stevens was a phoney, I didn't know Hargrave, but for Marilyn, she fully believed Stevens was the way to "serve God. " What changes happened to her afterwards I don't know.
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Onion, regarding your last paragraph, you can explain it to them but you can't comprehend it for them . . ... .
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Onion wrote: " . . . I found out recently that, yes indeedy, Gary monitors us closely. He asked some people (I don't have details) if anyone could think of a way to silence me. This occurred last summer before anything from any of us went public on FaceBook. I hope to get more information on the context of the statement. Hopefully, it was not said at a gun range. I also think that
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: "I am sorry Richard that you were not able to right the ship--it was impossible back then. But I am so grateful you have lifted the shroud over the mystery for all to see--and they do see. May their cognitive dissonance come to the breaking point. . . . . " --- While it may be late in coming, it seems that whether it's just fate or a more insightful force th
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While reading everything here on page 840, including comments by Tmason, this whole thing, "JRS, Marilyn, Gary and Rick," reminds me of an organized crime syndicate, but finds me with great trepidation for the unknowing victims now caught as willing or unwilling witnesses questioning whether or not to testify to an enlightened truth of the past intent on ousting the guilty while saving
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Onion, Good advice. However, in my sorted experience, unless self-enlightened by events and the wisdom and maturity of age, successfully encouraging those still driven by “faith” to recognize and break from false tenants and criminal acts and report their own acquiescence is like contemplating the space between Mars and Jupiter . . . . while it may not satiate a righteous apatite to fully cle
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dirtybrushes Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Richard M. I am very grateful for the honesty and > the time you have poured into disclosing all of > this. It's truly time that your story be heard. I > know this sounds like your typical confirmation > bias, but I did always feel something fishy about > Marilyn and Gary and the whole myst
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NancyO, Regarding "Orange County," criminal records, etc., it would be a complicated course to achieve what you ask from out of state. Absent locating a willing attorney experienced in like matters and maybe with an ax to grind on his or her own, there are now on-line sites I've used that specialize in finding criminal records and locating people. But it's hit or miss. If ther
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NancyB, so, you said, "I'm just an old RN and psycho thriller novelist- what do I know, either? Perhaps, owners of DNA that left deposited in all the wrong places might start shaking in their boots at minimum." Good for you. What most don't know, before my 30 years on the LAPD, my 4 years in the Air Force found me graduated from its medical school at Gunter, Alabama, as a M
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quotepuddington > > Yes. And I recall that the Blix girls in the 70’s > & 80’s were taught to “get Marilyn’s thinking”. > Because she had the “mind of Christ”. To think > like her, was to think like God. > > I’m not kidding. I heard this doctrine myself. > > > I remember,
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First, this … then I’ll try to answer other more specific comments: During the last two years of our marriage, and ultimately my wasted time at trying to save it by attending more church meetings at her insistence, Marilyn directly expounded on the status of men in the church as being useful only for the "spiritual leadership" of the family. She cited some passage as source. Anything
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Okay, I am digesting the last two pages here and will address a little more of Marilyn's comments and rationale about the use of "men." While it has always been clear to me, I see its been a question for some others . . .
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Reepicheep and NancyB: My one regret here, when reading what could have been a more intrusive protest and correction by me at the time into what should have been openly obvious to all, was to stand up at a major gathering and say all that I now "report." I considered it, but as well the plethora of plausible outcomes affecting I neither knew "whom," nor how. I had no doubt
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puddington, you likely knew George better than I. While we were friendly, it mostly grew from my insight into corruption at the then Malabo Sheriffs station I previously talked about. But one thing I was sure about was the insidious scheme of creating what was known as the woman group of "intercessors," some five or six?, ostensibly protecting Stevens from "demons." For me, a
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Okay, I figured out the private message "stuff." Sent fromsouthchicago a "PM." So far, the way this site works is brilliant. Far cry from back in the 1980s when LA City only had a central a-frame and my staff of researchers at Planning and Research Division were using their own computers for police work . . . thanks . . .
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Onion or anyone, how do I get in contact with "fromsouthchicago?" Dick
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Prettyboy, Onion and changedagain: First, thanks for the replies and concerns. I hope this lump-summed attempt at clarity for both my past and current situations puts it to some ease. I mostly remember Ric and Marti as good kids hardly any better or worse than I was at that age, but smarter than me. My door was always open for them, but you know better than I the forces that were daily working
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that little red flag, that's another story. George was an LASO Captain, aid and speechwriter for then Sheriff Pitches when I first met him. I was involved with him in an internal affairs ongoing investigation where he ended up taking over command of the Sheriff's Malabo station and discipline of its captain and a number deputies involved in ongoing prostitution on duty. I think he later
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Prettyboy, Puddington, Reepicheep: I'm not sure I can keep up with all this, or should, or that I might escape the ire from an unintended slur on someone, but it appears to me that faith in one thing can't overcome faith in a contrary other. That is, those still having faith in this "living church" and its minions, can't be convinced it's false without some conver
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