Hello to Everyone that reads this thread, My name is Eric Frank McDonough Grace. I was one of the first people that started this conversation thread with Jos and Nagesh in 2008 as well as one on Gaia in 2007. I got in touch with Stace and Brie in August of 2017 when a friend of mine shared a post Stace had made on their new website (which is mentioned above in an earlier thread). As I read
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Hello, Many years ago I posted on this group about my experiences with Daniel who now goes by Stace. I have been in touch with Stace (and Brie)over the last two years and we have repaired a lot from what happened in the past. He has acknowledged and sought to make amends for the ways he was hurtful with me in the past and kicked me out of the community. He’s on the road of recovery for his n
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Hi everyone, I was just in touch with Gloria and I was able to get some clarity on the situation. The meeting on Wednesday is just for people to discuss the board dissolution, it should not be long. It is not set up for a larger group gathering to discuss and process things, but rather serving as a replacement for sending an email about the changes legally for those that have recently involve
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Dear readers, past EBE/Theohumanity participants, and recent EBE/Theohumanity participants, I send a warm hello to you. Since hearint the news of the dissolution of Theohumanity, I feel a desire to see a gathering as well as a group accessible for people to share experiences, heal, connect, and repair relationships. I understand that there is no present leadership within the EBE/Theohumanity c
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Dear readers and members, I want to apologize to Bill, Gloria, and Allen, I posted the letter from the Theohumanity Board without considering the impact of having their personal email addresses in the post. I had misunderstood the context of this letter, thinking that this letter was public domain and inviting correspondence from all individuals to express grievances and claims from abuse with
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Dear Past EBE/Theohumanity members, "Unwinding" has shared some of this already, and this info was confirmed by another past member of EBE/Theohumanity, so I will keep it brief, there has been a shift around Theohumanity and the cultic abuse cycle. I've pasted a letter from the Board of Theohumanity, you can contact any of these individuals via their email address about more inf
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Hi Sionnansinn, It's been a while since I checked this forum. I appreciate your post and hearing your past experience with Daniel and others involved with him at the time. You may have read my past with him and how I knew Dave and others back in 97/98. I still know many people that have left, only see those still in around Ashland in passing, which I feel sad about sometimes, relieved oth
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Hi Everyone, I want to refer you to some other resources for different perspectives on Daniel, EBE, and the authors experience of both. I think there are some common threads among them, and a lot of clarity in several spots. I find myself these days not thinking that much about Daniel or EBE, other than when I see someone around town that is still involved. So there is really no crusade I need
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Hi Everyone, I want you to know that I will no longer be posting much unless specifically written to. I have had some healing around my own past with my father, authority in general, and Daniel and I no longer feel the need to process in a public sphere around this. This is not to say that I condone what Daniel has done, or the destructive aspects of EBE. I just find myself no longer focusing
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Hi Everyone, I have been praying a lot over the last months, that the people in EBE and those out of EBE could come to some reconciliation. That the divisiveness would end. That the narcissism and borderline energy that comes through and within EBE as an organization would heal. May that be so. I have met with many of the people that have left, its been very healing. New people have left, f
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I just came across this today and it was like listening to Daniel speaking about EBE but without the junk. Tej Steiner developed Heart Circles after working with Daniel. I believe this is what his synthesis is of his work with Daniel. He and Daniel had a conflict and he left. Christian who is doing the talk here I believe studied with Tej. Eric
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Hi Everyone, As for action, I am pretty much still caught up in my own personality delinquencies so to put a lot of energy into a website or focus on putting out there more things about Daniel is far from my desire. I honesty don't want his negativity coming my way. What I've seen and felt him do psychically with folks is something I don't want to mess with and I don't know
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Rob this is just viscious. Regardless of what a person may be trying to get another to see or experience in their healing, to do this is downright cruel. Its unvulnerably childish saying, you hurt me by leaving my gang and I will never forgive you for it, all wrapped with the It's because I love you crap mixed with condescension of 'one who sees all and knows all of one's lifetimes
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Hi Melissa, I can understand how honesty and bluntness could be both blessing and challenging for you and those around you. I was hearing how a friend of mine who is italian (like Daniel is) is just direct like this (so is Daniel). Its a beautiful thing to find in our culture. From the midwest I didn't find that so much it was more important to be good, polite, and conservative. It
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I really feel your passion and boldness here Melissa. Thank you for it. I pray that you and your son's relationship finds its way to a place where you both feel good with it. I'm taking in your words and strength. Thank you. I still feel a lot of self-doubt and criticalness. I can only trust with time this will lessen and work itself out. I'll keep you all posted. Eric
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Hi Melissa and Jos, I don't get to my email much these days. So this is partly why I haven't responded. The other reason is I worry that writing here will do no good for me. I may be wrong. I wrote earlier some other things that were moderated out. I think it was due to putting contact info in which is a no-no in the forum venue I think I understand why. I wrote my story with Da
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Hi, I am sorry to hear that your son has chosen this way of working out some of his hurts with you. So much is missed out on when past hurts are not worked out in person, face to face, over time rather than cutting off. I know first hand.
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Here's an excerpt I from the newsletter cited above: “What qualities might characterize the leaders of authentic communities? Here's a partial list, in no particular order: (1) Zero interest in (and zero support of) cultism and its payoffs; (2) No ambition to be the leader; (3) A deep and abiding capacity for being-centered relatedness, as shown by consistently demonstrated integrit
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A few things to pass on. I found a great article by Robert Masters about cults and creating authentic community at http://www.robertmasters.com/newsletter/October2007.pdf I've also added to my original posting on my gaia page here: http://pods.gaia.com/realcontact/discussions/view/158767#158767 and Jos I experience your writing as very fervorent, with a lot of cyncism. Were you hurt in s
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Hi Rob, O., and Jos... Yeah, Rob, I really agree... the momentum and focus is really valuable. The focus brings so much up that can be held. And how you say the being guided in an imagery of things. I too was just in it for the work and healing... really cuz I felt so fucked up and needed some help way before I met Daniel. Then I was in a world that actually served to cover up a lot of that -
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Hi Rob and Jos, I know both of you already outside of this forum but I wanted to share my felt reality at this point from my time with Daniel and the ESH/EBE community, which was considerable. First off I will say, I love Daniel, Mark, Ilene, Hiedi, Jillian, Christian, Werner, Elke and so many others that are involved with it still. I miss the richness we shared at times. I do not see them
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