QuoteRswintersWow, I have been doing a lot of thinking about finding out Klemmer has chosen not to cooperate with the Better Business Bureau and giving them requested basic company information to be able to allow BBB to evaluate the company for the public protection that this agency provides. This alone says more than I have been stating in my many posts about how destructive Klemmer seminars
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QuoteajinajanQuoteRswintersThe drama in my life that I have been sharing as a result of my involvement in Klemmer is way more common than it appears from lack of publicity on the negative aspects of Klemmers influence on some peoples lives. Believe me it exists in every seminar that takes place in Klemmer. The biggest difference is how Klemmer has damage control in place that greatly minimi
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QuoteJescopThe best analogy for participating in Relationship 123 is Going to an Excurciatly Bad, Ill conceived, Unrated, Poorly Produced with Bad Acting Movie. You sit in the dark theater thinking/hoping/praying it will get better and if there will ever be a point to this nonsense. Unfortunately after 2 hours it doesn't and there isn't. You feel embarrassed, bilked and frustrated that
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QuoteRswintersThe drama in my life that I have been sharing as a result of my involvement in Klemmer is way more common than it appears from lack of publicity on the negative aspects of Klemmers influence on some peoples lives. Believe me it exists in every seminar that takes place in Klemmer. The biggest difference is how Klemmer has damage control in place that greatly minimizes the publi
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QuoteJescopI participated in this Relationship123 class. Here is the True 411: The husband and wife team have no formal qualifications to offer advise to anyone. He's a failed gas station owner who acquired a computer degree late in life and she a terminated corp. event planner. Both are divorced. The meeting is mismanaged, unprofessional and intellectually insulting to the participants. The
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The only thing I could find about " Klemmer and Associates " were what looked like some very short articles in some newspapers - that advertised public courses Klemmer was going to be having, so not real objective reporting there. Has anyone else found out more about them? And how are they related to this Wilhite guy from the first post in this thread?
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Quotejoe6Landmark made a motion for summary judgement, and it looks like the judge granted final judgement in favor of Landmark. The text of the judgement would be interesting reading, but I don't see it on the case page. Has anyone seen any press articles about the ending of this case? From the top of their web page, it looks like there was some sort of html coding error at the top
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QuoteRswintersI have been reading alot of postings from DiverGuy. Its amazing how he can't see how he is showing up with what he is addressing in others. Finally coming to my senses after destroying my life with applying Klemmer to my life. As I remove the cloud of Klemmerize from my mind. It is so apparent the relational destructiveness that gets enmeshed in a person who embraces Kl
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According to the Internet Movie Database, the budget for the film was $300,000 - wonder where the money came from, and exactly what is EAGLE ISLAND PRODUCTIONS ???
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QuoteajinajanThe Philadephia Inquirer Moving beyond prison system By David Parrish March 23, 2007 I bet the Riverfront State Prison, in Camden has not yet been informed of the controversial history associated with the "transformational approach" used by "Impact Project", with permission from Landmark Education ? Read the article, listen to the " loaded langua
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The Philadephia Inquirer Moving beyond prison system By David Parrish March 23, 2007 I bet the Riverfront State Prison, in Camden has not yet been informed of the controversial history associated with the "transformational approach" used by "Impact Project", with permission from Landmark Education ? Read the article, listen to the " loaded language " tha
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What's Werner Erhard been up to lately ? Well, according to this blog post, having dinner with Warren Bennis (took EST in 1979 and consulted to Werner Erhard and Associates in the 1980s), Gonneke Spits (long time associate of Werner Erhard and a prior executive in Erhard Seminars Training), and Steven Zaffron (Landmark Forum leader, CEO of " Landmark Education Business Development &q
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From the hompage, of Werner Erhard, claimed to be set up by "Friends of Werner Erhard", but originally started with copied material from the Landmark Education main page: QuoteThe Mahatma Gandhi International Foundation honored Werner Erhard with the Mahatma Gandhi Humanitarian Award, citing “…your notable effort to end the starvation and hunger suffered by millions throughout th
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Thursday, 03/15/07 Web libel cases increasing locally Posting says man misbehaved at parties By CHRISTIAN BOTTORFF Staff Writer QuoteLandmark Education, which describes itself as "a leader and innovator in the field of training and development," sued Rick Ross over statements on his Web site challenging the organization's legitimacy, and his refusal to post Landmark'
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Judge Approves Disclosure of Company's Efforts to Discredit Blogger-Critic Federal judge rejects executive seminar company NXIVM's privilege bid in dispute with anti-cult blogger Rick A. Ross New York Law Journal/March 5, 2007 By Anthony Lin NICE!
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QuoteHopeYippee!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad you're back. Sweet!
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Quoteanon-aclu-memberThis case has moved jurisdictions at the request of Landmark Education Corporation. It was Oklahoma County No. CJ-2006-5200. It is now Tulsa County No. CJ-2007-818. The above links allow the real-time tracking of status through The Oklahoma State Courts Network. Sure looks that way, new judge, and everything gets refiled...
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QuoteHopeRegarding the visitor's comments, if a participant questioned anything, or tried to explain their situation and how Landmark "technology" could help or hinder, the participant was told they were either running a racket or not being coachable. If the participant "didn't get it" (the message of Landmark), then they were, again, running a racket, not being co
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Not sure if these links were already presented in this thread: Tony Robbins - A first hand, critical view of how the Tony Robbins Organization performs and operates William T. Jarvis, Ph.D. National Council Against Health Fraud James Randi Educational Foundation
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Caught In The Crossfire Who Is To Blame For A Wife's Death And A Judge's Shooting? Feb. 24, 2007 48 HOURS MYSTERY QuoteCharla eventually gave up acting and moved back to Reno. When she started dating Darren Mack, they seemed a perfect match. Friends say they also shared an interest in a self-awareness training group called Landmark Education. "He was really into s
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QuoteObi-WanThe Hoffman Process is amazing! Extremely valuable and not a cult Your husband and yourself should go if you're able. Anybody who has gone will tell you it's like 7 years of therapy in a week. There have been independed studies of it done by Harvard and UC Berkeley which confirm its effectiveness. It's hard work and if you were to hear about some of the pa
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QuoteThe Anticulthttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/joan-z-shore/the-secret-its-out-it_b_41821.html QuoteThe Secret? It's Out, It's Old, and It's Obvious Joan Z. Shore 02.21.2007 What has seized America? Not a new guru, not a new sect, but a little group of people who claim to have discovered, and are now promulgating, the Secret of the Ages. This is no small claim. An
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QuoteThe Real DealQuoteThere has been much uninformed conjecture and deliberate misrepresentations about Royal Way posted on this forum. To dispel at least some of this false information, I submit the following: 8. At no Royal Way retreat has any participant ever disrobed, been asked to disrobe or anything of that nature. This really deserves exposure. While I was a member in Royal Way a
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QuoteajinajanI have reason to believe from a reliable source that the Department of Labor would like to talk to individuals who have present/past experience volunteering at Landmark Education in any capacity. The contact person at the United States Department of Labor is: Rebecca Clark, United States Department of Labor, Wage and Hour Division clark.re&
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Looks like a youtube user called "livealifeyoulove" ( a phrase instantly recognizable to some as Landmark Education jargon, which could some journalists have compared to Robert Lifton's "loaded language") has begun to post some intriguing videos on youtube. Perhaps an attempt to counteract those that were uploaded by user cirne.com ? It will be interesting to see
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QuoteExcaliburQuoteajinajanCmon 48 Hours/60 Minutes/Dateline, etc... If this controversial group is newsworthy enough for major news stories in 3 other countries ... That's a very good point Ajinajan. In fact last year I wrote to several national TV shows such as 48 Hours, 20/20, 60 Minutes and Dateline NBC but in all cases I received the same mumbo jumbo thank you for your letter, etc. e
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QuoteJack Oskar LarmI wonder when I can get the full box set (France, Sweden, Holland, etc)? Boxed set, intriguing idea... And eventually, the United States??? Cmon 48 Hours/60 Minutes/Dateline, etc... If this controversial group is newsworthy enough for major news stories in 3 other countries ...
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QuoteelenaQuote * Mind Dynamics (1968, Alexander Everett from Silva Mind Control) * Leadership Dynamics (1970, William Penn Patrick) * est (1971, Werner Erhard from Mind Dynamics, Esalen and Scientology) I'd add that Alexander Everett was a school teacher who was employed by the Unity Schools of Christianity from whence some of the hypnotic "processes" came along w
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This looks interesting... QuoteDutch TV programma Zembla did a critcal episode on Landmark and CSA Europe. Broadcast date 18 februari 2007 =1154&tx_ttnews=1303&cHash=335c775237 ( short ) It shows that both of these organizations know some participants have gone psychotic and did little or nothing to help them. This is not the French program into Landmark re
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QuoteON2 LFQuoteWhy oh why did I not simply GOOGLE for more information before forking up the money for the dubious coursework? If only I had done some independent research, instead of simply relying on the opinion of the individual who had promoted the course to me in the first place... Sigh, and that is precisely why word-of-mouth-advertising works for them - not enough people take the time to
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