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16 years ago
JackSF
Wow. Silva Mind Control. This takes me back... corboy -- Dunno if you have already satisfied your interest in Silva, but it is a basic course in self-hypnosis along with various applications like awakening without an alarm clock. You learn some simple techiques for relaxing into a mild trance ("going to level") and from there do ESP exercises like sensing the health of a stranger.
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16 years ago
JackSF
>i understand that the young peoples forum >is basically the same as the forum for adults. > >imagine those children are dropped to their >knees in terror and then taken to histerical >laughter as they are the ones doing the terror. Patrick is refering to what used to be called the "Fear Process" in est. I don't remember what they
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16 years ago
JackSF
During my est phase I took a friend to a guest seminar and afterwards he said something I hadn't heard before. He said he didn't want to sign up for est because "I don't trust anything that spreads like a virus." This was in the late seventies before 'meme' or 'thought virus' had entered the public discourse. I tucked that one away in my mind an
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16 years ago
JackSF
The most obvious hypnotic technique I notice being used at Landmark is the vague, confusing language that causes the mind to slip its clutch and spin freely for several seconds, leaving the listener in a mild trance state. My all-time favorite example is from a Werner tape in which he talked about "taking a stand that you are the stand you take" or "merely living in the concept
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16 years ago
JackSF
gc -- More great stuff! Thanks for the SELP run-down. You wouldn't happen to remember if there were an opportunity to leave in the first SELP session? (For those who haven't attended LM programs there is usually an "opportunity to leave" the program with a full refund a few hours into the first session. Not always though. At the Advanced Course, this opporunity was inten
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16 years ago
JackSF
Thanksgiving is winding down and I thought I'd type a few notes about what I like about Landmark. Patrick asked and others must be wondering. Mainly I like being in a community of people who are willing to be open, take risks, try new ideas and focus on making differences in their lives and in the world. And specifically I like what I have seen in the people who come to Landmark. Grant
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16 years ago
JackSF
gc, I love hearing your inside view on this stuff! QuoteThey are also the same people who constantly scan the net for information like you see posted here, and run back to report on it. Hmm...it wouldn't be hard for Landmark to figure out who I am from JackSF, not to mention the Yahoo group where I've been very open about my concerns about the cult and cult-like aspects of Land
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16 years ago
JackSF
elena -- Yes, I know Dick Sutphen's page from way back. It's great. I'm a big fan of subliminal advertising and Sutphen is one of the few people who'll talk about it. As to what other Landmark techniques I noticed -- not as many as I would like! To tell the truth, I went under pretty dam* fast and they got to me. I was horrified and tickled. I thought I had had my shots
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16 years ago
JackSF
Hi Wolfy! Frankly I'm glad you're here and I would like it if the others would ease up on you a bit. I sympathize. I'm the lone wolf on a Yahoo Landmark group, taking a lot of flak, and maybe I'll even be kicked out or be hassled so much I'll lose interest. I'm not trying to be kicked out, but there is a human group dynamic whereby those who don't fit i
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16 years ago
JackSF
Excuse the double-post, but here's the manipulation I disliked the most from my est days. It lives on in Landmark but not so virulently (or so it seems so far). It took me years to catch on to it when I was younger. psychologizing "ad hominem" -- In the "ad hominem" one attacks the character of the person making an argument, rather than the argument itself. In
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16 years ago
JackSF
elena -- Thanks for the reposting. I expect a strong focus on guests but I'm hoping it won't be "100%". Thought that may be the case. I remember that the est seminars after the Training had almost no content and were mostly about guests. In the Forum and the Advanced Course I was pleased to notice that the "enrollment conversation" homework didn't have to
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16 years ago
JackSF
I'm fascinated by Guy's posts about hypnosis and trance techniques used in Landmark programs. I would love to hear more specifics about this and more general manipulations. I've noticed a fair number myself. When a forum leader says "this is just ONE WAY ONLY of looking at things, it is NOT THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH" he is using a disarming technique so that you will drop yo
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16 years ago
JackSF
Wow. Great job, gc4062. I just took the Advanced Course a couple weeks ago and you nailed it pretty well. Plus I like the matter-of-fact tone of your posting. I'm an old est graduate (1977-1983) who burned out on the guest game. I returned to Landmark on good word of mouth from friends and curiousity. Boy, they can still do the job! At times I was practically rolling in the aisles fr
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