kdag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...or in a nutshell: > Sex is every bit as empty and meaningless as > everything else,and so is love. This is just so true.
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They basically encourage sleeping around as a sense of entitlement. I certainly noticed the disconnect. It was very surreal to experience along with everything else. As his work has facilitated Landmark they are literally now all in together in this extremely unhealthy environment. Their national work conference with over 400 attendees was this last week. For the first time ever, and with the
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Thanks kdag yes that’s what I thought. Wow the fact they said you hit the “jackpot” line explains it all really... I can see how they encourage open marriages and sex is just an outlet.
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Hello again, I know this is a little risqué but I can not find any information on what the landmark concepts of love and sex are and if they are intertwined. Prior to my ex partner participating in Landmark we had a very mutually satisfying sex life. After my ex started participating in landmark though everything changed. He stopped initiating sex and became rather selfish. It was like th
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Geez they really turn everything around don’t they? I don’t know how it promotes conscious living when the application of it seems the total opposite. I did notice my ex making impulse based decisions then scrambling for a bit seemingly struggling between the two worlds. To me discarding rational and critical thinking and previous life experience, plus discarding other people’s feelings, inte
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Thanks GloriaG, I still have my moments and am in counselling with an accredited psychologist which helps significantly. The information and support I gained from here has made me realise I can’t help him and that I need to protect myself. My psych is able to help me with the psychogical abuse ie the gaslighting and abandonment and deciphering things that happened, so the two have worked very
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Thanks Kdag, I’m getting there - I still have my moments but at least now I can pull them in. Ironically his message last week has seemed to help me move on - it made me realise how far gone he is. All the support on here plus my friends who have some understanding themselves have made me realise I can’t do a thing about it. He has no ability to rationalise anymore and nor does he want t
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I don’t see how he will get out. Maybe he won’t, maybe he is using it to fill a hole he couldn’t fill. Maybe the delusion and fake sense of fulfilment will satisfy his need to belong and feel revered when in reality it is destroying his inner soul. It is so sad. I hope for his sake and his children’s sake, he finds his way out at some point. The fact that he has had Landmark facilitated across t
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It is truly insidious. I constantly get disgusted at the nature of this organisation and what it does to people. Well done you kdag (Corboy,GloriaG et al)for taking the no doubt difficult road to recovery and for turning into a positive by helping others. Your bravery is commendable. I am very lucky to have supportive peollr around me whom I have kept informed of what’s going on and have
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Thank you very much kdag. Yes he is blaming me for everything by the looks of things. I am very grateful for the advice from both you and Corboy as your insight, knowledge and bravery help me make sense of a non-sensicle and psychologically abusive situation. Your support has definitely helped make me stronger.
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Ps A “racket” is essentially a cost benefits analysis for relationships really isn’t it? I had concluded from the reading I had done this is what had happened and then he completed me. I didn’t fit in with the design anymore.
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I’d say there would be quite a few who have been but like he needed someone to actually point it out - hopefully this thread may help them too. If he does come back Corboy I’ll let you know but I highly doubt he will. Coincidentally last night I received a message from him after five weeks of silence saying I had to “take control of my own life and stop blaming others for who and where I am”.
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Thanks for the links Corboy. This article is brilliant.
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here is one reason why ghosting is such a terrible > thing to do. > > It usually leads the victim to dive into his > (often her) deepest insecurities. > > As in, where was I at fault? What did I do wrong? Hello Corboy, yes it is exactly what I have done. It has been crazy making to say the
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GloriaG Wrote: > > > > In support of Throughmyeyes, all I can add is that > it is during the SELP part of the course that they > really get into a person's psyche to control them. > They plant seeds of that in the Advanced Course > and then ratchet up the pressure at the start of > SELP by arranging weekly (? might have been more > than weekly) phone
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Thanks Corboy, I don't want to try to change him as I know I can't - not until he has disengaged. I think I was asking for my own well being.
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Hello again kdag, I've just had a bit of an epiphany and things have all fallen into place. I've realised me ex is comoletly and utterly indoctrinated. The last part of his SELP course is in November. Once he becomes removed from it, is there anything I should be aware of?
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Hello kdag, I too would love to see this organisation shut down. It is pure evil.
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I have to keep reading these to remind myself I didn't do anything wrong.
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Thanks rrmoderator for the very informative albeit frightening link. It is mind boggling to think people fall for this. They must be either very lost or narcissistic - and yet once they do the course they become both with the added sociopathic traits and mental disharmony. All on the name of self/expression from n abusive used car sales man! Lost for words really. Thank you for establishing
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Thanks Corboy, I do keep playing different scenarios around on my head about what I must have done wrong but its getting better thanks to everyone here. Another tricky thing is when people ask me what happened and I say "oh he joined a cult" they look at me like What!! People don't understand how evil these things are. It's all starting to make more sense to me tho
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Hello goneinawhistle, Yes,that is quite worrisome that only yesterday that article was published. As far as I am concerned it is irresponsible of those in the public arena who are not formally qualified in psychology/psychiatry/counselling or any other therapeutically accredited/certified recognised related industry to be sprouting the accolades of a dangerous and damaging mind altering course
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Thanks Corboy, I really appreciated your advice as much as it does hurt. I will look after myself though and if I ever did hear anything, I would suggest he seeks alternative help. I had suggested a conventional therapist before which I think was dismissed. Thank you again. It really has helped. Kind regards.
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Is there anything anyone can do to help him? I know he told friends of his that I can be mean but that was him taking my sentences completely out of context. If I was mean we wouldn't have been friends for 30 years... He has to travel this journey alone doesn't he? It is so sad.
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Oh my gosh, thanks Corboy that is exactly what he has done hasn't he? I didn't even think of it from that perspective but you are right. He completed me and then ghosted me! Yes we had been friends since we were 12 years old and I have found the disrespect and complete disregard for the longevity of our friendship let alone our 18 month renationship, really difficult to comprehend.
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It is alarming to see how they are perceived to be deep thinkers, kind and caring to everyone else, yet are cold and callous to those who love them and genuinely have their best interests at heart. I know when he was made to do his three and five year goal plans, they predominately featured around his work, kids and himself. I was not included. I only found this out after bit I noticed the ch
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Hello kdag Thank you so very much for your response. I have been doing as much reading as I can to try to undestand how this happened. It is so hard to fathom losing someone this way. I would agree with your calculating and manipulative statements but because they aee so out of character I've been so confused. LE has essentially altered his persona but asbyou say he is foming access
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I was hoping someone might be able to please help explain this Landmark Forum concept. My partner deemed that he was complete with me- no regrets, no unfinished business. He called off our 18 mon relationship and 30 year friendship after attending the Landmark Forum with a phone call. He won't answer my phone calls, respond to emails or text messages. He did take down my photos f
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Thanks crback22. It is beyond sad. These organisations don't encourage people to grow. Instead they facilitate behaviours that are bit conducive to the fundamentals of humanity. ie compassion, empathy, openneness, kindness and honesty - in the true meaning of the form. It saddens me to think a 30 year history can be disposed of as I'm not a perfect 10. The power of the LGATs is incr
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Thank you for your post. I am going through the exact thing now and I am devasted. I miss my friend terribly. It is so very hard to watch. Ad the rest of our close friends live interstate, I am the only one who can see what is happening to him. I am worried that in time he will see the pain his actions have caused snd everything will come crashing down.
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