If they fit boontahoe's profile...apologists. They say "moderate," but at least from what I've seen, they have an agenda for their LGAT or a new one they've just formed. If not...they're here to share information and provide support or recover.
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That would be a violation of her privacy, and although that's something she doesn't respect, it's something I do. If I didn't...well, I'da posted them a LONG time ago.
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MKP was allowed to set up a booth at a LASACT conference this year. My first response to seeing his handouts and description of the New Warrior weekend? QuoteDo you realise this is similar to Landmark Education? At that time, I didn't know how many LGATs existed. He denied knowing anything about LE or what an LGAT was (I said Large Group Awareness Training and when he said he'd nev
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it does take a moment, Blue, for replies to go through But it gets rid of the porn and the trolls. I can wait if that's the cause of taking a moment.
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You guys don't need to be reviewed by an outside board of psychologists. You're like everyone else, if you need a professional to talk to, you do the healthy thing and chose a good provider. You don't look for the packaged miracles or magic beans. You use your support network, online and offline, and take care of yourself. I love all of you here for the right reasons.
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Quotequestion lady Isn't that kind of like going to a domestic violence surivors support forum and telling the survivors that what they really need is to have the crap beat out of them? It is very similar.
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and lastly, did you read the title of this website? "The Rick A. Ross Institute for destructive cults, controversial groups and movements." This really isn't a place for a pro-LGAT movement. It's like walking into a Muslim temple assuming you can find some people willing to convert to Christinaity.
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This blantant oversimplification of life...and lack of understanding that most of the active posters here are in recovery from LGATs, coupled with your (not) surprising assertation that a group of outside psychologist would conclude we need "help." Boon, we've all heard this argument before. It's the same argument any pro-LGAT ringer showing up on this board has. Whoeve
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I also thank you profusely!
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Quoteboonetahoe Unfortunately, I can't go into the data, method, etc. without exposing my identity (and I'd rather not do that given the topic, ie. Impact.) Let's just say that my approach was considerably more scientific and with a much larger base of respondants than yours. Yes you can. The identities of the people on this forum remain private. You can describe the collection
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QuoteThe_HoudiniOk, now you can't even identify a "." at the end of a sentence. You no longer amuse me. Enjoy your war on everything your master, rick ross, deems a cult. I hope your promotion to moderator comes soon, it will be a hell of an accomplishment for one hell of a guy, you truely diserve it. Fool, you can't even spell. And I don't even know Rick. Th
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QuoteThe_Houdini"LGAT" grad? I told you what I think about those, but I apologize, I assumed you could read and comprehend what I wrote. I said I don't like those things. In my opinion, they're retarded, as I wrote before "My impression was that this group is comprised of middle aged men who have not balls or social skills". BUT, just because it&#
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QuoteThe_Houdini"A board based on more research than you can possibly comprehend" Holy crap... I'll be right back before I piss myself....stay there..LOLOLOLOL Ok, you still there? Good. First, this is NOT research. I work in a research lab, and not the pseudo-science kind, I actually made it thru graduate school in a ligitimate field of science. Let me guess: Qua
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QuoteThe_HoudiniHi again, it's me the "victim basher". Since you commented that the poor crackhead that killed himself is a victim, logic would also deem him as the perpetrator since the victim and abuser in a suicide event are on in the same. If you really believe the NWTA thing this guy went to drove him to suicide and not his substance abuse, you really have a few scre
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Landmark Education and EST members have always been in denial about their Scientologist roots, the technology is a direct product of "squirrels" who left Scientology. Personally, what CoS does, this is not my concern. I'm not interested in matters of religion. Point blank. The denial of being a non-religious derivative of Scientology is disturbing. Especially an ogani
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QuoteiscarioteYou seem to know as little about Christ as you do about Mohan. You are talking out of your rear Toby. What do you know about truth? Surely you are aware that not only the Messiah was crucified? to be crucified means to be nailed/tied to a cross and left on it to die, (in this case metaphorically speaking) by the ignorant fascist romans, (in this case you lot). So much sland
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The chances of Werner getting a Nobel Peace Prize are about as slim as me becoming a Center Manager for Landmark Education...as slim as Dubya preaching the benefits of same-sex marriage. I think it's laughable someone would even make that statement with Erhard and Nobel in the same sentence.
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PRE-TEST VIDEO- Vivid personality. Human. This person looks ALIVE. DAY 2 - No personality. Dude is getting vague, incoherent, sounds EXACTLY like everyone who has done day 2. Robotlike. Looks like he got beat the f-ck up. Near the end, losing coherency, sounds like he's trying to convince himself. DAY 3 - Beaten into submission. Looks like a hostage video, sounds like one. Looks REALLY
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or in this case it would be "victim BASHING," to use another apt term.
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QuoteThe_Houdini Yea, must be because he went on their wacky adventure weeks earlier, couldn't have been because he was a f'n CRACKHEAD. Chemical dependency is a serious issue...maginalising someone or labeling them as "a f'n CRACKHEAD," doesn't add anything to the discussion. It's called "victim-blaming," much in a way calling someon
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Quoteboonetahoe Boonetahoe out. You were out before you hit the canvas, "Bro."
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Quoteboonetahoe Bro, I didn't ask you if you wanted me to prove it to you. I asked if you were open to changing your views if I demonstrated that I'd done my homework. You didn't answer that question and I have no desire to get into a pointless argument with someone whose mind's made up. I'm not your "Bro." Please don't assume. I will be open
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Quotecultedu99I have attended a New Warrior Weekend a few years back, and it was life changing for me. I am sad that anyone has suffered from any of the processes associated with the Mankind Project. However, I would invite the critics to look at themselves in the mirror and ask yourself "What was your part in the entire process" It is amazing to me all the energy spent on a
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Quote If I gave you an impressive bibliography of the books and studies I've read, would you then be open to the possibility that you may be off-base in generally rejecting the LGAT model? I'm taking you up on your offer. If you were being inauthentic or lying, say so. But don't cop out by saying you don't see the point after you offered. I may see something I don't
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Quoteboonetahoe I'm comfortable with my own level of research into psychology and heuristics (and the education/study I've conducted) and I'm comfortable with the level of psychological oversight into the LGAT with which I'm associated. I rather doubt that a debate with you regarding my study or qualifications will yield much in the way of mutual enlightenment (regardless o
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QuoteboonetahoeQuoteThose who do not learn from history, and LGATs have a really THICK history in a small time, are doomed to repeat it. But unless you address the even rudimentay Psych 101 stuff a high-schooler could do, you haven't realluy added much to the discussion. I don't think we have a thread about discussing bulletin boards as a medium, but I can always as Rick. I
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QuoteboonetahoeQuoteI can't. You're still in sales/enrollment mode. It's a neat thing I see LGAT people doing, coming under the auspices of saying "yeah, it's bad, I know, but XYZ happens and you can't get that anywhere else." I can tell you something you don't know you don't know. The human brain isn't fully formed to be able to make a
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I don't know how old you are. I was indicating that some people can't get the information as you said it could be obtained due to biological approaches. The rest, you didn't address. I have vitrol for learned ignorance or stubborned ignorance in the face of a large body of information. The fact that you're 38 makes no excuse for the fact that you can read but refuse to a
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In Syndey, they use the Mother Theresa example like this (my ex liked to practice the ILP stuff on me. Jesus wept.): "Well, I know you say LE and Werner have some dirt on them. Did you know Mother Theresa does as well? Here's the website. See? No one is without fault, everyone has dirt on them, but it doesn't stop people from getting something out of church...so why would di
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QuoteboonetahoeQuoteVic-LucYou noticed how quickly boonetahoe bolted and said thanks for the chat when the pro-LE argument was advanced, and the logic didn't hold up? Haven't bolted yet. Still here. By the way, I've never experienced LE. In response to MartinH, I have high confidence that long-lasting results can come out of the learning environs of the LGAT. In my mind,
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