QuoteVic-LucAnyone take these quack cult Landmark Education / Forum classes with Gaibrielle Stockdale leading? I'm curious. She is an Advanced Course Manager, and a Self-Expression & Leadership Program Manager. Possibly in San Francisco, London, and Sydney
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QuotenettieI think the communication course leaders are unpaid assistants. Right? I know that the SELP leaders were unpaid and also the seminar leaders. They were really used by landmark. All under the pretense thet it was good for their progress. Am I right in this assumption that they are unpaid assistants Sonnie_dee? Gaibrielle Stockdale is a paid staff member, 41K a year.
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QuotenettieQuoteVic-LucAnyone take these quack cult Landmark Education / Forum classes with Gaibrielle Stockdale leading? I'm curious. Hi V-L - where was this? I don't know that name. What course did she lead? London or Sydney, Australia. Communications course under the wing of Jorn or Paul Berry.
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Anyone take these quack cult Landmark Education / Forum classes with Gaibrielle Stockdale leading? I'm curious.
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QuotecurledJust wanted to share a letter I received from a fellow MIll 3 follower in arguement about how I think this is all BS! His many uses of "possiblity and integrity" What a joke! Your too much, You do realize that these course have even been attended by the likes of Oprah and Dr. Phil and over 2.5 million others. Your research is slanted and I am not here to convince y
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Again, what people don't get is that Australia has scant therapists, counselors, and psychologists. The "governing board for psychology" if you can even call it that, because it's a pretty buck-ass system that looks like it was cobbled together for PR...doesn't do much. I could show up in OZ, put up a shingle, conduct therapy, and no one would bother me. SO...
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QuoteskepticI just connected two more dots I hadn't connected these past several years. It always seems so *nice* that part of an lgat program is to send out "participants" to reconcile with estranged family/friends. While reading this piece I now understand WHY: to recruit more people. Of course. I mean, when you've reconnected with and regrained trust of people from whom
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Again, what you guys don't get is that Australia has scant therapists, counselors, and psychologists. The "governing board for psychology" if you can even call it that, because it's a pretty buck-ass system that looks like it was cobbled together for PR...doesn't do much. I could show up in OZ, put up a shingle, conduct therapy, and no one would bother me. SO...i
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CONGRATULATIONS BROTHA! QuoteZorroI'm happy to report that I landed a new and totally bad ass job today!!!!! I really pulled myself together these last few weeks and have made a serious and positive impact on my future. In the past few weeks I've literally had "Headhunters" calling me with job opportunities. It's been unreal how busy I've been with taking car
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QuotevlindenAh, the late night spirit of cruel self-analysis has descended upon me again . . . must be due to Nutrino's Freud-laden post earlier demanding we all take a big uncomfortable look inside our dank inner caves . . . I guess when I posted this thread I was thinking the same thing I'm still thinking, and I know my lesson lies here. In a way, my unwillingness to see parts
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QuotevlindenYour story about the man who committed suicide is what makes me shake myself out of my own head and really feel concern for my ex. But I know he just can't/won't hear me, so what can I do? I know he's fragile and I just hope to God he holds up through all of this. It's part of why I'm still talking to him at all. He was an adult, but he was just a confused k
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QuotevlindenHi Nettie, I know, I'm sure you're right. It was actually a very big deal for me to hear him say these things to me yesterday. After he got out of the Forum a few weeks ago, he displayed all the same signs that so many people have posted about here on this board. He was totally self centered, he seemed disconnected from me in a new way I'd never seen. And of course h
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Quotevlinden But next week he's going to take the Advanced Course, and it doesn't seem I can talk him out of it. That's where I lost my ex, essentially. LE was her own personal strength/endurance test. Good luck.
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Quotevlinden However, I am very tired and stressed out from everything I've been through, and as a therapist I think you could have a bit more understanding as to how your original comment to me would put me totally on the defensive. Vlinden, yeah you have been through a lot. You're forgetting...so have I. LE took someone really important away from me, a week after she finaliz
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Nutrino left for lashing out in a post and going off on a political tirade, and if memory serves correct, attacking my profession.
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QuotevlindenOkay, Vic, let's call a truce. I'll believe you're a therapist, and you believe I'm not a troll, and we'll move on. I just think you shouldn't call people names and scream at them in forums because they interpret something you said as an attack. Instead maybe consider why they would interpret it that way. Okay? Have a good night. Fine, just ask fo
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QuotevlindenVic Luc: I asked a question and she went on a tirade. No, you didn't ask a question. You made an inference that could have many negative assumptions attached to it, considering what this board is about, and how many trolls are indeed here. Then you went on to infer that people were PMing you about me, asking if you smell "a rat." I smell a rat, and it ain'
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QuotevlindenVic-Luc:It has more utility and efficacy than medication, and it takes work. That's where I lose people. They don't want to do the work. Oh, I just can't help myself. I have to ask . . . You say you're a therapist? A cognitive behavioral therapist? Do your posts about me, and in response to me, reflect the methodology you use with your clients? Perhaps ther
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Side note: I'd be fascinated if anyone took up the torch to see if there were noted personality changes in people after taking LE courses...pre-tes/post-test. It was done before, I think with est, before the myriad of LE legalese. Everyone in HS takes a form on the Myers-Briggs, which would mean the pre-test is already there, somewhere.
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QuoteelenaHow is it anyone was fooled by this idiot. Ellen "There's a sucker born every minute"
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QuoteskepticQuoteVic-Luc God, you are SUCH a drama TROLL! I bet you were in a wannabe hippy in college. Whoa! This, from someone who asks to be left alone and who opines that the *other* person is trolling for a fight? Hmmm. Odd. I asked a question and she went on a tirade. But whatever reality works for you, man. I have feelings too and I don't like being singled out as &quo
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QuoteThe Anticult I agree with some others who say that Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is helpful. It has more utility and efficacy than medication, and it takes work. That's where I lose people. They don't want to do the work.
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QuotevlindenActually, I take it back, I don't need to ask you for evidence because I know well enough that there is none. I've never done one thing on this board that could be considered trolling. So I think the best thing is for me to ignore you now and continue to appreciate all the GOOD that this board has to offer. Your problems are not mine, and the last thing I need in my life rig
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QuotevlindenYou might try counseling and leave your negative attitudes, wild acccusations, trolling, and assumptions at the door. There, you've accused me of trolling. At least you're starting to be honest now. Now tell me EXACTLY how I'm trolling, except for being offended by your attack on me which came out of nowhere and which has confused more people than just me. Yo, psyc
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QuotevlindenAnd another thing, Senor Luc, Let me be right up front and tell you that I don't appreciate your attack nor do I particularly need it in my life at the moment. Nor did I ask for your twisted psychological diagnosis (in fact, it reminds me Landmark's or Byron Katie's reversal of reality -- are you a disciple of hers??), so save that for your patients who pay you. I
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QuotevlindenWell they're only blurred in your head, Vic-Luc, not mine. Anyway, at the moment I just have a lot of time on my hands as I'm getting ready to leave the country I'm in, and this board has been very interesting to me. I honestly don't see the point of your attack. I do see, however, that one of the most insightful people to ever write on this board, Nutrino
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Vlinden, I hate to state what seems obvious, but you're sounding more and more, over time...like the types of people drawn to Landmark. The lines are getting blurred.
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QuotevlindenMust confess I do worry for the next generation. Many kids are so over supervised while growing up that they are robbed of opportunities for real adventures--fewer kids get safe, unsupervised play in vacant lots. So when they grow up, they will need adventures and be quite vulnerable to being sold fake ones. That is true, corboy. I know that some wilderness programs for tee
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Quotevlinden All of this has made me want to examine the different schools of analysis and therapy. Clearly any dissecting of the human psyche can be helpful or harmful -- maybe sometimes both at the same time. It seems that people with relatively minor issues of dysfunction or unhappiness could be helped by a trained therapist who can guide them through unraveling their thought processes in
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QuotevlindenAlso, Vic-Luc, are you a therapist of some kind? What are your thoughts on Transactional Analysis? Yes. Transactional Analysis? In a purist sense, Berne was asinine. "Curing" clients? Some general concepts are universal. Myself? Adherent to Client-Centered Therapy, mostly. Hard to fuck up that skill set. I use it in conjunction with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy wh
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