**URGENT** Hi everyone, I am a frequent poster on the Impact Trainings thread, a recovering LGAT victim and an ally in the fight against all LGATs. I am writing this because one of my best friends is a photojournalist and is very interested in doing a story on "how (insert any LGAT here) ruined your life." If an LGAT ruined your life, you would like a chance to be heard, and
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QuoteHopeful Soulthat awful song about singing in the wind. Ugh, I remember standing up to "engage" and saying that I was having a hard time at the training because I didn't trust my feelings, I only trusted my logic. Justin told me that there was a "possibility" that I didn't know the difference between my heart and mind and that we were about to d
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QuotePassionateOne of the reasons I stayed was out of sheer morbid curiosity to see what was next and what all he hype was about. Oh yeah, and to see what all the hype was about. I went to a introductory night with a friend. All the graduates were so excited and happy about it. During the training, I often thought back to the happy, excited graduates, thinking that if so many other people had suc
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QuotePassionateOne of the reasons I stayed was out of sheer morbid curiosity to see what was next and what all he hype was about. Yeah, that was definitely part of it. I hate to admit it, but Impact kind of has a "reality show effect". I hate reality shows, but sometimes I'll get stuck on one just because I'm so shocked by what's going on that I can't look
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Impact is one of many Large Group Awareness Trainings. Some others include Lifespring, EST, Klemmer, Quest (so. africa), and of course Landmark. They are all very similar, and use many of the same techniques of control, humiliation and delusional teachings. Since they are so similar, I thought that this was relevant. A journalist in France went undercover to a Landmark training with a hidden came
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OK, a disclaimer that applies to all of my posts, past and future: this thread is so big now, I can't remember what's been covered and what hasn't, so if it's already been talked about, let me know. QuotedamagedbyassociationMy wife was labeled Damaged Goods from Impact. She didn't like it, but at that point she was pretty much stuck with going along with the whole Imp
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Quotedamagedbyassociation My wife and I have discussed the impact of Impact quite a lot at this point (if you don't know or remember my story/background on this go to page 36). She has agreed that Impact was horrible, although at our first REAL counseling session with a REAL counselor, she was still touting all of the "good" that she got from Impact, which infuriated me
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QuoteexImpact Pee-Wee Pervert Butchy Bitch Mormon Messup Helicopter Hanna Daddy's Whipping Post 1-800 Puke a blank nametag Ice Queen Ridden Hard and Put Away Wet (trainers love to explain this one) Oldy Moldy Nobody's Home Loves Me Not WAAambulance Will Cry For Food (for the big girls) Hurt Me Leave Me Nobodies Little Girl Walking Dead Moby Dork (that one is for the m
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I apologize in advance for going off topic for a brief moment, however I believe truth, knowledge and education are valuable not just in exposing Impact, but priceless in application in everything in life. In other words, if I see something posted here that I think may be incorrect, I am inclined to point it out, discuss or research it, and then hopefully find the truth of the matter. QuoteHope
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So I was talking to my friend who went through the first 3 trainings at Impact, and they mentioned something about Summit (the 2nd training). My friend said that in Summit, everyone is given a degrading nickname. She said one person in her group was called: "Grandpa's Joy Toy". :shock: What are some of the nicknames from your summit groups? Does this nickname repla
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On Saturday, I was watching a Saturday Night Live rerun and this skit came on about "the Secret", and I HAD to share it:
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Ghost Dancer, I've been following your family's story the last month, and it just makes me so sick what is happening. to you My deepest sympathies go out to your family. I attended an LGAT in Utah, and I'm sure it's difficult to understand how a stupid seminar could change someone so drastically. However, as you can plainly see with your wife, they can, and they do it well.
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QuotefreeWow am I thankful for this website! Has anyone had experience with Discovery Training in Dallas, TX? As far as I can see they are an LGAT but probably not as intense as PSI or Landmark Education. I experienced severe Depression after going through it. I had alot going on in my life as far as living in a new city and adjusting to a job but I do believe Discovery played a significant p
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QuotePassionateWas fatherof3 a reincarnation of Otter? No, he wasn't.
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QuotePassionateI do stand by my post that morals are relative. Here's a good article that describes morality and the philosophy of them: In the introduction if the wikipedia article about moral relativism, it says: QuoteWikipedia: Moral Relativism In popular culture people often describe themselves as "morally relativist," meaning that they are accepting of other people&#
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QuoterrmoderatorTo whom it may concern: fatherof3 has been banned from the board. This thread certainly has its share of "Internet trolls." Fatherof3 was not a troll. While he and I weren't "on the same page" some of the time, he was sincere in his intentions, questions and views. (Unlike someone else here *cough passionate cough* who isn't banned.) Was ther
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QuotePassionate I am the perfect me no matter what I do. All of my actions are a total reflection of who I am. My personality, beliefs, thoughts and actions are at all times mine. It doesn't mean I live a moral life (morality is relative) or that I might not have room for improvement, just that I am me. So for thousands of dollars, one of the things you learned is that “today you are Y
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Let's say there was a carnival that traveled to town to town. The crew was extremely reckless and many of the rides weren't set up properly. Because of this a number of the riders were severely injured everytime a ride finished. Unfortunately, the injured riders exited the ride where the oncoming passengers couldn't see what had happened and unsuspecting riders continued to stand a
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QuoteughaibuOkay, but for me the first question is why do people put themselves in the situation? There are no cults or abusive groups without victims. Reading various posts on this board can be quite heart breaking, people who have already suffered a negative experience costing them years will ask "is this group okay?" or similar. For me this is the question, why would anyone, partic
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QuoteHopeful Souleye witness accounts and experiences will build understanding of what is really going on in Bluffdale, UT. This is posted in that spirit. And continuing in that spirit, I decided to post my experience with Impact: A few years ago, my first child was born. It was a wonderful time at first, however a week after I gave birth, my hormones went crazy and I was overcome with s
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Quotearmy-of-meOh wait... since he did me a favor, I guess I didn't learn forgiveness after all, did I? ... Also, it is extremely dangerous. It gives abusers a ticket to "fulfill their pre-life contracts". Any and every wrong doing can be explained away with this concept, and in fact people should be thanking the abuser for teaching them life lessons. This is a sickening concept
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QuoteskepticIt definitely makes NO SENSE! This "philosopy" is seductively convenient & self serving. It is NON-SENSE. It's inherently illogical and contradictory. It causes the "lgat effect" in me: when I try to make sense of the non-sense my head spins. Maybe that's part of the plan: to cause confusion in the brains of the subjects. skeptic I liek
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QuoteexImpactWell, how about instead of using your mind or your heart, why not use your brain? When originally posted about "heart/"mind", using your whole brain was what I was generally getting at, but it came out a littel different I guess. :P That's why I put "heart" and "mind" in quotations and used the words logic and emotion instead. I wanted to po
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QuotePassionateThen Impact would say that the child had asked for that to happen in the previous life before they came to Earth, so they could learn a lesson. While I understand the moderator's point that we coudl go on and on and never agree about past lives, chakras, etc... the concept of pre-life contracts is something I've wanted to discuss here. I think it is something that can b
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Quotefatherof3 I would like to know when most of you went through the Impact training if you are willing to share because I also know that with time companies can improve and they most likely dont stay the same. Damagedbyassociation and I both attended this summer.
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RsWinters, I know you've been going through a lot, and I'm really glad that you are on the road to recovery. QuoteRswintersOkay folks. I have just got back from doing something that got me out of my head, and back in my heart. I have some good news, despite what Klemmer may have told you, you don't have to be "in your head" OR "in your heart". In fact, making
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Quotefatherof3I have always said that you can find something to learn out of everything in life. Even if it is bad or evil. ... Maybe im weird but i always learn something out of every situation i am in. You're not weird in any sense for this, I learn what not to do all the time from bad sources, examples and experiences. Impact is a very, very good example of this for me. The road to w
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In a previous post on the LDS (Mormon) perspective on Self-Awareness Groups (aka Impact), I realized that I neglected to include another text addressing the concern. Again, my intention is not to alienate anyone, I just think that it includes an honest look at what LGAT's are really about, regardless of religious affiliation. Also, it is specifically written for a large demographic group of
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Damagedbyassociation, I cried when I read your post. What Impact has done in regards to your family is sickening. Please know you have my deepest sympathy and full support and that my prayers are with you, your wife and children and I hope that the mess can be worked through. If you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask. QuotedamagedbyassociationHello all, This has been a relief to
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QuoteformerimpactgradexImpact mentioned that, in his opinion, LDS people tend to have the most difficult time being involved with the Impact Trainings because their beliefs are regularly challenged and often belittled. I fully support everything that was said in his paragraph. I am not LDS myself but while in the training I became aware of a release from the head of that faith regarding &qu
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