Informed Choice Before I return Hassan’s book, Releasing the Bonds to the library again, I found a couple more items that mean so much more now with 20/20 hind sight. I recommend not leaving anti-LGAT literature laying around; current trainees are programmed to reject all criticism so checking it out at the library is the perfect solution and saves a lot of conflict. On pages 118 and 119 w
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Behavior, Groups & Leaders I support the pronouncement of the moderator that the above topics as they apply to Impact should be our focus. I would add that a modern, American English dictionary should be the standard for word definition. Would that I had found this forum earlier. It rings with authenticity just as it is, in a self-publishing situation that stimulates thought and tea
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More Definitions Once again I resort to dictionary definitions because the word “cult” means many things to many people. Webster says the word cult comes from the Latin cultus, to cultivate, to care, adoration, formal religious veneration, a system of formal religion or worship. It means formal religion. The third meaning is a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious, a system of religi
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Religion-Dictionary Definition We all have our own notions about this word and about the extent to which Impact is a religion. Perhaps Webster could expand the common ground of contributors to this thread. The very word “thread” fits the underlying etymology of the word “religion.” The word rely comes from religare-to tie back, restrain. Ligare means to tie, bind, a filament as a thread us
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Circle Up Billboards, Remember, Remember Earlier this year there was an Impact billboard with the cartoon characters circled up with the caption “Remember,” near the Texaco station in Downey, Idaho. Nothing too unusual about that, or was there? Later on during this summer sometime the entire well built billboard with strong metal framework disappeared. On examination of the site it appeared
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SaneAgain, In response to your two posts on 8/19, there are no dumb questions. Thanks for the chance to elaborate and hopefully clarify. What I learned was in spite of, not because of Impact. The awful music was hard to swallow much less sing at the top of your voice. My church took a stand against LGAT methods in the 19th century. I quote “Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith” p. 137; “
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Indoctrination vs, Training Since this is an education forum, not a religious forum, a little latitude in discussion is needed to combat what is clearly a religious based indoctrination entity, Impact Trainings. They have chosen to proclaim ecumenical status, that is, worldwide or general in extent influence or application. Their deprivation of mental freedom offends not only all religions,
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Army-of-me, No need to apologize for your comments of yesterday questioning my comment on the Impact learning statement, “The purpose of life is to learn.” Your reaction is typical of LDS folks exposed to the Impact false, vain and foolish doctrine. The statement looks very appealing at first glance, but it is really a self serving statement put out there to legitimize their perverted traini
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Impact Diplomas ? Ever wonder why nobody ever gets a diploma or written evidence of course completion from Impact Trainings, excepting receipts for tuition of course? This is no accident, as they like to say. Impact is in reality religious syncretism, a religious system that has resulted from the mingling of previously existing systems. It has obviously been created by the reconciliation an
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The REAL Purpose of Life The favorite canned, trite phrase of Impact trainers is surely, “The purpose of life is to learn.” Further, in TIT and even earlier, trainees are taught that a loving god would not loose any of his children, no matter what. In order to debunk these two notions I will need to refer to some LDS scripture which will show at least what LDS folks in Impact Trainings
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Religious Brainwashing - Impact’s Dirty Skirts There is a most interesting piece written by attorney Marci Hamilton on the Elizabeth Smart experience. As I read it I likened the Smart experience to that of an Impact trainee. Brian David Mitchell was her trainer. He used mental manipulation connected to Smart’s religion. One who has lost her free will is no less a prisoner. She was proces
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Life, Liberty and Pursuit of REAL Happiness It is clear that constitutional rights of Impact trainees are being violated because the Impact process deprives citizens of inalienable rights for at least two of the three rights listed above. A person under the control of any other person has been deprived of liberty. SaneAgain, on July 25, called attention to the fact that it’s ridiculous to c
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Catch 22, What is the full Impact? The lifeblood of Impact is control. Those who have succumbed to “the process’s” sinister and subtle craftiness need not have been exposed long to suffer insanity. Many of those who inquire and test the water of Impact are suffering victims of control before Impact, yet as they draw near to the training, even before the guest presentation, processed, un-witt
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Passionate, Excellent question! Impact does more than dabble in religion, it is a religion. This gets into the real guts of the corruption of scripture that Impact “dabbles” in. I don’t profess to have all of the answers on the subject, but here are a few scriptural references from the Bible: John 8:58, “Before Abraham was, I am.”; Micah 5:2. “...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that
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Hope&Joy wrote, "To me it all sounds too much like they've got a big mouth, a big head, and they're a big talker...all definitions of an egotist...interesting word for someone in Impact, don't you think?" Yes! There is another word however that applies better. It is the opposite of humble, humility, not the opposite of shameful, slovenly, sloppy etc. That wo
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Judge Not ? From the first hour of Quest, trainees are conditioned to be non judgmental of “the process.” Eventually many trainees come out of the Impact ether and begin to question the process and use right and wrong as these word should be used by rational people. As Hope&Joy so correctly stated, Impact trainers quote from Him whenever it serves their self-serving purpose. The be
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Until Impact affects someone directly or through their family etc. there is not much hope of getting their interest, much less support. We should enlist the support of legislators, administrators, lawyers etc, who have had such experience with Impact in a way that they have felt or even seen the pain, frustration, and anguish expressed in profusion here. There has to be a pool of persons who ha
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Impact TIT Origins One very early morning I was a bleary eyed witness to some bizarre goings on in the training room. The Bergers were holding court seated comfortably in the corner of the training room with trainees scattered about on the floor in a manner that simulated the disciples surrounding the Master. The staff was seated at the long table at the back of the room in a trance of total
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Spiritual I was hoping someone in the know would bring clarity to this issue. You have made my day. I have something to say about being judgmental about Impact. It will take a while to get my thoughts together on this. In the meantime I say that their trainings on the judgement/accountability issues are so convoluted and destructive to logic and reason that some clarity needs to be had. T
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Impact TIT Divinity Threat From postings here and from second hand smoke given off by practicing TIT folks I gather that trainees are taught that they are, even currently, literally-- gods. One of the scriptures that they mingle with the philosophies of men is John14:12, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than thes
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Professing and Practicing Hypocrisy is professing religion and not practicing it. Here we have an LGAT that practices religion and refuses to profess it. Qualified professionals in California are working toward reforming the LGAT model by removing secrecy, increasing the professional level of trainers, reducing training class sizes, etc. All this will impact the bottom line. What would be
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LGAT Reformation? I found an interesting article at entitled “Can an LGAT Change?” It’s by Chris Mathe. I Googled on “history LGAT origin.” If I made a typo, just Google on “awareness page” and look at the feature article by Chris Mathe. I visited this Website many months ago when looking for answers about LGAT’s. I would have remembered the article if it had been there then. I remai
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exImpact Thank you for sharing your impressions of me. I feel like I’m experiencing the feedback arcs all over again. You must have been one hell of a good trainer and coach for Impact. You are too correct. I have imprinted on my mental hard drive the Impact language. Part of this is just being facetious. A troublesome part though is that through the trauma I have been altered mentally.
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1985—Passing of a Prophet and Reincarnation of Old LGAT in New Impact Form I see in these pages both writings reflecting a lot of pain and havoc along with a lot of clarity of expression and realization/understanding that has resulted from Impact Trainings. What works for me in addition to the writings of Steve Hassan on the Moonies, are the writings of Bruce McConkie, who died just as Impact
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Comparison Game-- Impact Anathema I’m coached on a regular and irritating basis to get out of the comparison game. Impact hates comparisons. I admit to using comparisons a lot, but that works for me, so it’s right, right? Impact teaches trainees to have clear intentions when communicating. Is it any wonder that “Communications” comes before “Enrollment?” They want you to be at cause and f
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Convergence of the Secular and Religious Opposition to Impact Formerimpactgrad, Amen! You say Impact makes a lot of promises that it fails to deliver. You have just stated one of the Evil One’s main characteristics. There are plenty of cogent arguments to be made using the secular approach. I only bring in religious argument because Impact is a religion. Truth will never be in conflict
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Army, I would be interested in the reaction you receive from posting of this warning. My experience is that Impact trainees are in deep denial about this. My view is that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck etc. it is a duck. How clear can it be. Various local authorities interpret the warning differently which allows choice, but come on. For Impact to join in t
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The Longest Day—June 1944—June 2007 Army-of-Me is becoming Army-of-We. I think of the Nazis as just a big LGAT that caused a lot of death and destruction. The same techniques of mind manipulation, coercion and deception were and are used in both. The army of invasion at Normandy, France has its analog in the Army-of -We. The leaders at Impact Center (read Fuehrer Bunker) have reason to des
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Quest Graduation–Spiritual Experience My first Quest graduation was as a guest observer. It was memorable and confirmation that all supernatural manifestations are not of God. The candle light parade brought visions of early Nazi rallies from news reels of the 1930s and 1940s. I will never forget that event and the feelings of distress I felt at the time. The Quest effect on those close to
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Army, You were told in Quest that hanging on to your peanuts would cause you to loose your place at the abundant banquet table of life, right? That advice is really designed to keep your wallet open and you willing to pay for and attend Summit. You are experiencing their false, and vain, and foolish doctrine. Do a little experiment by sticking your hand into a jar of peanuts with a mouth th
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