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11 years ago
skeptic
Hi Corboy, Good idea to email the bullying info to the trainer. It's been a long time since I did the sessions. I did them in 2003, but it wasn't until 2005 when I started figuring out the characteristics of the other person in the conflict. I emailed the trainer in 2005, but got no reply. I emailed again in 2006. Still, no reply. Uncannily, in 2008 I inadvertently emailed an e
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11 years ago
skeptic
Quotecorboy I would refuse to take any nonviolent communication course unless the instructor can tell you how to discern whether you are dealing with a person who is in good faith, versus someone who sees you as an entity to hack into. In the latter case, a commitment to nonviolent education will set you up to be screwed, blued and tattooed. If someone is playing a game using a marked de
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12 years ago
skeptic
This reminds me of Milgram's obedience experiments. I got chills reading about it the other day because it could've been me, back in my guru-following days. I blindly, faithfully followed guru-leaders, and employed tricks of self-delusion such as "reframing". I would have most probably deferred to the authority figure, and instead of seeing what was really going on, I wou
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12 years ago
skeptic
Good for you for taking bullies on! I loved reading how you did it at this LGAT. And, yes, thankfully you got out!
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12 years ago
skeptic
epyx- I didn't attend SM "seminars" but I just want to say that I think what you get from a book on your own is not the same as what particpants in a group training get. In the presence and experience of a group of people, group psychology and dynamics come into play and lgats use them to manipulate and indoctrinate participants. And while some of the "philosophy" mi
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12 years ago
skeptic
Well said, guruwhacker. It is amazing that people think BK has something worth knowing, hearing, using, having, buying! The turnaround is downright crazzzzzzy. Loving reality, my ass. She's a freakin NUT!
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12 years ago
skeptic
Hi WIZARD - If you're referring to my post, I didn't mean that the attendees are trying to screw their lives up (if that's what you were saying). The lgat profiteers are trying to do that. That will keep their supply of desperate people coming. I agree that the attendees are looking for quick, magic solutions to every-day human problems (yawn); these are the folks the lgats typi
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12 years ago
skeptic
I wasn't involved in Sedona Method but the operating styles of lgats seem to be the same. As I look back on the one I was involved with I see how breaking families and relationships apart brings dollars and more victims for the lgat. Drama = dollars. Lgats stir up as much trouble in peoples' lives as possible, that way the subjects, as you say Anticult, become dependent on the lgat,
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12 years ago
skeptic
Ellen - You say it so well! I love reading your comments! -skeptic
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12 years ago
skeptic
Were you encouraged to recruit more participants? That is another red flag. I have noticed, since realizing that the "personal growth course" I was involved in is the business of thought reform, that anything I've done that is NOT cultic NEVER asked me to bring in more business for them. NEVER. Whether it's legitimate therapy, a kayak class, a week long rafting trip, a lec
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12 years ago
skeptic
QuoteJack 3. Applying interpersonal pressure to promote conformity Not their game at all. ********* I went through a different lgat program, and when I was still in the trance I would not have been able to identify the lgat's manipulative tricks because they are quite covert. It took awhile and a coming out of the trance of "enlightenement" until I could see mor
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13 years ago
skeptic
I think that even if you BELIEVE in the new age bullshit, it will not work. It was in trying to adhere to it that I finally learned what BULLSHIT it is. Re Oprah, I think that because it didn't work for her doesn't mean she does not believe in it. As far as the money-making hypocritical peddlers of the scams are concerned, I don't think they believe in any of it. Just as I don
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13 years ago
skeptic
QuoteJBQuoteRswintershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbL3db2z_Ic Oh my gosh. This was hilarious. If it was not for the fact that I bought into this crap philosphy and destroyed my life by applying it. Wow. It's 8:30 a.m. where I am and I'm laughing my ass off. At the clip, not at you're having applied it and having your life ruined. I remember when The Secret first hit t
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13 years ago
skeptic
QuoteThe Anticultanother thing is Oprah seems to say she was depressed, and also taking 3 different drugs for medical problems? One has to wonder where the truth lies. It doesn't make any sense. On the other hand, maybe the Eckhart Tolle nonsense really started to mess Oprah up? She says she was falling into a depression, and that is what will happen if a person starts to try to detach
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13 years ago
skeptic
How do I know so much? I did my homework, which it sounds like you need to do.
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13 years ago
skeptic
You wrote: "What we are trying to do is determine which explanation fits best." Not "we". After much examination, I have made my determination. Correct, I did not provide evidence or argument for my claim. I have decided that that's not something I'm going to do with people who are certain that the wolf in sheep's clothing is really a sheep. I know,
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13 years ago
skeptic
I also attended CONtxt "courses", over a period of six years, and while I was very impressed with the "material" at the time (due to the fact that I was conned, coupled with my ignorance of mind-control technology), I am no longer impressed. CONtxt is an LGAT, and is/was in the business of mind control. Naturally, when I was involved I did not see it. Alas, that is the natu
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13 years ago
skeptic
QuoteThe Anticult Its a shame there is not more education and awareness about these subtle methods of persuasion. I second that!
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13 years ago
skeptic
Last night, I was in the middle of something very absorbing when VLINDEN emailed me that she wasn't able to access this site. I was only halfway paying attention, and I thought I was talking to question lady! IT WAS VLINDEN. SHE can't get on the site. Sorry for the confusion. skeptic
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13 years ago
skeptic
Ooops, wrong person. Someone emailed me last night, and I only want to identify them by their name on this board. By the email address I *thought* I was writing to question lady but I just went through old emails and see that I wasn't! Whew.....that solves that weirdness. However, I don't have time right now to figure out who (i.e. what their name on the board is) emailed. Maybe la
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13 years ago
skeptic
I was contacted by question lady, asking if I can get on RR. She is not able to and she wanted me to pass along the problem she's having: I can't get to the message board. It gives me the invalid error message again. And I can't find his email address on the pages I can open. Would you pass this message onto him that many of my bookmarks of the Forum pages lead me to the R
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13 years ago
skeptic
QuoteVic-LucQuoteskepticI just connected two more dots I hadn't connected these past several years. It always seems so *nice* that part of an lgat program is to send out "participants" to reconcile with estranged family/friends. While reading this piece I now understand WHY: to recruit more people. Of course. I mean, when you've reconnected with and regrained trust of peop
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13 years ago
skeptic
I just connected two more dots I hadn't connected these past several years. It always seems so *nice* that part of an lgat program is to send out "participants" to reconcile with estranged family/friends. While reading this piece I now understand WHY: to recruit more people. Of course. I mean, when you've reconnected with and regrained trust of people from whom you'd
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13 years ago
skeptic
QuoteEnviro_CopSkeptic Is there any point where they say things to make you distance yourself from family? I guess I am trying to understand, is it so hidden a person might not realize it? Is it repetition of an idea, or do you just suddenly think that the group is your only hope. I saw my wife change nearly every aspect of morals and ethics we both agreed on in a matter of three weekends over
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13 years ago
skeptic
I remember feeling both excitement and fear when entering a new course. While standing in line for entry to my fourth course I remarked to the person next to me that it felt as if we were about to undergo brain surgery. I was referring to the stress level of submitting to whatever we were going to experience, which was always a mystery. Little did I know that, in fact, we were undergoing brain
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13 years ago
skeptic
QuoteZorroAnother thing I've noticed is that nowday's I'm really protective of myself and my feelings. To the point of being a bit cocky and detached when it comes to feelings. When I was in Landmark I was all about being mellow and lovey dovey. Not nowdays. I've discovered that I've put up a wall around a heart that can turn into ice on demand. I'm also a bit over p
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13 years ago
skeptic
Hi vlinden, The answer to your questions is no, no, no & no. However, after six days in the "course" she'd have answered yes, yes, yes & yes. The lgat was magic. Or so it seemed. The self-blinding, self-deceiving feature that (at least) the hardcore converts fall victim to ends up preventing them from seeing the truth about the lgat, which in turn renders them unable
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13 years ago
skeptic
HA HA HA HA HA! Impacted!!!!!!!!!!!!
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13 years ago
skeptic
It's landmark's way of denigrating everyone and their past, to turn everything around and get the subjects to believe that when they were authentic they were being inauthentic and vice versa: in landmine, where they are INauthentic, they now hallucinate that they are authentic. It's the sick and twisted lgat way. Your ex has been brainwashed; what he is saying now is not who
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