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18 years ago
skeptic
I don't think one has to have gone through LE to educate/warn others about the known techniques LE uses to persuade. A flier with an excerpt or two from a book or body of work would be sufficient re public education. I would love to see the potential recruitees be informed that (a) something is wrong with what they're about to "experience" and (b) there is a NAME for it and
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18 years ago
skeptic
Hi Maggie, I have thought about things to do to stop, or in some way impact, lgats. One thought I've had is grass roots/activist/protest kind of thing. I'd love to stand outside a Landmark intro and distribute a flyer with a WARNING message. I think LACK OF INFORMATION about cult recruitment tactics and about disguises cults wear is a significant part of WHY people get conned.
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18 years ago
skeptic
QuoteMarkusWelch Hi Skeptic. Thank you for your comments. It is a complex issue and it has been discussed and debated previously. The authors of the USC felt that religion was best left out of political matters, and this perhaps was not without consideration of previous affairs regarding both religion and government. For the record I am an athiest and I despise lgats, etc. Fraud is alr
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18 years ago
skeptic
QuoteMarkusWelch I might add that calls for legislation, while the intent I understand is good, may do more harm than any good. If laws are created against certain forms of speech, those same laws may one day be used against those that initiated them. This is certainly a negative potential consequence for everyone. Liberty requires vigilance. This gets tricky. Is mind control simply a
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18 years ago
skeptic
QuoteEther DragonWhy isn't the federal or state government more active in regards to Landmark (and others?) Landmark seems to be well documented as using cult-like behavior modification, with great numbers of victims, family, and friends willing to testify as such. Why isn't there anything from the government? My question exactly! Mind control is a known and a real thing, and LGATs
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18 years ago
skeptic
QuoteExcalibur Boy oh boy, do you realize what you’re doing here? If we were to be consistent with your thinking here we wouldn’t be accepting what ANYBODY says. Why then would we need human interaction and communication? If this is the way you feel, I guess we all should dismiss what anyone says - This is part of the sheer insanity of what LGATs "teach". While isolated pieces of
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18 years ago
skeptic
Thank you, Excalibur! I appreciate your perspective, your points, the links and other supportive info. While I was not involved with Landmark, I was involved with an organization that sounds like Landmark. There are a number of "courses"/"trainings" that are similar to Landmark, all using the same "philosophy" and techniques for mind manipulation. Being onl
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18 years ago
skeptic
I just found Leadingmylife.com. Big UGH. CONtext Associated now has a 6 day FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR so-called vacation! Now that's a tricky way to lure people into an LGAT. Call it a vacation! And, again, it looks like Randy Revell is alive in the "About us" section. Such deception. It sickens me, now that I know about the LGAT formula for scrambling/rewiring brains and deh
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18 years ago
skeptic
Correction to my initial post: There is mention on Context Associated's (CA) webpage that Randy Revell died. His wife, Judy, mentions it in a few of the "Weekly Newsletters" under "Forums". His bio, however, says that Randy and Judy *reside* on Vashon Island and "You may contact Randy Revell at randyrevell@contextassociated.com". Conveniently not updated?
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18 years ago
skeptic
As if the Bill of Rights also confers the freedom to deceive! To me, it's worse than deception, though deception is the tool that is used. It's about stealing a person's SELF or soul. That seems criminal to me. Brains are scrambled, personalities are altered, free will is stolen. This is theft, of the absolute worst kind, worse than stealing material items. Theft of the
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18 years ago
skeptic
From what I've gathered, Randy Revell's involvement in the cultic arena has all been in the LGAT genre. Unfortunately, I think CONtext Associated is still prospering. Based on what I've read, and am reading here, about Landmark (and also about Lifespring) CONtext Associated is essentially the EXACT same thing! It just didn't hit the big time like est/Landmark, but the so-ca
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18 years ago
skeptic
Quotepatrick-darcy i understand the hyponosis and how effective it is but to get hypnotised the people gotta show up for the event. This is where recruitment comes in! I, too, am amazed at all the scamming going on and am wondering why. Some ideas I've had are these. As family/community breaks down in our fast-paced, dehumanized society, people long for real human connection. Cul
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18 years ago
skeptic
QuoteCosmophilospherI don't want to be the one getting sued by these maniacs! :-) But this is why I respect people who are willing to take these people on head-on, that takes a lot of guts. I'm new to this whole LGAT scam, having discovered only a year ago that I was conned for a 6 year period, ending in 2001. Now the relationship with my sister is an irreconcilable mess because
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18 years ago
skeptic
Well said, midonov. This is part of the insanity of the LGAT with which I was involved. Redefining words, redefining reality. Doublespeak. All very confusing, and really, unuseable. It's MIND GAMES. You learn how to deceive yourself, which leads to deceiving others and to living a life of deception (sociopathic). Since you create reality, if you don't like something, you just te
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
skeptic
This is just an FYI. Randy Revell, who co-founded Mind Dynamics and Lifespring (according to what I've read) and who started his own LGAT in 1978, CONtext Associated, died over a year ago. There is no mention of it on ContextAssociated.com. In fact, under his bio is his email address if you want to contact him! CONtext Associated's webpage says they teach emotional intelligence.
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18 years ago
skeptic
I have the same question about finding existing lawsuits on the LGAT that conned me for 6 years. Does anyone know what actually constitutes a case? As PSIsurvivr said, something very wrong was happening there. I'm under the impression, though, that someone has to have suffered measurable damage, such as psychiatric hospitalization, attempted suicide, in order for there to be a case. Is
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18 years ago
skeptic
I think a book educating about LGATs is critical! LGATs are not recognized by society-at-large as a cult/mind control, unlike other more obvious cults, because they appear so mainstream. I always thought I'd recognize a cult when I saw one and knew I would never get conned. Well, an LGAT got me . . . for 6 years.
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