Just-googling, I don't think Butler had any direct influence or direction in creating q-net per se. But what always amazes me is the fact that many of thee gurus attract the cream of the crop of chapters, charlatans and degenerates around them. AND, they often put these very same people in positions of influence, power and respect within the cult. If one simply accesses the surface ri
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Corboy, Laguna beach with devotees slanging drugs out of their bead bags was just one of many Hare Krishna drug operations. At least 6 devotees I know personally did time for many years smuggling drugs between Asia/Mexico.South America and the US. In Butler's group you'd be hard pressed to find young devotees in the cult today who don't do some ganja on the side. Addiction runs
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Just-googling: Getting evidence at this stage is having insiders balls up and do the right thing. Fat chance of that happening in a cult. Many who do want to speak up are waiting for any statute of limitations to expire since they may have been directly involved or risk being attacked/injured/harassed by butler devotees as happened to Gralow and others when Tusli was being exposed... As far
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There were many people involved in the smuggling of the money from Asia, including Bhalakilya. It was a very elaborate operation planned by Butler. There were suitcases with money transferred and handed off at various places so as not to have all the money be with one person at any one time.
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Exactly. corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Considering how Krishna shapeshifted, Prabhupada, > Chris Butler and Tulsi should be teaching us to > honor trans people!
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Chanting 64 rounds a day, or 16 for that matter does not leave much time for "service". I know few if any devotees these days that chant more than 4-8 rounds a few times a week. Japa's fallen out of vogue. Most devotees and ritual-based cult systems don't amount to much more than a robotic reflex. Ever heard a take of Srila Prabhupada chanting on japa mala? It totally sound
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For reference and context of my mention of Butler, AKA, Chris Butler, Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahmsa in this post. He is a guru disciple of Bhaktivedanta swami and I grew up in His overseas gurukul where brahmacharis were also molested/groped/touched in unwanted ways. That's what you get when you put a bunch of boys going through puberty into a school together with no parents or mo
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It was always humorous that Butler's camp avoided using traditional gaudya vaishnav tunes to sing their mantras bit instead they used pop songs from the likes of Dylan and the Beatles... Speaking of the Beatles: Ironic how the modern-day krishna cult is sp concerned about social acceptance so they are now celebrating the "disappearance day" of a defunct Beatle who smoked all
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Just leaving this here: Over 40 years of pedophilia in Swami Prabhupadas grand spiritual organization. Under the Swamis direction, he set up a bunch of schools or kids as young as 5 years old. Abusese of these kids started early on when he was still alive. The schools were operated by unqualified teachers, had no counselors and there was no system in place to deal with abuse. all was sw
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A country that has no systems in place to care for conditions of poverty is a country that exerts the highest form of violence upon its own people. A country that puts fictitious religious concerns and mythology ahead of rational and scientific thought and consideration for the welfare of its people is a country that exerts the highest form of violence upon its own citizens. Any country, but in t
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On the topic of violence: What with its main holy book being centered around a religious war and pretty much every purana exploring violence and justifying it: Prasurama, the serial killing avatar, Narashimha—the atheist eating god, chaitanya ready to crack the skulls of alcoholic brothers (Jagai/madhai), is it any wonder Never mind the pastimes of krishna riddled with violence and
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The store in question was Westside Natural foods. It was owned by Rama Ransons father. He has passed on. The mother lives in New Zealand and is involved heavily with he cult. Far as I know she lives on a property that was originally purchased as place for Bulter to stay. Rama's big revelation that he was ina cult came after he realized that when he was just a little child, his mother, on
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The store in question was Westside Natural foods. It was owned by Rama Ransons father. He has passed on. The mother lives in New Zealand and is involved heavily with he cult. Far as I know she lives on a property that was originally purchased as place for Bulter to stay. Rama's big revelation that he was ina cult came after he realized that when he was just a little child, his mother, on
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By Butler and Tusli's logic, worrying about being inclusive and diverse in ones selection of leadership is "nazis and hitler". Nevermind her paramaguru bluntly said he did not think hitler was so bad and ran a totalitarian cult... Never mind he is on tape and lectures demeaning blacks, women, homosexuals and mulsims... I also love how modern "hindus" like ISKCON, G
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According to Vedic ideology and philosophy, a child who is aborted is simply experiencing their karma. No need to cry for the loss of an unborn entity. What one should cry for a is a society that trumps the rights of a living mother/woman because of unfounded naive religiosity and woo woo. Unwanted births result in mass social issues that are far more criminal and destructive in the long ru
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Butler's mom should have aborted him. I have nothing against abortion. Every woman has a right to her uterus and whether she chooses to want to be a mother or not. End of story. Every modern and progressive society should have no issue with and fully support abortion. It's sane, ethical and responsible. The issue with Gabbard taking money from planned parenthood is that as usual i
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Chris butler, always the PR man and ready to sue instead of debate with rationale and logic.
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There is derogatory phrase that bhaktisiddhanta used in explaining what his mission was about. He said something to the effect of "we are not here to be construction workers...". I found this laughable and arrogant. It's basically a type of castism. He looks down on hard workers and promotes spiritual intellectualism. Yet india has some of the most crazy huge temples... Anoth
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May 2023 allow anyone visiting here to give up this nonsense, superstitious, fanatical religious cult once and for all and live an authentic life driven by rational consideration and contentment. Jagad Guru is a lying scum bag who lives in a big beach house, marries his disciple, and is hateful, vulgar and basically a narcissist. Bhaktivednata was a cheat and lier who spread a bullshit cul
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Here we go again—Tulsi Gabbard playing her wishy-washy game-changing hats as it supports her campaign and rhetoric. Everyone sees right through it now. They know that she is entirely manipulated by and controlled by her guru and his whims. She sounds like a total nut job in nearly every tweet and article about her, which is a fact. She grew up in a religious cult, worshipping a narcissistic freak
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No one knows a word you are talking about Culthusiast. I think anyone visiting here would be hard-pressed to make heads or tales of a word you have "contributed" here about this hare krishna cult. Please try to give some more relevant background about your talking points and not speak in riddles and hidden messages. No point in doing so and helps no one. Here is some surprising ne
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It's not about healing. That ship sailed for many of us. It was either lost years, wasted time or complete nonsense. As I've said, to me this place is to open up the minds of those who are still in it and are not comfortable with many aspects but have a hard time being realistic about it, finding the confidence to question it and ultimately abandon something that has little to no va
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I beg to differ TruthWins. And I see you come here often and declare a mood of defeat. This forum exists to show how they abuse, what they abuse, what they stand for, and believe in and how this is all damaging and crippling to society at large. If your final word here is "the don't care about this forum", then leave. Please. Leave this space for those fighting the good fight with
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Siddhaswarupanandas's political career ends on fox news. Very telling...
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Leaving this here for those Butler followers with a brain.
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The most dangerous things in the world are immense accumulations of human beings who are manipulated by only a few heads. Carl Jung
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60 years later the Hare Krishna's make a bold move: The closest thing in Butler's cult to a "woman guru" was Katyayani. As soon as she took on followers, she was rejected by Butler, et al. Wailana, AKA Vaishnava Dasi, Butler's wife (ex-wife? or simply a woman he houses for free on the dime of his disciples down the street?), has somewhat of a following, though o
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Waking up in a third-world country with no parental guidance at 4AM every morning for 6+ years and taking cold bucket showers while listening to Butler's angry rants on audio tape... Great fun for children. Looks like Bhaktivedants "shaved heads and dhotis" style of surrender was too "cultish" for Butler. Baseball caps and Khaki shorts, are less culty. Guitars give
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