Tulsi out, this clown in: Basically, fanatical religious nut jobs (AKA not rational humans who believe in flying monkeys and elephant-headed gods) are trying to find commonality with other religious nut jobs to exert power over society at large. Controlling their reproductive rights, anti-scientific ideas and any manner of looney ass shit religious folks believe is true: Punishing gay/queer p
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How will butler reinvent himself?
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New video for Knocking on Heaven's Door
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Things to ponder:
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The Krishnas, from the time of Bhaktivinode and throughout history have a typical cult mentality of feeling they are above the law. They feel that the rules do not apply to them. Prabhupada wanted to build varnashram farm communities. The major experiments of that in the US, Canada, Europe, India, South America etc all failed and broke laws. You can say that Butler's own cult started in t
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BREAKING NEWS! After much deep research and study, scientists have finally discovered what the hare krishna mantra is good for. Putting your ass to sleep! In other news, all Butler's followers abandoned him and he is now working at Kailua KFC while living out of his car.
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Brahma has four heads, we have foreheads. Vishnu has four arms, we have forearms. And krishna has blue balls. And so do you. So many coincidences it makes one want to chant 64 rounds and drink butler's foot water. Everything is a remnant of something before it. A remix. An evolution. Run comrade.
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Culthusiast Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > it's good that there are those who remember. > Because watching the FB / Meta profile of Tulsi > Gabbard, one has the impression that there is no > shortage of amateurs of cheap
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On dreams about the cult: Yes, I too occasionally dream abotu the cult. Mostly gurukula and beig stuck there. That is literally the dream. I canot leave or I have returned and am panicing that I cannot leave, miss my family etc. Never pleasant. Otherwise, I do not dream about the anything specific about this cult. My personal attempts here are not a result of not being able to let go of thi
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Religious movements are created all the time. Some gain momentum, some attract only a few followers then dwindle and die. Some are riddled with hypocrisy and corruption, some hide it well, and some are otherwise benign with simple teachings of brotherhood and communal service/kindness. We don't know much of anything substantial about Chaitanya. The supposed and claimed scholar left NO WRI
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“Kali Santarana Upanishad is one of the smallest Upanishad and contains the importance of the chant Hare Rama...Hare Krishna...” “The Kali-Santarana Upanishad, also called Kalisantaranopanisad, is a Sanskrit text. It is a minor Upanishad of Hinduism. The Vaishnava Upanishad was likely composed before c. 500 CE. ...” “The Kali Santarana Upanishad is widely
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Various SIF claims about the "Haribol Nitai Gaur" "Mantra": Haribol Nitai Gaur Mantra | Acharya Das, Insight Timer The transcendental vibrations of the "Haribol" and "Nitai-Gaur" mantras are not only all-purifying for the heart and mind, they are all-auspicious and can bless one who meditates upon them with full self and God-realization. To practice thi
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The land where god himself walked, home to a billion Hindus, where the Vedas and mantras have been chanted with sincere faith since the dawn of time: ZERO EFFECT The least happy country in the world... How much proof does one need to show that these ideologies, mantras, guru's and gods have ZERO effect on anything? If they do help in some way, please show me. Please show me what va
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Butler needs to be reminded of Ekadasi. And what is Ekadasi according to the hare krishnas? "Those who eat grains on Ekadasi and on the Day of Lord Hari (including Janmastami, Gaura Purnima etc.) obtain the sin equal to killing one's own mother, own father, own brother and own Guru; and they cannot reach the spiritual world, which is why one should never eat grains on fasting days.&q
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Just-googling, I don't think Butler had any direct influence or direction in creating q-net per se. But what always amazes me is the fact that many of thee gurus attract the cream of the crop of chapters, charlatans and degenerates around them. AND, they often put these very same people in positions of influence, power and respect within the cult. If one simply accesses the surface ri
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Corboy, Laguna beach with devotees slanging drugs out of their bead bags was just one of many Hare Krishna drug operations. At least 6 devotees I know personally did time for many years smuggling drugs between Asia/Mexico.South America and the US. In Butler's group you'd be hard pressed to find young devotees in the cult today who don't do some ganja on the side. Addiction runs
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Just-googling: Getting evidence at this stage is having insiders balls up and do the right thing. Fat chance of that happening in a cult. Many who do want to speak up are waiting for any statute of limitations to expire since they may have been directly involved or risk being attacked/injured/harassed by butler devotees as happened to Gralow and others when Tusli was being exposed... As far
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There were many people involved in the smuggling of the money from Asia, including Bhalakilya. It was a very elaborate operation planned by Butler. There were suitcases with money transferred and handed off at various places so as not to have all the money be with one person at any one time.
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Exactly. corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Considering how Krishna shapeshifted, Prabhupada, > Chris Butler and Tulsi should be teaching us to > honor trans people!
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Chanting 64 rounds a day, or 16 for that matter does not leave much time for "service". I know few if any devotees these days that chant more than 4-8 rounds a few times a week. Japa's fallen out of vogue. Most devotees and ritual-based cult systems don't amount to much more than a robotic reflex. Ever heard a take of Srila Prabhupada chanting on japa mala? It totally sound
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For reference and context of my mention of Butler, AKA, Chris Butler, Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahmsa in this post. He is a guru disciple of Bhaktivedanta swami and I grew up in His overseas gurukul where brahmacharis were also molested/groped/touched in unwanted ways. That's what you get when you put a bunch of boys going through puberty into a school together with no parents or mo
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It was always humorous that Butler's camp avoided using traditional gaudya vaishnav tunes to sing their mantras bit instead they used pop songs from the likes of Dylan and the Beatles... Speaking of the Beatles: Ironic how the modern-day krishna cult is sp concerned about social acceptance so they are now celebrating the "disappearance day" of a defunct Beatle who smoked all
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Just leaving this here: Over 40 years of pedophilia in Swami Prabhupadas grand spiritual organization. Under the Swamis direction, he set up a bunch of schools or kids as young as 5 years old. Abusese of these kids started early on when he was still alive. The schools were operated by unqualified teachers, had no counselors and there was no system in place to deal with abuse. all was sw
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A country that has no systems in place to care for conditions of poverty is a country that exerts the highest form of violence upon its own people. A country that puts fictitious religious concerns and mythology ahead of rational and scientific thought and consideration for the welfare of its people is a country that exerts the highest form of violence upon its own citizens. Any country, but in t
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On the topic of violence: What with its main holy book being centered around a religious war and pretty much every purana exploring violence and justifying it: Prasurama, the serial killing avatar, Narashimha—the atheist eating god, chaitanya ready to crack the skulls of alcoholic brothers (Jagai/madhai), is it any wonder Never mind the pastimes of krishna riddled with violence and
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The store in question was Westside Natural foods. It was owned by Rama Ransons father. He has passed on. The mother lives in New Zealand and is involved heavily with he cult. Far as I know she lives on a property that was originally purchased as place for Bulter to stay. Rama's big revelation that he was ina cult came after he realized that when he was just a little child, his mother, on
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