lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks puddington. While I don't know who the > woman and her son are, I do believe what most of > you have suggested that at the time she was a > victim. She probably was quite young at the time > and JRS was probably 20-35 years older than her. > However, today she would be in her 60's
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that little red flag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion - > > > Originally the term "generation" was used to > describe what time period you came into the walk. > I would have termed 1st generation as those coming > in during the late 50's and in the 60's, while JRS > was establishing his ministry (I can
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Agreed! Let's NEVER Stop! At first it feels odd to blurt out crap when I read someones' words that trigger a weird disjointed memory.I am so grateful to have the opportunity to sahre my little puzzle pieces with all of you; Onion, pretty boy, changed, reep, Jez, cludw, fire w Now, It feels so good to not have that flash backs in my head that never felt good to be now out in th
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Pretty Boy, when are we going to do lunch? Want to do mex after the snow melts?
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Thanks Onion for the link to Rape of Mind.
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that little red flag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm good with being an overachieving backslider. > > Its looking better and better. > > > (As one can tell, sometimes I don't put that much > thought into my posts - just a gleeful reaction of > anticipation!) So, bro, could we "overachieving backsliders"
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Prettyboy - The disingenuous reference by > changedagain I believe is to the responses from > the leaders - they pr4omised investigations and > counseling but so far I have heard from several > people who have called the investigation number > and who have never been called back and I also > und
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If I understand correctly many people are only reading this forum who may be having a difficult time grasping the sexual abuse allegations. In the world out side the walk this is very common. some people deny or are plain reluctant to get involved. That is normal but does not help past, present or future victims. Some people simply weren't in a position to have suspected anything therefore
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Okay CARe - You better pm me so I don't go nuts > trying to figure out who you are. Welcome to this > forum regardless. It's a great place to find > support and give support. Thanks for your words. > > I spent much of the day perusing and pondering... > I was looking up a book on Anah
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CARe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pretty boy said > onion, you are a shining gem. your past is passed; > shine on you crazy diamond (pink floyd/ syd > barrett), yet you are not crazy but you are a > diamond and i believe that everyone reading these > posts absolutely knows this. so shine on, shine on > and on and on. the years were
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JJJ when you are in the forest you can't see the forest for all the trees. Sexual abuse is a difficult issue. "We don;t talk about these things, " was the norm until not so long ago. If you made waves the whole family structure collapsed so families kept 'secrets". Some people say rape or incest are not "Biblical".it is shocking for many to learn that the bib
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Onion, I love you for being here and being you. Thanks for sharing. Feel "different" doesn't it?
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Posts by members in the last month have inspired me to wake up at 3 Am to post this note: I will guess that the peers of my youth know exactly who I am" -the pesky out- spoken younger sister in the Christian Tabernacle Youth. Thanks girls for putting up with me in those years. You all greatly influenced me in such a positive way. I will also guess that my Warshington baby boomer friend
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Prettyboy Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > you all know about jesus' instruction to > forgive > > your enemies. must be supremely tested with > > respect to hargave, holbrook and company, > > especially given, presumably, their walking
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JEZtheBELLE: > > > We live in the land of 'gray' when it comes to > defining the generations within TLW. The majority > of the SECOND generation influx in the 70s > were unmarried singles in their 20s, your family > being an exception to that rule. > > The short-lived THIRD
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i find it so curious how some pastors were > marginalized and then ostracized; for example, bob > simmering and francis frangipane because they > stood up to power because of principle and then > some of their accusers (as i understand things > through conversations of recent or long ago), such &g
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > p.s., > i meant to mention victor frankl and my attraction > to his philosophy, which may somewhat explain my > sense of personal responsibility, accountability > and, ultimately, one's sense of oneself. you can > read about him in your encyclopedia and/or > internet browser. another int
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > regarding the generational discussion, i wonder if > it be more accurate to identify one's generational > placement not by age but when initially became > involved with lw/shiloh. e.g., if one was 50 yoa > first becoming involved with the church in 1970,i > would characterize as 2nd generatio
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quote > Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John > Robert Stevens > Posted by: NancyB () > Date: February 01, 2019 12:06AM > > puddington Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------------k > > Mental health professionals will tell you there > is > > a
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > somewhere along the timeline of my being on this > forum i had read and/or heard that the iowa > legislature had extended the statue of limitations > for sexual assaults claims to 25 years. if so, > would that extension fall within the timeline for > the alleged sexual abuse claim, having taken pl
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Prettyboy - I'm afraid some of the legal > aggression we were all feeling may be somewhat up > in smoke (thank you for the Cheech reference). > There are many who are down, but definitely not > out. > > The State of NY just changed the statute of > limitations so that any person sexually
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JJJ, looking forward to meeting you. el paso > cuisine on me plus i've a small assortment of > vintage hawaiian shirts to brighten your spirits > during tundra time. When we get some local support / therapy groups going, can you supply us with discounted Hawaiian shirts so we know who has the righ
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion Wrote: > > > I was on a date with a guy I had known (and had > a crush on) > > in High School. As we sat in his car in my > > driveway, we got started talking about serious > > topics and somehow this church my mom had > started > > going to came up. When my f
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > John brought so many messages about how the > religious leaders never recognized Christ because > he didn't fit the concept they had from reading > the scriptures. I recall one significant message > from the 70's, which became a This Week, entitled > (I think) "Will You Find God U
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I will always treasure my personal spiritual experiences as something valuable in my life.And those wonderful experiences is part of what makes it so hard to separate the good from the really wrong that did go on behind the scenes. We had good people who loved God in this movement. Then again we had people who used the Lord;s name in vain for their own gain. Yes, there was so much love there
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Does "Why Predators are Attracted to Careers in the Clergy" sound interesting? I'm always researching for credible validations of my theories and opinions- I found this Jaw Dropping post that I might think it was written about CLW. Enjoy and let me know how far your jaws dropped.
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Prettyboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > eva bickhart, jrs' younger sister and married to > fred bickhart (deceased) pastor of the washington, > iowa church could possibly be a wealth of > information if she is still alive, mentally > competent and willing to provide helpful > information. just a thought What kind of information
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Isn't that sort of like the country song "I'm My > Own Grandpa"? Just sayin'. ;) > YES it is!
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Onion I am so sorry. It just hit me when I read a few words on your post about the Mother Whore o Heaven. I can't not even phantom how horrible she was to you. I remember those years i think you were there around her. I am appalled that no mature grown up saw what the hell she was doing or what she was. For years i was haunted by flashes in my head the first time I saw her coming out
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mental health professionals will tell you there is > an inner self that is deep and private. A normal > person keeps this place secret and private. It is > very unhealthy to expose this place to another > human. > > But the Living Word demands that you open it up > and give it all. You a
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