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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Today I found out that Naboth has a website entitled: The Truth About The So Called Most Powerful Move Of God In The Earth Today. He has posted a commentary about the pastor of the Lighthouse. Here is the link, and scroll down to "THE EVIL WRITINGS OF ROB SCRIBNER" headline. Naboth seems to have current information about their activities worldwide.
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Another Naboth story about Toppin: I've just read an old post from a U.K Potters House member who contacted The Cracked Pots site. Right up until the end I thought I knew who it was but it turned out not to be that person. However the post did remind me of one of my more unusual moments in the Potters House. Several years ago I went with a friend to a bowling alley. The alleys wer
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Naboth was a former member of Toppin's cult church, The Potter's House. Here is another post about the insane pressure he puts on to his church members: Over the years I've heard some perversities of legalists who twist what a relationship with Jesus is all about but this one I am going to share with you comes close to Toppin' it {excuse the pun} My old pastor Ernie T
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
I just found out that Lighthouse is having Ernie Toppin for a revival this week. He is a another Wayman Mitchellite evangelist. Here is a interesting post I found about Toppin on the Yahoo Groups message boards. This post is by a former member and he writes about Toppin's vision he had from God about being in hell and seing a man shot by a demon with "poo" coming out of the bu
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
The other day I was talking to Jane Doe, and we came to the conculsion that Scribner strategically uses shame and guilt to keep them chained to the church. Jane says he learned this from Wayman Mitchell and Harold Warner. She said whenever they came to the church, they would preach that you had to be at all the church services, all the revivals, all the prayer meetings to prove that you are a rea
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
"Jane Doe" called me a few minutes ago. She said that Scribner recently preached a men's meeting at the church and told the men that they should not seek out any advice from women becuase they are stupid. Unbelievable. Keep writing Foursquare.
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Here are a few web sites that discuss the Mitchell group that Lighthouse is aligned with. Please read the visitor comments about the Mitchell group here at Rick Ross' site. After reading the comments, I felt even more convinced that this group is cultic.
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Free Agent & Doubtful One, Thanks for the update. A sad state of affairs to see this happen. What are people thinking? Oh yea, all their thinking has been done for them. I will ponder the petition idea around and figure out the best way to do it. Keep up the good work guys and help expose the darkness. Have a good weekend. TS
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Frank, Thank you for making even more clearer the picture of Foursquare's history with Mitchell and Scribner. This information is hard to come by from the average Lighthouse church member. I have been reading the Yahoo Group, Esacpe From the Fellowship and there are lots of messages about Mitchell and Foursquare there. I am getting quite an education there. You bring up a good point a
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
I have found more people to write in Foursquare who are overseers of Rob Scribner and the Lighthouse church. Special thanks to "Jane Doe" for her help. Jack Hamilton, paaland@kingsseminary.edu - Phone: 818-779-8115 Fax: 818-779-8511. I am told this is Scribner
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Free Agent, I glad to hear about the spiritual restoration of this former Lighthouse member. It is always good to hear when one comes back to the Lord. I respect your decision about not writing Dr. Hayford about Rob Scribner's shameful behavior. And yes, ultimately it is in God's hands. However, I will continue what I believe is God's will to put pressure on Foursquare
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Free Agent, Nitedork, Naboth and Doubtful One: Thank you for posting all your experiences and information about Lighthouse and Rob Scribner. I want to encourage you all to write Dr. Hayford and let him know your stories. Also, I want anyone who has had any experience with Wayman Mitchell and it's fellowship of pastors to write Dr. Hayford too. Dr. Jack Hayford 1910 W. Sunset Blvd.
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Also, I bet Scribner never even thinks the same thing could happen to him too. Of course not! Cold hearted and impish men like him and Mitchell could care less how they hurt a widower. Anyone who has more information about how Scribner destroyed Schmidt please write Dr. Hayford and tell him what you know. Expose the fiendish acts of this imposter of a "pastor". Dr. Jack Hayford
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
QuoteFree AgentJust here to say Wayman mitchell Is not The Main reason behind john's leaving the church. Ive seen the damage Michell causes first hand. But it was The pack of wolves in the Lighthouse that caused this. Hello Free Agent, Thank you for posting the information about what Rob Scribner has done to John Schmidt. From what I have heard from multiple sources, is that Mitch
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
In the book, The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse the writers talk about the way manipulative church leaders use paranoia to keep people oppressed and attached to the church. They develop an us versus the world mentality and take it to the point that a person's life is in danger if they are sucked into the world and it's thinking. This kind of thinking can also be portrayed about other
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
I turned on the news today and found out that Mormon polygamist leader Warren Jeffs was arrested last night. One of the main points the broadcaster made about Jeffs cultic behavior was that he arranged marriages and really had people underneath his control. Jane Doe told me about Scribner and how he would ask single men which women they liked in the church and he would try to arrange a hook u
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Over the last couple of weeks I have been in contact with a former Foursquare pastor. When I told him of my experience at the Lighthouse, he knew about it and said that many pastors/leaders in the denomination knew what was going on in there. Little could be done unless the church members spoke up to Foursquare and insisted that they do they do something. Unless that pastor is committing a crime
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Rob Scribner is promoting a crusade that Wayman Mitchell is having in Oceanside this weekend. Supposedly Mitchell heals people through his prayers a la Benny Hinn.
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
It is amazing to see all the page views on this thread alone. Over 2100 page views the last 30 days. There must be a lot of people interested in what Rob Scribner is up to at the Lighthouse. I will post more information as it comes in.
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Got word today that the Lighthouse has lost another long term family of the church. It is a large family of 11. They are moving to Texas. The husband was a church council member for a number of years. There aren't too many details the reason why they are leaving, but I was told that in the past they wanted to move to Texas and they had counselled with Rob and he told them they couldn'
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Just visited the Lighthouse's web site today. They are having revival this week with Fred Rubi. I heard that Rubi was Wayman Mitchell's assitant pastor in Prescott for a couple of years. He is now a traveling evangelist for Mitchell. Scribner just can't get enough of Mitchell.
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
I had a great conversation today with Jane Doe. She explained to me the Scribner doctrine of "spiritual adultery". Until today, I had never heard of this term. Spiritual adultery is when you leave the Lighthouse and go to another church. You become an adulterer. Jane told me that Scribner uses this doctrine to scare people into staying in the church. He does this behind the pulp
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
One of the pastors at The Lighthouse Church is Harrison Sommer. He is not a full time pastor at the church, he is a personal injury attorney who is a partner of Burgland, Johnson and Sommer in the San Fernando Valley. Sommer is like Ed McMahan, he introduces Scribner before he preaches. It always was kind of weird that he would do this when you have the same people at almost every service. DUHHHH
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
WOW! Over 6000 page views! Who is reading this board? Rob Scribner? Harrison Sommer? You think nobody reads this do you "Pastor Rob"? People are reading this - people in your church! They know that Mitchell's fellowship is no different than Hamas or Hezbollah. You are supporting spiritual terrorists who misuse the Bible for their own personal gain and who uses fear an
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Wow, thank you for filling us in what happen this past weekend. If you have anymore information, please post it here. I would like to know more about Bill Neil. Can you fill me in? I am going to be out of town for a while. I will check this board from time to time. "Jane Doe" promised to call me if she had any thing new, and if I can, I will post it. Truth Seeker
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
I spoke with "Jane Doe" today about the current news at Lighthouse. The pastor who left is John Schmidt, who started the affiliate church in Hesperia, California about 15 years ago. His wife had been very ill with cancer for many years and had passed away in late 2005, leaving behind John and two children. According to Jane, the standard practice of the Mitchell cult is that if a
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
I got a short voice message from "Jane Doe" today on my cellphone. She said that a Ligthhouse pastor has resigned from his church and has left the whole fellowship movement. She will call me with more information later. If anyone knows anything more, please post. I have notice that there have been over 3200 page views of this particular message thread. There must be a lot of p
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Hello, That is a funny nick name. The information that you have found is very interesting. I do not know who Scott Lamb is. I never heard of the Lamb family. Were they members of Lighthouse in the past? How does Rob Scribner fit into this picture? You have now brought up more questions to my mind. Maybe you can enlighten us some more? A Truth Seeker Quotenitedorktruth seeker.
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
"Unspoken Rules" are what keep people in fear and trapped in abusive churches. These "rules" are things like, "Don't speak against the church", "Don't speak against the pastor", "Don't fellowship with other Christians or churches" etc. Now, these rules may not be said in this direct kind of fashion, but, you will hear things from t
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14 years ago
A Truth Seeker
Today I received the letter that I wrote about in my last post from Jane Doe. This letter was a response to members who wanted the church to be separated from Wayman Mitchell's group. Jane said this letter was delivered to church members in early July 2002. Here it is: * * * The Lighthouse Church Our church has just been put through a very difficult and divisive time. The difficult
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