TPCWOC Home Web site seems to be down or missing today! Whats going on? Maybe its my computer or it could be the next cover up hide and spin cult tactic! Maybe they our putting make-up on the Web site to make it look like a new fresh start now that all the leaders are leaving the state.
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QuotemisleadsoulHumm... So things have gotten interresting at TPC, this will be Pastor Jeff's last month as pastor, as he mentioned in today's service, and the new elders board is to take care of all until a new pastor is found? How are they determining who's going to be "The right fit?" Is this even Biblical? It just makes me wounder, no apologies? Of course not they nev
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Quotetell the truthYou could have said all of those factors you list M&M about Mike Villamore. Every single one of them. While the church may submit financial reports to the denomination, they have never informed their church body about the finances. Not while my family attended there. Aaron Thompson is not a wise man. He is a good person, but he has no discernment. There have been peopl
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QuoteM&MI wanted to respond to a post. Tell the Truth says: Marysville New Life has NO accountability for the leaders or the pastor. While they are nice people, the church is run based upon who is popular with the pastor making all the decisions with people he likes. There is no church body input or voting. The elders are hand picked by the pastor. They are also looking at becoming &quo
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QuotemisleadsoulHum... how to begin? To be dreadfully honest I am stuck. I have grown up in the church all my life and visited every church possible in washington state. I don't know if my problem is just church or the people in the church, but I can't bring myself to ever trying to join a church. Everything I have seen is manipulative, self seeking, money hungery, lieing,selfserving ch
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QuoteTurningPointRejectQuotejesuschristismydelightD od D: Were funds taken out of the Stewardship Campaign for Cindy and the worship team to cut their CD? Were funds taken out of these same monies to pay Mike's severance pay? I don't know if this is rumor or not that funds submitted to him was $100K. Did not see these line items on your detailed accounting sheet? God Bless.
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QuotenooneofanyimportenceQuoteTurningPointRejectThis is the most recent tweet from Mike Villamor's Spiritual Son: "Great churches are not built on the gifts and talents of a few, but on the sacrifices of many!" Those of you who gave to the building fund: "Thank you for your sacrifice. Love Ya, Mike. PS The weather is great down here in Texas" Hey Jeff, The
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QuotemisleadsoulWell all of this is new to me. I just realized that most of my life has been controlled and I have been mislead by pastors and leaders who call themselves men and women of God. The idea of being in a cult is scary to me. I had attended TPC for a few years and had realized that what had been taught there was affecting my walk with Christ. I also lost a very close relationship to
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How does someone become an elder at TP? ( you become a good butt kisser and a good brown noser) How are they removed? ( they are removed only after there lips and nose are worn out, other wise its a lifetime appointment) Is there any meaningful financial transparency? ( only in the eyes of the butt kisser and Pastor Jeff) How much salary and compensation is Pastor Jeff paid? ( Pa
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jesuschristismydelight ask us: One question I have is: I believe all of you prayed to the Lord prior to giving your funds to the Stewardship Campaign. If the Lord laid it on your heart to give including the amount you were to give; were you not giving it to Him. Therefore, why would you want it back. You honored the Lord by giving it to Him. Please clarify. ( I gave money to the Stewardship Ca
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Turning Point Elders Chris Johnston Ken Hale Wendi Davis Dan Crawley David Rech David Scarth Wayne Hageman (There seems to be a person missing from the deacons list from the ten , also under(common interest groups) Marketplace Ministry it seems that the directors picture and information is missing!)
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Dave Luster says he is sorry about the drink for drink event during his vision cast sermon. He said the only thing he is sorry about is that he rush into it . And Dave said some people had a hard time with it. Dave blames his decision on having the Drink to drink event on his quest to get rid of the religious spirit that he has had problems with. Dave says he has been swinging the hammer at the
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QuotejesuschristismydelightThis my opionion about the Stewardship Campaign: I only gave a small donation once because I never felt right about the whole thing. Too many pastors without wisdom are spedning their time building their own material brick and stone temples and, in the process, wounding and scattering sheep and neglecting the true temple, the one not made with human hands. The stupi
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Kairos: Becoming An Expert Builder Sunday, January 23, 2011 Pastor Jeff Barnes - God isn't only concerned with what we build but also with how we build it. Today is about tuning your ears to hear your shepherd. (Yip,Yip,Yip) Listen to todays message as we continue in the book of Nehemiah and learn how God is calling you to be an expert builder. Jeff shares about how Jesus said "on t
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QuotejesuschristismydelightI have gone to TP for quite some time. I too saw the abuse of authority, the faith movement (health and wealth) false doctrine enter in and various programs keeping people so busy that they were losing their love for God. They were in the wrong field and the harvest yielded smaller fruit. They were trying to do things in their own strength rather than God's stren
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New Elder selection Dan Crawely I believe was trying to defend false Apostle Mike on his facebook in Jan 2010 by posting a article Truth or Tradition " What is a Apostle? It was a lenghty article and at the bottom of the article was written to fit Mike perfectly.(Apostles are not supermen. They are human like everyone else, and they must work to develop spiritual fruit like any other believe
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TPCWOC sermon for Sunday Jan 16th, 2011 " Now is the Time to plan for Success" by Jeff (I have a plan for you)Barnes is now online. Jeff says everyone is somewhere and Jeff guarantees you we be somewhere 10 or 20 years from now.If you end up somewhere with out purpose we will lose ground and its like going down a dead end street. If you keep going to TPCWOC and keep listening to Jeff( I
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TPC Business Meeting 12:45 PM to 2:00 PM TPC Business Meeting Jan 23rd 12:45 to 2:00pm Main Campus For Regular attenders We will be covering the fallowing topics: * Elder Ratification * Vision for 2011 (Will the current Elders be stepping down?)
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The letter the Elders and Jeff Barnes posted looks like it worked . They will be meeting with other churches for the Mens Ministry get together. Why have we not seen any change of Elders? I have so many questions about false Apostle Mike running and hiding to another part of the country. I ran into a TP person the other day and the person seemed to come off as " I am holier" than you
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Why would a person want to be and elder or deacon at TPCWOC after all the spiritual abuse? How come we have not seen new elders or deacons? As we close in on 150,000 views would it be a good thing to have a Forum get together!
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Update : TPCWOC Home web site under : Elders / Deacons Turning Point deacons went back up to ten, I believe two are missing!
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TPCWOC Home Web Site Under : Elders / Deacons Turning Point deacons are down to nine, I believe three are missing!
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We could get Jesse Jones on the case! We also gave to the posessing the land for a few years at TPCWOC and wrote on our check every month our amount to be given to the( building fund) posessing the land. Contact KING 5 News Get Jesse Jones Send E-mail: getjesse@king5.com Phone: 1-877-51-JESSE (1-877-5
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Recent Sermon title 78102410 Beauiful feet "The only thing that matters" wk4 around the 31min mark. Dave Luster has a temper tantrum about a negative email from a pastor about his drink for drink invent. Whats a matter Dave the truth hurts and you can not handle churches that disagree with you. Get drunk for Jesus and maybe you can get a DWI on the way home. Dave your anger problem d
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I believe Dr. Increase ( Bob Harrison) was in town last month at TPCWOC MarketPlace Ministry over at the casino, for those who still believe in his teaching I found this testimony on line, Also I still see City Church still having a influnce on TPCWOC members and still has a pastor from there on the board of directors of there fake bible college, I found this testimony online: Ex-Word of Fa
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Ex-Word of Faith Testimony of Pastor John Edwards (Junker Jorge) Special thanks go out to MKayla for transcribing this video. She did a great job JOHN EDWARDS TESTIMONY: Hey guys! My name is John Edwards. I’m a Rhema Graduate. I went to Rhema Bible Training Center in 96-98 and I was ordained by Kenneth Hagin and came to Alabama, started a church called The Edge then we changed the nam
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I was wondering also who makes up the advisory board. Is it a hand picked group of deacons and pastors? Is anybody on the forum on the advisory board? I listened to Jeff Barnes sermon from last Sunday on Transformed through Trials and thought it was one of his better sermons. But at the end of his sermon Jeff says " God says we are like a flock of sheep, and you know what happens, if you get
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I am afraid that false Apostle Mike Villamor is a bigger thief and liar then we first believed. And Jeff Barnes is still protecting him while false Apostle Mike hides somewhere in another state. Was there real repentance from Jeff and Kim? Was there more cover ups? Why is Jeff and Kim afraid to reveal the truth? What else are they hiding? Will we ever know the truth?
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TPCWOC Home web site:under staff: Stephanie Richmond picture is missing so it must be that she is no longer the Worship Director
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