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14 years ago
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TPCWOC Letter of Reconciliation has been removed from TPCWOC home web site. Under Elders it reads: Turning Point is an Elder-led Christian church. Recently, an advisory team and a leadership consultant have come along side the Elder board to provide fresh perspective and insight. What kind of fresh perspective and insight was given Jeff Barnes? Was Jeff told to be completely honest and o
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14 years ago
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Word Faith: What's wrong with the Word Faith Movement? CP1100 THE WORD FAITH MOVEMENT- Introduction Many popular evangelists are involved with “Positive Confession” or the “Word-Faith” movement. What’s wrong with this movement? THE WORD FAITH MOVEMENT- Televangelists Some of America’s best known televangelists subscribe either partly or wholly to what’s commonly referred to as “positi
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14 years ago
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Turning Point Skagit Valley Bulliten for Sept 19th shows that the women of Dave Lusters church will be going to Caset Treats Christian Faith center fo the womens conference Oct 6-8th. Casey Treat is clearly a Word-Faith movement false Teacher. Some of the Word- Faith Movement doctrines have came from Christian science. Alot of the Word-Faith movement rock stars like to speak at Casey Treats Chri
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC sermon for Sunday Sept. 19th by Jeff Barnes is now online. Awaken :Creativity. Last Sunday was Awaken courage. Jeff has his courage now and he is going to have more creativity. Jeff says, God does not want to control you. He is not a controlling God with his thumb on you. God does not shove you in this box and this is who you are going to be. God wants to liberate you. He wants to free
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14 years ago
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My thoughts, insight on the letters is that there is no comparision. Evidentally Jeff's consultant taught him how to say he's sorry without really saying he is sorry. I wish I could just let everything go, but I have a hard time with patience. I'm just afraid that since he can't just come out and say what false doctrines he's sorry for that maybe he's not really s
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14 years ago
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I am in for giving them a chance. My 400 plus post have taken a toll. Not only on TPCWOC but on myself. I feel like its about time to move on. This kind of stuff wears you down. I hope and pray that they get there act together and I can get my act back together. The reason I left TPCWOC was because of false doctrine and felt betrayed by the leadership. The God who created the universe and parted
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14 years ago
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Jeff Barnes sermon is online now. We live in the age of fear.Jeff said he is preaching to himself today. If we make decisions out of fear it is not the Holy Spirit. If you are shaking in your boots, you still do what is right even if you don't feel like it. Jeff says that Christianity is not a safe place and its not fun to be safe. Am I living or making this decision out of fear or courage.
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC Home web site see bulletin: PNBC (SOMA) Worship Intensive Sept 24-25 ( PNBC still has students!) Feature Guest Speaker Melissa Cordell graduate of Bill Johnsons Bethel Church School of Supernatural Ministry in Redding ,CA. Bill Johnsons Bethel church emphasis on signs and wonders. Will Melissa be bringing gold dust or angel feathers in her suit case? Does TPCWOC want to be a Mega church
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14 years ago
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Dear Weasels and Slanders in Christ, I am writing this letter on behalf of myself and the elders of Turning Point Church. The purpose of this letter is to cause some more wrong actions and attitudes that may have impacted you. It is with a heartless heart that we speak of these failures, and ask for your grace and forgetfulness as we work to hide and address these issues and continue in t
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC Official Twitter Site: Please take a moment to read this letter of reconciliation from Pastor Jeff and the Elders : September 9,2010 Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I am writing this letter on behalf of myself and the elders of Turning Point Church. The purpose of this letter is to make right some wrong actions and attitudes that may have impacted you. It is with a heavy hea
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC home web site: MarketPlace Ministry and false prosperity positive confession word-faith movement speaker, teacher, directors picture has been removed from the TPCWOC web site under Ministries
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14 years ago
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Week 5 July 18th Live free series Dave Luster puts the Gag order in place at the 19:15min to the 22min mark then picks it up again at the 34:45 mark, Dave repents for bad mouthing Joel Osteen , then at the end of the sermon he sounds just like him, Dave reminds me of his spiritual father false Apostle Mike Villamor,the more he talks the more goofy he gets, Dave says that there will be a special p
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14 years ago
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(Dave Luster will do anything to bring more victims into the cult!) A day of celebration as we officially open the new worship center! This day will feature great additions to our normal Sunday services including plenty of activities for the whole family. Mark it on your calendars today. Special Prize giveaways include a $200 voucher to Triumph Tattoos, $50 Red Robin Cert, $50 to Blue Fo
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14 years ago
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I agree, we will see what happens. I will try and give Jeff and Kim Barnes grace and mercy. I hope and pray for good to come out of this whole mess!
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14 years ago
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Is Undercover part of the Cannon of Scripture? How about Joe Prince? Are his writings part of the cannon of scripture? Don't you subscribe to the idea of extra-revelation? Do you have "prophets and apostles" running and dancing in your midst declaring they have "received a Word from God?" Did you not lift Tony up as an Apostle? Did you not lift Mike up as an Apostle
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14 years ago
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Grace and love and forgiveness do NOT mean that we all just sit back and assume that everything is better now, b/c M&C are gone. I don't know about meetings and repentance. Like I've said over and over again, from my perspective, it looks as though things continue to be covered up. But, IF J&K are serious about making the changes necessary to *fix* this, then they are going to h
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14 years ago
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I believe Jeff Barnes said he would be addressing the issues in the next couple weeks! So we will see!
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14 years ago
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Can we trust Jeff Barnes or is he just trying to please everybody because of all the pressure of the news on the forum. Jeffs back is against the wall. He is in a corner and is trying to find a way out. The money paid for false Apostle Mike to leave town was not good , but he is gone now and that is a good thing. Do we stop the pressure on Jeff now and give him time? No, not with the past history
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC Sermon for Sunday Sept 5th is now online at TPCWOC home web site under LOVE (might be) is in the HOUSE by Pastor Jeff R Barnes ( the R does not stand for Rock anymore) Jeff makes an in house statement. Jeff says there is business we are taking care of and that we are a great church, but not a perfect church.I will be making some very serious announcements to the church body about things t
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC face book did in fact delete the true comment because it was up there last night.(The first thing I think of is the lies and deception along with the judgment and condemnation.) Koolaid drinker Shaun said in reply to the post before it was deleted: Darrel why are you a "friend" if your gonna write junk like that on here? What ever you do don't say anything
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC official twitter site with link to TPCWOC face book: Dear friends, we love our Church... When you think of how God has transformed your life at TPC, what's the first... TPCWOC face book link, one person says: The first thing I think of is the lies and deception along with the judgment and condemnation.
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14 years ago
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Dave Lusters semon Live Free WK 9: 40 min mark Dave shares the Turning Point Church evangelism strategy, Dave says he wants the people who attend his church to smile and laugh more. Dave says that they scowl too much and Dave wants his church to be a happy church. Why are your people so sad? Now they can put on their fake plastic smiles and laugh their heads off. Maybe you can start a Holy la
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14 years ago
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Joseph Prince - Antinomian Megastar and Teacher of Lawless Grace Entering the local Koorong Christian bookstore yesterday, I immediately noticed a book with an attractive looking young Asian man on the cover. The picture was of Joseph Prince, the title of the book, "Destined to Reign", and the subtitle went as follows: "The secret to effortless success, wholeness and victorious li
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14 years ago
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Dave Luster has most of all his sermons online now and I listen to freedom series week 6. Dave says that Joseph Prince book "Destined to Reign" has led him to the bible more then any other book. Daves whole freedom series was base on this book. Dave says that the second largest church in the northwest also is teaching from this book. But Dave says he won't tell us what church. I be
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14 years ago
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I want my money back that we gave to the building fund! Where is the money? Do you remember when false Apostle Mike said in front of the church said that they where having trouble meeting payroll and that he figured out how to cover it. Do you remember when Mike said he gave thousands of dollars to help Dave Lusters Church, Skagit Valley Turningpoint Church. Do you remember when Mike decided to g
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14 years ago
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Rick Lewis I just want to thank you for the courage to stand up for truth. Feel free to private e-mail me and I would love to meet with you over coffee. You are free now and you may experience the same hurts as alot of us have. Let me know if I can help. I have always seen you as a really nice guy. I will be praying for you and your family. I hope that your relationship with the Lord will grow no
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14 years ago
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I forgive Rick Lewis 100% and will be praying for his family. I would love to have Rick share his story on the forum. I think it would be beneficial to the healing process. Rick could give us some insight into the current leadership views on the false doctrines like prosperity word-faith movement etc. I can only think of to reasons why Jeff Barnes would not denouce the false doctrines like word-
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC bulliten for this weekend shows TP is still promoting false prosperity word-faith movement wanna be speaker Ken Ralston at the Tulalip Casino Resort on Tuesday making the TP young adult group unlimited go to the show. I guess TP didn't denouce that false teaching. By having unlimited go to the Excelerate motivational power to produce wealth show by the next great rock star Ken Ralston
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14 years ago
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TPCWOC Home web site under sermons; It appears that all of false Apostle Mike Villamor and Cyndi's sermons have been removed from the TPCWOC home web site. Also the picture of the womens ministry director is removed. But the picture of the false teacher of Marketplace ministry is still up!
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14 years ago
buddy
Does all this bad news mean I won't be getting my ( I am sorry) phone call from Jeff Barnes?
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