Quoteorangeperuviscachai think that giving your friend such a present on their 'birthday' would most likely make your friend distance themself from you mentally if not physically. leftcoast, My experience with my loved one would have me concur with orangeperuviscacha. I have given some (but not a lot) reading material to my friend, in hopes that something other than me (it was clear
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QuoteskepticWhat disturbs and horrifies me is that LGAT "thinking" and jargon have greatly seeped into and contaminated society at large. I see evidence of it in sooooo many places. An interesting exercise is to go out to places like Yahoo Groups and type in Landmark (I would expect Lifespring and others to be similarly true). Besides being struck by the large number of hits, peruse t
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QuotenutrinoSo you see the philosophic train wreck approaching ? I do see it approaching, and in the life of my friend I have heard the sound and seen the carnage. But it's coming on a larger scale as well -- that's what I find intriguing about how many are creating similar realities. The link with alternative medicine is a necessity. They are "creating" an alternative e
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QuoteorangeperuviscachaGreetings, I came across a large ad in the weekend paper for a weekend seminar about how to break through to wealth. . . i wonder if there may be some common LGAT manipulations as part of the seminar. Greetings to you orangeperuviscacha! I've never been to one of these (my BS detector goes off too loud), but I think you have found an LGAT of sorts here. There are
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QuoteHopeYou might want to investigate whether Landmark has a very strong presence on campus at some of the alternative medical education campuses . . . . Hello Hope, It's interesting you mention the alternative med link with Landmark. That is the biggest drive in my Lekkie friend's life right now, and it really fits the overall theme. I'd appreciate your posting any other inf
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Hi leftcoast, Welcome to this forum. You have found probably the best support group for those with friends and loved ones in LGATs that is out there. Your story is repeated many times here. What you're going though is very frustrating and sad. I'm glad you came here and shared your story. Your friend is reaching "critical mass" in Landmark and is probably now immune
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nutrino, I appreciate your NLP input into these discussions. Word triggers really are a big thing in LGATs. I'd like to know more. Do you have some specific titles you'd suggest reading to: 1. get a intro/overview of NLP and 2. see how it is applied in mind control / influence, etc. Thanks in advance. -lightwolf
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QuoteEther DragonShe assumes that she is smart enough to dismiss any of the "programming" they might throw at her . . . . She resents my "lack of trust in her" - meaning that my lack of faith in Landmark indicates a lack of faith in her. I spent some time with my friend this weekend and heard this same thing as I brought up some of the dangers I see in the New Age activies
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Quotemidonov123Would you say that, if someone is doing the RELATIONSHIP SEMINAR is in a relationship with someone who is reluctant to participate and do the LF, the participant will be told to accept his/her partner "as is", which means "refuse to talk about the real problems" because after all it's a "Potentially Endearing Quality"(!?). ? Hi Mike, Your questio
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Quotemidonov123Does anyone knows what are the basics of the RELATIONSHIP SEMINARS. Hi midonov, I don't know the basics of the Relationship seminar per se, but I have some secondhand knowledge. The basic teaching seems to be "accept your partner as they are", which seems good at the surface, but I think they subtly add things to this that make it not so good. My gf was big on t
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QuoteelenaSome of the old timers talk about the "desensitization" practices they had to endure during the "Advanced" course where they are surrounded with the most vile pornographic images during lengthy lectures. This is meant to degrade the idea of sex into another "empty & meaningless" event so that it can be re-formed or ~transformed~ into the Landmarkia
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QuotetywebbIt's like something is being dragged away from you and there's not a damned thing you can do about it. Something is being dragged away -- the soul of someone we care about. It is very sad. When I read the stories of those who have lost loved ones to Landmark, including my own, I'm reminded of C.S. Lewis in The Screwtape Letters: "An ever increasing craving for a
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Quotemidonov123I want to add that this is another blantant example where landmark's philosophy breaks up relationships. I also think it is intentional on Landmark's part. Such "interfaith" relationships with someone outside Landmark are a threat to their control of the inductee/believer. Landmark hides their desire for power by encouraging the New Age pursuit of celebration
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QuoteEther DragonDivorce doesn't scare me - leaving her in the hands of Landmark does. Hi Ether Dragon, As hard as it is to hear, you can't take her out of Landmark. You can only show her the way. Whether she stays in the hands of Landmark is, at the end of the day, up to her. My first of two replies to your post yesterday didn't show up for me until this morning, so you
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Ether Dragon, A couple of follow-up points. I just noticed that your post was on a thread I started, so it might be helpful to provide an update on my own situation. I have maintained a friendship with my friend, and have taken the advice of others I found here as far as first establishing a safe place for her to be -- able to share her thoughts with me, non-judgmental, etc. It seems unfr
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Ether Dragon, Sorry to hear about what happened with your wife. This is very sad and your feelings/reaction are normal. It sounds like your wife is still on the initial "high" from the Forum, and this will be an exciting time for her and a difficult time for you. It's like a drug and they don't want to let go of it and right now Landmark can do no wrong. She has a coach
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Rmorgan, No, she doesn't get into spirituality. Wiser Aussie gives a pretty good summary. I'd add only that she gives some examples of how the cult techniques are used to recruit and some examples of cases brought against specific LGATs that describe some of the damage done. The chapter on intrusions into the workplace is especially good, as this is something few people think abou
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Thank you MaidSauron for telling us your story. I can feel the pain behind the words. You are the one who is truly enlightened. Unforturnately, your friend chose to shut out that light. You may have found, as I have, that there is comfort here. Your friend was lucky to have you as long as he did. -lightwolf
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QuoteConcerned OzI pass to her a document written by a local Uniting CHurch Minister explaining how the philosophy of Landmark is about "being God", creating all possibilities. Oz, Would you be willing to e-mail me this document? I can't pm you because of my newness on the board. I appeciate your transparent posts on many threads here. You've been through the whole pr
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Thanks for the reply MD, I appreciaate it. I'm glad to hear you found someone truly authentic and extraordinay. I wish the same for myself. Quotemidonov123They are very good at making you feel guilty about your own attitude Yes they are -- it would be funny if it wasn't so destructive for them. Your message is one I need to keep infront of me to avoid the trap of "savin
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I duplicated my reply -- see my next post. Sorry!
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Hello everyone, this is my first post. I've been reading many of your posts and there is a lot of good information here. I am grateful -- just wish I had found it sooner! I've been reading a lot - read Singer's work, other websites, even read Erhard's biography to look at the seed this came from. I'm trying to get as educated as I can. All of it has been helpful.
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