There needs to be a lot more research done into looking at Steve Hardison, and Steve Chandler He is also linked with Stephen Mitchell. QUOTE: “Dear Steve, Thanks from both of us from the bottom of our hearts. You are the king of manifestors. Love and gratitude, Stephen (Mitchell)” How much does the Steve Hardison "coaching" cost? $150,000 a year for 100 hrs. Some clien
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Its a family business too, of course, with some of the kids. BK's son Ross Robinson, is getting in on the PR act promoting the huge family business, in a recent interview for Evil Monito Magazine. He's picked up the lingo... "BLOWS MY MIND". oh yes, Byron Katie wants to blow your mind alright. Wash it (Mind-Cleanse), and blow-dry it, even take your mind to the clean
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Its amusing that since the price of that old Byron Katie book A Cry In The Desert was about $150, then someone perhaps had a box of them, and is trying to make some money. They even jacked some up to $280. This is a good metaphor for the Byron Katie sales system. They create false "scarcity" and then jack-up the prices to make as much money as possible. Those books are not worth
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yes, the sugar-stuff is verbal Love-Bombing. There are a lot of love-starved people on this planet, so its another common technique BK uses. Most cultish groups are Love-Bombers. Something about this smacks of another rebranding of Byron Katie. There were 2 other "producers" listed for this film. "Produced by Jenny McCarthy, Stan Kurt and Chelsea Low". So its interes
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scrambledeggs: thx for your perspectives. It can be very helfpul for people still caught up in the Byron Katie mania, to see others who got out, from the inside. How similar is Byron Katie's "performance" at each LGAT seminar she runs? Many of these LGAT's start to sound like broken records for the "volunteers" who have seen the same seminar a few dozens times
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Its interesting how accurate criticism of a guy like RandomStu, gets flipped and deliberately exaggerated into "demonizing" or trying to say RandomStu is in THEIR WORDS a "dangerous predatory guru". Who said that? No one. But again, it points to intellectual dishonesty. RandomStu markets himself as a so-called Gurubuster, which he is NOT. He dishes out criticism of oth
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That is very interesting about the Byron Katie "Curriculum Director" information about Steven Sashen. Even a basic search showed there was no such reference. What's the real story about that? What did Steven Sashen really do for Byron Katie? Why was the Byron Katie information removed from his website? What really happened? Did BKI tell him to take it down? Also, when
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The Byron Katie Thought Police internal-snitching stemming from the new Byron Katie policy, needs clarification. In groups like the Byron Katie group, at a certain point, they forbid members INSIDE the group from criticizing the Leader in ANY way. That has just happened. Now people inside the Byron Katie group start to watch for members who might criticize the Guru, and then snitch to the G
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Quotesolea13Byron Katie quoted by helpme - "A week or so later, as I lay on the floor of my attic room (I felt too unworthy to sleep in a bed)" Really? Byron Katie was so clinically depressed that she felt unworthy to sleep in a bed? And that long-seated, deeply felt emotion of self-disgust completely changed in an instant as soon as the cockroach crawled over her foot? Now she fe
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Hey Jim Dodds, ...why don't you do The Work on your own comments? According to Byron Katie, your comments are really all about YOU, right? According to your own alleged practice of the Work, your thoughts are NOT true, and you should question them, and erase them, and do a turnaround on them, right? So that would make your thoughts...paranoid, angry, defensive, misleading, etc. Right?
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This post by jgf75 needs to be looked at a bit closer, its very revealing. That jgf75 post was addressed here previously, and it is full of errors, with false information about hypnotherapy, and actually serves to expose an agenda. The first question is, who might jgf75 be? Its clearly someone who is doing some spin-doctoring for Byron Katie, as instead of dealing with the careful
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also, one other last thing. Just because someone says they are against the claims that Byron Katie makes about treating mental health issues, etc, doesn't mean they are not a senior BKI person, or someone who does the BK work for a living. Also, the standard method for dealing with critics, is to admit SOME of the criticisms, but deny the most important parts. All they really care is that
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lastly, if anyone EVER tells you, like the above comments from that other forum, that the "Strange Stories" being told to you by some speaker doing expensive LGAT seminars, or some guru, are just a strange way of thinking... Please, please, do NOT trust that person. They are trying to deceive the public. It is a lie, and its a conscious lie. It has to be said as plain as day, the
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also, it needs repetition. Only the most senior people in the BKI org, would really know what is going on. Only the most advanced 'sales' people are aware of most of the precise techniques being used. Most of the other deeply involved people would be almost complete True Believers, who through the tech of Byron Katie, would literally not be able to see the forest for the trees. The
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This is about the posts being made by jgf75 on the guruphiliac forum. jgf75 is just playing word-games with the Ericksonian Hypnotherapy ideas. jgf75 says he is calling these people involved and ASKING them what they are doing! LOL! please, call Stephen Mitchell, Stever Robbins, and Byron Katie and ask them "what they are doing". Man oh man. People try to act so innocent about p
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and of course, RandomStu Stuart Resnick has a blog post on poker and "spirituality", with a deliberately oversimplified poker analogy. Poker Tactics for Spiritual Life . And of course, the requisite position from RandomStu...your Guru is suspicious and has a dark shadow, but my friends anti-guru is wonderful, so let me distract your mental focus from asking tough questions. (p
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and of course, RandomStu Stuart Resnick has a blog post on poker and "spirituality", with a deliberately oversimplified poker analogy. Poker Tactics for Spiritual Life . And of course, the requisite position from RandomStu...your Guru is suspicious and has a dark shadow, but my friends anti-guru is wonderful, so let me distract your mental focus from asking tough questions. (p
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more posts on (Seung Sahn) Kwan Um School of Zen, Stuart Resnick, Stephen Mitchell Byron Katie, Stephen Mitchell, Mu Gak SuNim, Seung Sahn, RandomStu
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Its looks like Seung Sahn and Muktananda were just trying to "diss" eachother and give the other guy a "kick" in an infantile game of one-upmanship. (typical of gurus, who are the supreme narcissists) Its pretty obvious that Seung Sahn was afraid that Muk would make him look like an ignorant, uneducated peasant, so Seung Sahn just says a bunch of nonsense to try and deflect.
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Its looks like Seung Sahn and Muktananda were just trying to "diss" eachother and give the other guy a "kick" in an infantile game of one-upmanship. (typical of gurus, who are the supreme narcissists) Its pretty obvious that Seung Sahn was afraid that Muk would make him look like an ignorant, uneducated peasant, so Seung Sahn just says a bunch of nonsense to try and deflect.
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(repost) manipulative tactics from Stephen Mitchell in email QUOTE: "Dear Janaki, I thought you’d get a kick out of this. Love, Stephen"
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by the way, here is a sure-thing poker bet. See if there is any place, where RandomStu ever admits that Byron Katie uses ANY of the various LGAT Tech she uses. (or Steven Sashen, or Carol Skolnick, for that matter). He's not going to do admit it. He will tap-dance until the Judgement Day, but he will never admit or even acknowledge the LGAT techniques and social influence tech BK uses,
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...its also frankly a shameless bluff by RandomStu, when Stuart Resnick claims to have no real connection with Byron Katie and Stephen Mitchell, when in fact he recommends Byron Katie on his website, with direct links to her videos and blog. RandomStu also links to Carol Skolnick, and also highly recommends Steven Sashen's dubious get-rich-quick schemes, while attacking others get-rich
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Here is a post from Feb 2008, where the manipulative tactics from Stephen Mitchell in email are mentioned again. QUOTE: "The author Stephen Mitchell is her husband. When I was trying to figure out what was happening to me, I contacted Katie with questions. Stephen responded... And let me tell you, his attempts to make me question myself got so ridiculous that I just quit responding to
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just a footnote of CAUTION, about Stephen Mitchell. If anyone has contact with him, by email, or in person at a seminar about any BK problems or issue, please be very very cautious, and very skeptical. You don't know what Stephen Mitchell is really up to, or what he may or may not be doing to you. Stephen Mitchell has been an expert in these areas, since the early 1970's, his e
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by the way, there is a member of the BK inner circle, who sends out emails, posts blogs, and gets personally involved in many aspects of the Byron Katie internet PR machine. His name is Stephen Mitchell. He was even caught posting self PR on his own Wikipedia site. He may have even posted on this forum as a internet sock-puppet in the early days...some clues there involving the Epistemolo
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just wanted to clarify, that this research is being done for the purpose of counteracting the abuses that are occurring to actual people. The enormous mound of factual evidence is there for anyone to see. What is happening, is that there is a small group of people, who are quite skilled at using literally dozens of the most powerful techniques of overt and covert human influence that are avail
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an area that has not yet been researched, is Stephen Mitchell. Time to open that up. After all, right after he joined the BK club, many of the BK prices got jacked-up like crazy, as has been shown. The wikipedia talk page for Stephen Mitchell is interesting, as it shows him trying to edit his own page with his own self-promotional PR statements, and he was chided by several wikipedians for
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Beware the internet sock puppets...when the fire gets too close to home, and their constructed Stories... ;-) over on the Guruphiliac forum, jgf75 is making some interesting comments. jgf75 again wants to continue to create smoke and distraction, by saying that the posters moderate this forum? Are you kidding? People post anything they want, moderation is up to the moderator, not the pos
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a bit of a followup on RandomStu Stuart Resnick which is essential due to RandomStu deliberately inserting himself in the middle of the Byron Katie internet distraction machine...and feigning innocence in a transparent bluff tactic. RandomStu also links to Carol Skolnick's blog (Byron Katie facilitator) And contrary to what RandomStu has said about Seung Sahn's sexual abuses of
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