by the way, if you want to see the way RandomStu really thinks, when he is not bluffing and play-acting deaf, dumb, and blind... have a look at his Poker gambling postings. Yeah...life is just a big highstake poker game of bluffing...and there's nothing sweeter than a table full of patsies. (poker thread) Always raising on button heads-up 20 Mar 2009 by RandomStu Quoteanothe
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Steven Sashen is listed as handling Byron Katie seminar/appearance inquires in Boulder/Denver Colorado at the Westin Westminster, it seems in 2004? There will be an interview with Katie at 8:30 a.m., Wednesday, April 14, on KGNU 88.5 FM. She will speak at 7 p.m., Friday, April 16, at the Westin Westminster...A weekend intensive course will be held at 9 a.m., Saturday and Sunday, April 17-1
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The Stephen Mitchell Wikipedia page is high comedy. The main page does not mention his former wives, and Zen guru's, etc. (the quotes from Seung Sahn from above could all be put into Wikipedia, as they are referenced, as well as Bio listings about his past marriages, etc) It could also list his pubished Zen name... Mu Gak Sunim Mu Gak Su Nim (that supposedly means No-Enlightenment)
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also, it would be wise to make a copy of any important information from the Wayback Machine...as the Wayback Machine will become yet another internet scrubbing BK Washing Machine.
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another thing about RandomStu Stuart Resnick. And these other so-called "Zen" people along these same lines. Their pattern is to try to use their methods of Dharma Combat on people. The problem is, its not done with intellectual integrity, as mentioned by many people. Its literally being poisoned from the Poker-Chess concepts being used. Even RandomStu's speech on YouTube s
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regarding RandomStu, he does not put forward intellectually honest arguments, as noted previously, and as stated by a number of people. Also note, that the analysis of the Byron Katie LGAT seminars in that Guruphiliac forum thread, has been completely disrupted and derailed by the intrusion of RandomStu, exactly like he attempted in this thread. Why is RandomStu pushing himelf in there?
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There are quite a few links with Jack Kornfield and Gurdjieff, and Kornfield does talk about Gurdjieff. and that connects with Michael Katz, who is/was Jack Kornfield's agent, and close associate with Byron Katie. All of these types of guru's, all have backroom "teachings" which they share only with eachother in private, which are very different than the stuff for the pu
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Those few checkable facts would be enough for them to shut their forum down, in case someone in the media saw it. It could be exactly like the Neale Donald Walsch plagiarism and literary fraud expose' in the NYT. (Anyone with information could contact that same writer with the NYT, Motoko Rich and point out the exact similarities between the books, which could lead to another article.)
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Judy, here is the link to RELEASE OF LIABILITY, THE SCHOOL FOR THE WORK WITH BYRON KATIE and of course the Participant Reports Everyone should carefully study a printed copy of these releases in well in advance. Even before a mere "discussion" about The Work, as that will serve as an enrollment and sales platform. There are disclaimers about injuries, and death. Partici
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this link is very good..people talking about multiple Stories, its exactly what BK does. I invite you to read it now, and you can even now imagine the joy you feel having already read it. Which reminds me of a story, I once knew this very wiseman, and he told me a long story that was told to him by his teacher...but before we get to that... QuoteThe Anticult At that level, they tell "
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time to book a Zen coaching hotline lifelong LGAT seminar session. Some people will bring the Bronx salute, others will bring flexible bamboo Zen sticks. After they voluntarily sign the contracts, where they voluntary admit that any hits by the Zen stick are voluntary and that its all voluntary experiential learning... then its time for a real lie detector test.
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whoops, also forgot to mention, the Zen Master then also has to sign you up to their telephone Zen coaching session, only $150 a half-hour. Guaranteed to create more confusion, lifelong. no refunds, guaranteed. oh, and buy the zen DVD's too. and the CD's. Speaking of Zen sticks, one can think of several uses for a Zen stick, for these anti-Zenites. It would be awesome, to take
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Quotecorboy There is one in which two seekers travel to find a Zen teacher. The ask the old man, 'What is Zen?' The teacher refuses to answer their question, as stated. Instead, he replies, 'I would rather be torn to pieces than darken the mind of a single student.' no no no! The real Zen Master should say... Zen is like a rocket-bicycle to the stars...driven by Mary
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Haven't read the article yet, but just from the low-lites above...these guys are really experts in PR advertising propaganda. But Stephen Mitchell, what a Zen fraud, another abuser of Zen. He, and his group of other anti-Zenites, a bunch of old white dudes trying to make a buck, who try to pretend that wisdom and knowledge are CONTRADICTION and trickery. False. Lies. Deceit. That is
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I Need Your Love - Is That True? (book) in the acknowledgements, she lists as editors... John Tarrant Carol Williams Stephen (The Whiz) Mitchell there is a deeper connection with John Tarrant, Michael Katz, Stephen Mitchell, and these various so-called "Zen" groups, which are almost like some type of Zen mafia. They are also obviously connected with the Kwan Um School of Z
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QuoteCruzA friend of mine who frequently visits Byron Katie’s Institute For The Work Forum brought the following to my attention. A few days ago someone quoted some info from your site regarding the true origin of Byron Katie’s ‘Tao book’. This contribution turned out to be the last entry on the ‘open’ forum. About an hour later the forum was closed “in order to better serve" the visitors.
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its interesting having a glance at the Guruphiliac thread about Byron Katie. Its the most active thread there, approaching 20% of all the posts in that forum. The original poster in that thread, posted some obviously honest, and thus very damaging information about the Byron Katie LGAT seminar. Even though they don't appear to have much experience with LGAT seminars, and were just repor
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how about a Cheech & Chong bong reference! ;-) like my momma always said... ...never believe aging white dudes with fake names, wearing fake Zen costumes, with large beards to hide their poker-face, who tell you to mindlessly paint the Golden Gate Bridge forever. But to be balanced to the Guruphiliac, at least he did state that the Byron Katie people are his friends, as opposed to Resn
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People have wondered what the deal is with RandomStu Stuart Resnick. Its very clear, that to him, life is literally a living game of poker/chess. Under the cover of that ugly brand of so-called "Zen" from Seung Sahn and Kwan Um School of Zen, he constantly uses bluffs, tricks, covert strategy, misdirection, and multiple conflicting lies, to try to win his hand, and turn it to his own ad
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These are some of the actual title words Stuart Resnick RandomStu uses to describe himself... < Zen. Chess. Poker. Gurus. Strange Trips. Mind-altering substances > There you have it. Poker: gambling, games where bluffing, deceit, and lying are the highest virtue. (being an expert liar in the bluff is the greatest skill in poker, to keep them off balance, so you can take the pot on a
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RandomStu Stuart Resnick, is at it again. Right after a few thoughtful people were intelligently discussing what happened at the Byron Katie School for Decompensation... RandomStu arrives, and seems to have succeeded in his objective, to disrupt the conversation to such a degree, as to destroy it. You will notice RandomStu's technique is the same, to deflect, distract, bully, and dis
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RandomStu Stuart Resnick, is at it again. Right after a few thoughtful people were intelligently discussing what happened at the Byron Katie School for Decompensation... RandomStu arrives, and seems to have succeeded in his objective, to disrupt the conversation to such a degree, as to destroy it. You will notice RandomStu's technique is the same, to deflect, distract, bully, and dis
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also, have a look at some of the emails from Stephen Mitchell that have come out. They are highly manipulative, and even psychologically abusive. His blog posts about the "Glittering Eyes" literally betray the actual techniques they are trying to use on people. as far as the book burning, it was obvious those books were bought back and destroyed systematically, as the little crumm
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as far as Stephen Mitchell, there have been several reports that he physically destroyed the existing copies of the Byron Katie books, A Cry In The Desert, and Losing The Moon. (she co-wrote and self-published those books herself). Some were somewhat joking when talking about the "burned books" from Byron Katie's hidden past. Well, its no joke. Here is a thread where someone
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thanks for this. These people are just beyond reproach. Why are they trying to crush people's natural minds and thinking processes? Human cognition and consciousness is a wonder of Nature, its the greatest thing in the universe since pop-tarts. So why do they want to crush it? To create obedient followers. Hey, they are allowed to think, and write books, and sell their junk. But not y
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the BKI folks are sending out some troops to do some damage control, (one connected with Stephen Mitchell), from the recent review of the BK LGAT seminar, at the Guruphiliac forum thread. Very clever approach, basically they sing from the BKI songbook...its all Voluntary, which is a meaningless false statement, due to all the covert social manipulation going on. People can be trained in these
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If anyone wondered how they were able to keep the book, A Cry In the Desert by Christin Lore Weber off the shelf, have a look at the copyright. Copyrights in the US can be searched here. you can see that Byron Kathleen Rolle is also the copyright claimant for that book. Wow, it must be hard to be humble, when you get a writer to co-write a book about you, based on her previous concept Womanc
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Good work, anyone can see the techniques and patterns even in this older book. As mentioned in the book, Byron Katie went over literally every word in that book with a fine tooth comb. They are pumping the EYE-GAZING technique even then, as mentioned. That appears to be her primary method. You can see the Suggestions right in the text, framing how people are to interprete her "eyes"
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It would be interesting to find out how many of the Byron Katie senior people and inner circle come from Muktananda and Siddha Yoga, and related groups. Muktananda died in 1982, (he also had connections with Werner Erhard, as well as the cult leader and sex abuser Sai Baba) and it does appear that a significant number of people connected with Muk are connected with the Byron Katie system, and
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