QuotecorboyA small suggestion: Guru apologetics is a rich topic in its own right and deserves a new thread. Discussing Guru apologetics and LGATs on the same thread is like trying to play a football game and a baseball game on the same field. Or like Dr. Phil says..."you can't put feathers on a dog and make it a donkey" :-) I agree we need to stay on-topic. Feel free
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(this is a partial cross-post from another thread, due to the links into the threads, for those coming in from external links. Perhaps any further comments about Jody Guruphiliac should be in this thread, with just a link to the thread?) Jody Guruphiliac is certainly NOT "deluded" about Byron Katie. No, he knows exactly what it is about, in terms of the LGAT. Its pretty clear to
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lastly, Jody Guruphiliac is certainly NOT "deluded" about Byron Katie. No, he knows exactly what it is about, in terms of the LGAT. Its pretty clear to fresh eyes, that jody uses many of the tricks of the trade in his work. But why? who knows. Why do so-called Cult Apologists do their work? Money, beliefs, secret gurus, etc. Some of them are hired and paid by gurus to act in an ar
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QuoteshaktiI posted this on another Byron Katie thread in response to Anti-cult's attacks on Jody Radzik and I will post it here with an addition.. Shakti, not sure why you feel the need to defend Guruphiliac Jody...have you seen the way the guy deals with any marginally critical post on his blog? Just vicious personal attacks, and raging insults the level of a schoolyard. Where is the i
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also, as was mentioned already, jody deliberately distorted Byron Katies claims about God, and being God, and the rest of it. She literally believes she is God. Why did he distort that? Is that right? Is it ok to do that, and not get called-out about it? No it is not. I know the BK people would play word games with it, but she is claiming she is God, in a solipsist sense, and who knows what s
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Shakti, clearly this is an issue of divided personal loyalties. I have stated I am NOT talking about Guruphiliac's entire blog, just this Byron Katie area, which is the current subject. First, using the word shill about Jody the Guruphiliac is wrong? Have you read his blog? That is his favorite word "shill", he calls everyone a shill. So if the shoe fits...he's allowing t
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Quotejj52Anticult, What a loaded conversation that was! Whoo. Where do you find this stuff? First of all, shouldn't the experience this LCSW had with his client be confidential? Why is he sharing this? There is a public thread on the Byron Katie website called EST, Landmark and The Work. That is from the open public thread. Can you imagine how they talk in their closed, private, sen
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Check out yet another creepy and shameless blog entry, this one from Neale Donald Walsch from Conversations with God, about Byron Katie. He "meets" Byron Katie in her "parlor" for a few minutes, and he says falls in love with her. (book cross-promotion and marketing deals speed the love process!). Ya know, these folks just have no shame. Making people think that PRO
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This is a message for any readers of the Guruphiliac blog who might drop into this thread from the link on his blog. There is another thread here which has a lot of information about the alleged conflict of interest concerning Byron Katie and Guruphiliac Jody Radzik, and possibly Steven Sashen. But they refuse to answer questions about this. Steven Sashen involved? but...the verdi
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ok, the verdict is in. Guruphiliac, Jody Radzik, is officially using his blog to shill for Byron Katie LGAT seminars. There are new extensive comments being posted on his blog, by supporters of Byron Katie. Meanwhile serious critics of Byron Katie are censored from posting. Guruphiliac, Jody Radzik has completely discredited himself when it comes to Byron Katie. Must be a fair amount of
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The astounding hypocrisy of Jody Radzik on Guruphiliac when it comes to Byron Katie just keeps going and going... In his blog "comment" area, first he selects whatever comments he wants, and deletes any he does not want to deal with. Then his pre-selected comments, (apparently from his regular readers who are kicking his ass about his blatant hypocrisy around Byron Katie) he rev
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Byron Katie and the dangerous LGAT "PSI Seminars" have assocations. PSI Seminars ______________________ There is also a thread about EST, Landmark and The Work. Notice how they spread the lie that Byron Katie knew nothing before 1986, and the client can see this is bullshit, and they keep pressing the lies at her? Did Byron Katie take her material from EST in 1986?
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by the way, Ralpher, and other BK folks, let me challenge you, just person to person. You have stated your belief that life is about keeping your money and taking others money. So you know the score. Why not cut all the mind-games? Why not just come out, and say what is going on? Just admit if you work for Byron Katie, how much you get paid, if at all. How the persuasion process works.
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What The Ralpher is "bringing up" is that everything is a form of persuasion. Rick Ross comment above covers the entire area in a few words! but basically The Ralpher is tacitly admitting that Byron Katie and her people are professional persuaders, but that we all persuade, so its ok. Its like saying, the banana is persuading me to eat it, that is what Byron Katie is doing.
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also I am truly blown-away by the intelligence, flexibilty of thought and insight from the people in this forum, who are analyzing Byron Katie, and the other LGAT seminar manipulators. Truly amazing. Many hundreds of people, and over time even thousands, will be helped by exposing what is really going on inside the Byron Katie seminars. End the secrecy and conscious deceptions. Maybe even one
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I wonder...does the word "ralpher" have any connection to the Byron Katie vomiting? I'm just saying...to "ralph" is slang for vomiting. It has been mentioned that the Byron Katie groupies "get off" on vomiting, and get Brownie Points for vomiting more, like a severe eating disorder which needs to be treated by a doctor. Does "ralpher" stand for a
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Lordy lordy, its a weird weird world. Did a little searching around about the Guruphiliac, who's name apparently is Jody Radzik. There are a few sites dedicated against him, one of them run by the Sai Baba followers for going after Sai Baba. Then there are endless extreme accusations of every sort on some other blog which is against him. This is a general Google search for Guruphiliac...
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The alleged Guruphiliac, Jody, has made a response about Byron Katie, and it is quite ugly. Comment #15 Guruphiliac's conclusion... BLAME THE VICTIM...of organized systematic thought reform that is founded on extreme deception and manipulation. This guy is supposed to have something to say about these issues? The best he's got is BLAME THE VICTIM? Blame people who are sugg
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jj, you are making some amazing posts, I think you are a genius at figuring out all this stuff from the inside! That is very hard to do, you are fortunate you had enough sense to get out when you did. People get locked into these things for 10 years, even for life. Literally. Now to vomiting. The only way organics would make people vomit, is if it was contaminated with bacteria, as some organ
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one of the interesting things about the comments from the Byron Katie insider at Guruphilia, is that the main defense is that everything that happens is "voluntary". Interesting how that was the exact same thing another poster here named Ralpher said? "Its all voluntary". Why the deceptive response? Were they trained to give that response by Byron Katie? Anyone who ev
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hmm, interesting...there seems to be some connections between a certain "Jody" at Guruphiliac and BK and another guy named Steve Sashen...all mentioned by Cosmic Connie on her blog. "Hey, Steven, I was hoping you wouldn't mind being blue'd...As for my snarking about someone or something you advocated -- specifically, I have made a couple of snide references to Byron
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Yes, The Guruphiliac blog is bending over backwards, forwards, and sideways to try and rationalize what is going on with Byron Katie. Is the Guruphiliac blog allowing all comments, or only approved comments? Is there a conflict of interest there between Guruphiliac and Byron Katie? Who is it that The Guruphiliac is able to instantly call up on the phone and get this wonderful information fr
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Its interesting that the new Byron Katie supporter begins their pre-approved statement with a false statement! "Somehow I landed today on the Rick Ross forum and encountered this thread on Byron Katie..." Is It True? Oh please! Lets cut the crap! :-) The word is getting out on the blogs about these threads, and senior Byron Katie trainers have been personally notified and co
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They know that any group like that is legally obligated to immediately call in the health authorities when there is group vomiting. By not doing so, if it were E Coli and people were seriously injured or died, they could be held liable. What if the non-pastuerized organic juice had deadly botulism, as was in the news recently? They know that a large group like that must immediately report t
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Why wasn't the local health department notified that groups of people started vomiting at the Byron Katie seminar? Everyone who is providing ANY of the food for those Byron Katie events needs to be held accountable for this. Whenever there is any type of group vomiting, the health department needs to be called right away, as it could be E Coli or botulism, and people can die, or be in
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Quoteblammo They were on a limited and restrictive diet; it sounded like calorie deficient and low carbohydrate to keep your brain from functioning properly. All of the men reported zero erectile ability during their stay. They were laughing and joking about it, but I didn't think it was so funny. Either their diet was engineered to limit this ability or potassium nitrate was put into t
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Imagine: over weeks and months, carefully pushing vulnerable wealthy people into a highly suggestible, manic, and even delusional states of mind, starved and hypoglycemic, cell phone cut-off from family and friends, cut-off from contact with spouse, family heirlooms in Byron Katies possession... Then they get really tough, and pull out the big-gun tactics, one on one, person to person. At som
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Its truly unbelievable what is starting to come out about Byron Katie. She has even sent one of her alleged unpaid staff lovinggoonsquad, (who might even PAY to work for her), to mess with people's minds in the other thread. So just be cautious. They come sounding like sheep, but they want to do internet propaganda, and also upset and make former members feel bad, guilty, depressed, etc. Don
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The Work gets Worse and Worse... it seems that Byron Katie also likes to blame victims of child-rape for the abuse. This is very common with sociopaths, they believe that if a child is raped, they asked for it, they wanted it to happen. So if you get scammed out of your house and give all your money to Byron Katie when she tells you to do so...then you were ASKING for it. Right honey? If B
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Sometimes the truth does slip-out....when Byron Katie was asked by a reporter what she does... Byron Katie.. "fixes her aquamarine eyes on me, smiles and says, "I clear people's minds." She illustrates the statement with a flick of those fingernails, as if brushing crumbs from a tablecloth." Right from the horses mouth. Just like a flick of the finger...Byron Katie.
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