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9 years ago
zeuszor
rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Steve Hassan has used and disgarded many people > over the years. This has included former cult > members he used for interventions, colleagues and > office support staff. > > When anyone is critical regarding Steve's behavior > and/or business practices he commonly > characterizes
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Oh yeah, Rick, and I am prepared for the Hassanites and their guru to characterize and come after me thusly. I expect it will happen, as a matter of fact.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
A personal account: In November of 2011, I was in the Acute Ward of a VA Hospital for six days. I spoke with Debra (Hassan's assistant at the time) a couple of times from inside the hospital and she told me that she had let Hassan know where I was, and why. As I was in the employ of FOM at the time, was working on projects with them, and we communicated almost every day (the office and
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9 years ago
zeuszor
rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That is a gross understatement. > > "Combatting Cult Mind Control" was released in > 1988 and is out of date. > > Psychologist Margaret Singer's book "Cults in Our > Midst" published in 1995 is much better written > and more helpful. > > See > >
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
There is a book entitled Prison or Paradise? The New Religious Cults, by Rudin. It can be found here: And also here: Hassan is mentioned on pages 37-38, and 124 of this book. Later on, I'll scan and present, in black and white, the pages that I am citing here on this board. For now, I quote from page 38: "Steve is bitter when he remembers how quickly the church
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Go to near the very end, to 1:34:40 or so. It's actually my favorite part of the film. The security guard (Kevin) who just gave Ivy the medicine and helped her go back over the wall is just sitting there, ignoring the beeping noise that his vehicle is making, staring into space as if he does not know what in the world to think, as if his reality-testing capacity is temporarily suspended be
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9 years ago
zeuszor
zeuszor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Because of the staggering hypocrisy of it all. Have you ever seen that movie "The Village", Rick? I am not changing the subject; please bear with me, I am getting to a point here.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
The chickens are coming home to roost, for Steve Hassan. Yes, I am mentioned in the Acknowledgements of his last book (in the second-to-the-last paragraph, specifically), but I now am compelled to publicly denounce the man.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is sad that people at ICSA (International > Cultic Studies Association) have not done > something meaningful regarding Steve Hassan's > unethical and harmful conduct. > > It is disturbing that ICSA has willfully ignored > this, but it seems that many people within ICSA > have bui
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Not to mention the fact that EVERYBODY who has been involved with ICSA for any appreciable period of time knows how he is, and NOBODY seems to do anything at all about it. Why do they humor him so?
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9 years ago
zeuszor
9 years ago
zeuszor
Well for starters: for a guy who runs a company called "Freedom of Mind", he sure cannot seem to stand it when somebody uses their critical thinking skills with respect to their interactions with him; he cannot stand to be thus critically scrutinized, he practices information control, and he is the kind of person who is so very proud of how humble he is. And that's right off the t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Hassan's latest version of his intervention story starts at 1:01. Gee, I did not know that the Goldbergs were a part of his exit from the Moonies. Were they?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Because of the staggering hypocrisy of it all.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Good God. I feel like I'm gonna puke.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
No, Hassan is no MLK. That is for sure. I'm just saying that the contrast between the public persona and the private reality (in the case of Hassan) is that stark.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Martin Luther King, Jr.was a plagiarist, and that's a documented, well-known fact. There was an official inquiry at Boston University (his alma mater) and everything. When I first found this out years ago, I was shocked and outraged. What a colossal hypocrite, I thought to myself. It made me so angry at MLK that I could have spit. My image of the man was utterly shattered, j
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
zeuszor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do you know why it is that I don't feel guilty at > all about expressing my antipathy for Hassan, nor, > as a Christian, do I feel like a hypocrite > myself? > > It's because I take consolation, and feel rather > validated, knowing that I am just one of many > people who used to wo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Now, the Great and Powerful Hassan has blocked me from being able to comment on his FOM Facebook page, and has deleted my recent posts to it, as well. Isn't that called "Information Control", Steve?
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9 years ago
zeuszor
Do you know why it is that I don't feel guilty at all about expressing my antipathy for Hassan, nor, as a Christian, do I feel like a hypocrite myself? It's because I take consolation, and feel rather validated, knowing that I am just one of many people who used to work for or with him, and left his association feeling just as disgruntled and jaded as I feel. In other words: I a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
And I have not worked for or with him in about a year and a half, either. I quit working with Freedom of Mind a couple of weeks or so after the Boston Marathon bombings. I used to be reluctant to speak or write negatively of him in public (talk about your phobia indoctrination), but no more. I'm sick of his displays of utter hypocrisy, and my noticing the latest HuffPo piece was the last
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9 years ago
zeuszor
zeuszor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mr. Hassan is apparently publishing articles in > the Huffington Post again. > > > s-a-cult-that-uses-_b_6023890.html > > Mr. Hassan, I've got two ideas for your review: > > 1) Why not start writing these articles for the > Washington Times, too? That way, your message will
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9 years ago
zeuszor
"Self-proclaimed “cult expert” Steve Hassan appears to be cashing in on people who work with human trafficking victims, a much more popular and potentially lucrative cause than cult victims whose popularity have declined since their heyday in the 1970s-80s. His latest is that he has incorporated his BITE model (which is based on other people’s ideas cobbled together and lacks evidence ev
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 years ago
zeuszor
Mr. Hassan is apparently publishing articles in the Huffington Post again. Mr. Hassan, I've got two ideas for your review: 1) Why not start writing these articles for the Washington Times, too? That way, your message will reach a wider audience. 2) Why not write a piece (whether for HuffPo or the Washington Times) about the Movement for Spiritual Inner Awareness, Insight Semina
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9 years ago
zeuszor
Bottlenecks and Free Enterprise January 22, 2012 The Twelve Tribes communities in different countries displayed various degrees of tolerance to independence, and free will to individual self-autonomy. Bottleneck style government is typical in many communities, where all decisions must go through just one person. Everything from borrowing a car to going shopping to asking if it’s a goo
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9 years ago
zeuszor
"Marsha Spriggs affair with Yadutan and the subsequent cover up Why Yadutan and Emunah left the Twelve Tribes I have some information that for conscience sake I need to let others know about. As some may have heard by now, I have been working with Yadutan since he has moved to Florida close to where I live. When I first left the community, I heard that Yadutan had left the communi
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9 years ago
zeuszor
What ever happened to Ted Patrick, the man who invented the term "deprogramming"? Is he even still alive? Does anybody know?
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10 years ago
zeuszor
It's probably not true (the "Dave is dead" rumor, I mean), or else we would have somehow had more definitive word from Australia by this time. To begin with, I got this (tentative) info from somebody claiming to be a worker in some Australain hospital. Maybe somebody with the same name (David McKay, I mean) recently fell ill/died and it was some kind of mix-up in the confusion
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