Man up and assume your proper responsibility, Steve. How do you answer for this?
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My compliments, RR. Recently I finished your book and quite liked it. It's thorough and authoritative, as well as well-documented and researched, but its tone is never patronizing or pedantic; it's very readable for a general audience (I read the whole thing in four days and found it to be a "page turner"). This book is a thorough reference and resource book for anyone
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MonicaPignotti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > zeuszor Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Then it's a lie? > > > No, I know the Goldbergs and they actually do > corroborate that they were around then and > supportive of him. They were not part of his > intervention, though, and
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Tikkun olam. That's what he's told me, Rick.
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QuoteMonicaPignotti ------------------------------------------------------- > While I do think he might believe this on some > level,that he is serving some king of grandiose > mission, I think he also uses religion to serve > his own ego. Just my own observation and opinion. > Not really very different from many cult leaders. Just the same as many cult leaders, actually.
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And another thing: I've got another Hebrew term for all of you. The biblical concept of lifnay evare (sp?) commands me not to look the other way when I see such harm being done by Hassan (or anybody else, for that matter). I consider speaking out against him, and denouncing my association with him as part of a spiritual duty on my part, according to this principle.
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Quotezeuszor ------------------------------------------------------- > Are you familiar with the biblical concept of > tikkun olam, Rick? > > I am getting to a (on-topic) point here; please > humor me long enough to answer my question. OK, I'll just go ahead anyway then. "Tikkun olam" means "repair the world" or "heal the world" in
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MonicaPignotti: what do you know about the matter of the Rudin book?
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Are you familiar with the biblical concept of tikkun olam, Rick? I am getting to a (on-topic) point here; please humor me long enough to answer my question.
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Quoterrmoderator It's ironic how someone that supposedly is dedicated to "combatting cult mind control" could be so manipulative and controlling. It seems to me that he behaves more like a con man or a cult leader than someone dedicatedto "freedom of mind." Rick, I could not have put it better myself, and could not agree more with what you express here. QuoteMalene
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PS: I realize that in using the Bible quote from Paul (above) I may be accused of some kind of Messianic fixation on my part, as well. This is not the case; I am not comparing myself in any sense, to Paul the Apostle. It just seemed like an appropriate quote, is all, and it came to my mind. Maybe it'd have been better to post this quote, from Jack Nicholson: Bye!
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To whom it may concern: This is the last post that I will make on the topic of Hassan and his hypocrisies. At least, this is the last post that I will make on the topic, for a long time; indeed, this is the last post that I'll make for a while, period. Certain persons who I thought of as friends and colleagues (who are former members and mental-health professionals who run a support g
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"...if you are a moral person with integrity, you would never do to someone what you wouldn't want done to yourself." *From the above video, at 1:10). That's a good one, coming from him. Sure, Steve, I am sure that you are a much better person, a much more moral person and a person with more integrity, than I. In other words, if you are a moral person with integr
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"Please don't use this message board to promote any of Steve Hassan's paranoid conspiracy theories. They are rubbish and do not reflect anything meaningful or educational on this thread." No way; I'm not doing any such thing, RR. It's my way of being sarcastic, insofar as I've heard him use that very term ("Unholy Trinity") in reference to his most
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No, Steve, I do not have a personal vendetta against you, per se. Nobody has put me up to this (what I have been doing lately), and I am certainly not being used or paid by some cult (or other group) that has an interest in discrediting you. I benefit nothing from this activity, and in fact take very little pleasure in it at all. It actually makes me sick. Nobody is launching a bunch of uns
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"Did you write an article that later published as "by Steve Hassan" somewhere like Huffington Post?" Something like that, yes. No, for the record: I never did BITE reports for billable time; in terms of billable time, I did mostly IT work and other online stuff.
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"In a cult, abusive organization, or abusive relationship it does not matter if the information presented is true. If it is negative about the group or any member of the group, then you cannot say it. Usually such negative information will be will be labeled as slander, and if one persists in speaking it or writing it one can be disciplined severely, ultimately with expulsion from the group,
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In other words: I know for a fact that not everything that gets published in Hassan's name was actually written by Hassan; in three instances, I MYSELF did "ghostwriting" work for him.
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"Helpful" how, Rick? All I will put out publicly (details-wise), is that I wrote things (at least in terms of outlines and preliminary drafts of things) that Hassan published publicly and in his own name. He had editorial control over the contents of these writings, but I did most of the actual legwork. Did he profit financially from the publication of these articles? Probably n
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Under Much Grace Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've always seen the BITE model as something of a > reiteration of a Cognitive Behavioral approach to > change which I was taught when doing patient > teaching. > > Think of a diabetic who has been newly diagnosed. > They have to learn a great deal of new information > upon wh
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Sorry; typo above. And for the record: I regret, and and actually a little ashamed of, being a part of FOM in the first place. I wish that I had never worked for him. The "boots on the ground" work I actually enjoyed though, at the time. I was face to-face with the son or daughter (or whoever) of the person who was paying me, sometimes. I found that kind of work very gratifying,
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And for the record: I regret, and and actually a little ashamed of, being a part of FOM in the first place. I wish that I had never worked for him of victims of these kinds of situational traps/"cults".
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rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The complaints I receive about Steve Hassan are > usually about money. How much he pressures family > to pay him and the huge fees he collects from > them. > > What was your experience working for him regarding > his client fees? > > I have been told his fees can run up to $8,000 pe
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And these people run a support group for former members of groups/relationships, too. Hell, I feel like I need a support group in order to recover from my experience with Hassan. That's ironic. But it seems like nobody cares. I get accused of being a "loose cannon". Hell, I sat on it, and never publicly said anything negative about Hassan for a full year and a half before I
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Somebody else once wrote: "As said previously, Hassan thinks he can do or say anything he wants and he is insulated from criticism. That's what he thinks. He is woefully out of practice with anyone providing dissent for his methods, his claims, and his manner in how he treats people, includiing clients and other professionals." Yeah, I could not agree more. Hassan is what he
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You are right, Rick. Word got around to Steve about what I am doing, and then reached out to these people in order to shut me down. He now will not associate with them, because of their association with me. He extorts and practices information control, as evidenced by what has happened in the last few days. But these "friends" just don't care; as long as they can be in his bett
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And now some of the people who I thought were my friends, people whom I have known for several years, have thrown me under the bus and have kowtowed to Hassan and the ICSA political machine, because of their association with me. They know that Hassan practices information control, but they just don't care, as long as they can maintain their reputations within the "ICSA community".
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And look what's become of him now.
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"3. I was also involved in at least 2 deprogrammings with Pat Ryan. One was in about 1988, and involved Hare Krishna named Bill Crockett, from Boston. The rest of the deprogramming team was Joe Szimhart, Jonathan Nordquist, and myself. This case was an unlawful detention deprogramming. It was not successful. During the Crockett deprogramming attempt, I recall talking to Ron Loom
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