Heads up. Have you heard of this, corboy? It's next-generation Qanon conspiracy theory stuff, being spun by somebody who calls himself "Patel Patriot". This is the direction that the Qanon "movement" is moving in now. It involves the idea that Trump is actually POTUS to this very day.
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To whom it may concern: the ISKCON Child Protection Office (CPO) case was resolved in the favor of the family who initiated it. This is a big deal, corboy. The abusive teacher has been relieved of her service in the school, and is now restricted from participating in most temple activities. That's a good thing. There were kids who were doing their best to refuse to go to school, owin
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Happy anniversary, Dave and Cherry! Sorry I missed it yesterday.
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Dave and Cherry's 57th wedding anniversary is coming up soon (in a little more than a week, to be exact). McKay married his high school sweetheart Sherian (Cherry) on 24 July 1964 in Yolo County, California. Happy anniversary in advance, to the two of you!
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Here is a little bit about the mystical forces which drove me to Krsna Consciousness, Ian: the first time I ever ate any prasadam, I was an atheist. I was only there, at the local Hare Krsna temple, to eat in their restaurant. When I ate the Hare Krsna food for lunch, I noticed that I began to feel high and was in a great mood for the rest of the day. I subsequently noticed how every time
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That Upanishad is not proof. It's a highly > disputed, questionable work. Chanting a sanskrit > word has no magic power. None. It does not solve > any life issues, give one any entrance to a cow > planet or provide spiritual growth or an intimate > relationship with any god in any realistic an
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They've curtailed some of their grosser criminal activities and they've become much more adroit with their PR, but ISKCON has not essentially changed. At least in Dallas, the management is pretty much a bunch of gangsters in dhotis, minus the guns and overt violence. They wield control over the "community", but without any meaningful accountability to anybosy outside of thei
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Once again, I apologize to all for my role in this drama as well. Truth wins, I mean you no harm and I bid you peace. No hard feelings, I hope.
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Truth wins, I never "attacked" you, personally or otherwise. I never insulted your intelligence or your character, and I do not know a thing about you other than your former involvement with Chris Butler. I do not know your name, your sex, nothing. You are taking this much too personally, in my opinion. Nonetheless, I regret having bothered you.
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Truth wins, please accept my apologies. I went overboard and will back off now.
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The Whirlwind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Truth wins Wrote: > > > To me the devil is FEAR. And fear is the only > > ennemy I fight every day. > > When we fear, we have no power. PERIOD. Be it > > fearing guru, God... > > All religions have proven themselves to be fear > > based. Even Vaishnavism that invites
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Well, golly gee... It must be understood that no discussion thread at this message board is or will be unduly dominated or controlled by any single contributor and/or team of contributors. Each thread of discussion is a place for every participant to freely express his or her ideas, feelings and opinions. Everyone must behave respectfully and with courtesy. No member of this message board may
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Yep, as I've already said (in another thread) I do have a counselor of my own. AND I go to monthly support groups. :-) If I see somebody posting inaccurate things, then I am gonna correct the misinformation if I can. I am here to EDUCATE. There's no need to be so hostile towards me. After all, I am not breaking any of the rules of this message board.
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We are not talking about eating meat alone oh > learned brahmana. PS: I am not a brahmana. I am not second-initiated. I'm just some guy who is very familiar with what Prabhupada did and did not teach.
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This is the CULT EDUCATION FORUM, NOT the Angry Atheist Forum. I am here to EDUCATE. You are here to vent, seems like. I suggest you seek a good counselor.
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Truth wins Wrote: > Keep your fingers and energy for other posts. Stay > away from mine. No. If you do not like it, then that's just too bad. I am not obligated to obey you. Time, place, and circumstance. It's not a contradiction; it's a paradox. Abraham lived in a different time, in a different place, under a different set of circumstances. Out in the P
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PS: Once again: this is called the CULT EDUCATION FORUM. I am here to EDUCATE. If you do not like it, then tough. If you want a support group, then I suggest you seek professional help. With all due respect.
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This is Kali Yuga. If every devotee who made or heard offenses was to kill him- or her- self, then there'd not be much of a sangha left, would there?
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Truth wins: it seems like you are as familiar with Vaisnava philosophy and the teachings of Prabhupada as I am with ancient Babylonian and Sumerian mythology. That is, it seems like you are not familiar at all with Vaisnava philosophy and the teachings of Prabhupada. Have you ever even used Vaniquotes or the Vedabase? Have you read the books AT ALL? Because if you had read ANYTHIN
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Prabhupada taught that a vegetarian diet is always the first choice, and that even better, vegetarian food which is offered first to Krishna is the best choice. Prabhupada DID NOT teach absolute vegetarianism under all circumstances. Prabhupada taught that if one has no choice but starvation and death, then meat-eating is permissible in that case (if it's an emergency and there'
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Time, place, and circumstance. Time, place, and circumstance. Here is the answer...please follow this link: Please search this page for references to vegetarianism in the Islamic tradition:
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Truth wins Wrote: > To me the devil is FEAR. And fear is the only > ennemy I fight every day. > When we fear, we have no power. PERIOD. Be it > fearing guru, God... > All religions have proven themselves to be fear > based. Even Vaishnavism that invites people to > commit suicide if they are offensive or hear > offenses. First: do you know what the Latin root
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The Whirlwind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...so all that to say that I agree with you, Truth > wins. To seek an "external savior" is not > necessary, since (Scripturally speaking) the > "savior" is both within AND without. The kingdom > of God IS WITHIN YOU, as Jesus said (Luke 17:21). An "external savior"
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...so all that to say that I agree with you, Truth wins. To seek an "external savior" is not necessary, since (Scripturally speaking) the "savior" is both within AND without. The kingdom of God IS WITHIN YOU, as Jesus said (Luke 17:21).
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PS: Yes, the cross is a commonly-accepted symbol of Christianity, Truth wins. However (except as things are within the Roman Catholic tradition with respect to the display of the crucifix) crosses are always depicted EMPTY, since HE IS RISEN.
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The Bible and the Bhagavad-gita both say that God is always giving instruction from within, AND from without. Paramatma (or caitta-guru, "the guru within") gives instruction in this way. Please see: The Holy Spirit (in Greek, the Paraclete) is also called (in the Bible) "the Teacher of all things" and "the indwelling Spirit". The paraclete also gives
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PS: The concept of karma is not exclusive to Krishna conscious philosophy, nor to "Hinduism" in general. Even an atheist could believe in karma, you know. As in Buddhism, for example.
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We must take responsibility for our own load > instead of dumping it on a guru or Jesus on the > cross. For one thing: Lord Jesus (according to the Bible) is no longer on the cross. Christians (and others, like myself) believe that He is alive even now, having resurrected on the third day after His crucif
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The Whirlwind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > IanKoviak Wrote: > > > > Your above quotes about Bhaktivedanta saying > that > > you can chant this or that name of god from > > assorted traditions to equal effect is called > > pandering. He didn't believe that nor do his > > scriptures. > > That's
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Say that you took a piece of plain white typing paper, and drew two dots on it. One dot represents God and the other dot represents you. This is the basic Judeo-Christian and Islamic way of thinking of humanity in relation to God: God is here, and we are here. Time and history is linear and two-dimensional. From the point of view of Krishna conscious philosophy, God is the entire piece of paper,
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