RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You were not even in this cult. So basically you > are a disingenuous troll on here. That's all. > > Ban me for it as you like, but that's a fact. You > come here and troll other forums with zero actual > personal experience with abuse by these Cults. > My friend, you don�
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rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is room for various positions and opinions > here. > > But no personal attacks. This is called the "Cult Education Forum." I am here to educate others about the cult (that is: ISKCON and its offshoots, such as Science of Identity Foundation) in as honest and unbiased a manner as poss
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"We consider that it is essential to arouse towards Bhagavan by any means possible. The door leading to gradual elevation is firmly shut if people on any level of worship are ridiculed or condemned. Those who fall under the spell of dogmatism, and thereby become sectarian, lack the qualities of generosity and munificence. That is why they ridicule and condemn others who do not worship in t
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm suggesting that people use their critical > thinking instead of just gobbling up the words of > any number of these religious leaders as something > absolute and holy and unquestionably right/true. > I'm asking people to actually read and try to > honestly ask themselves if what
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It's also been a little more than fourteen years since that informal interview with your mother took place, David. She basically said that you've always been as you are now; that is, she said you've been manipulative, self-centered, and attention-seeking since your youth. She also said that she is ashamed of you, and hates who you grew up to be. My favorite part of that intervie
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Wow; time sure does fly, David. It's been a little more than fourteen years since you were made a fool of on "The Jeremy Kyle Show." The episode is still mostly available online, too. Here is a very good clip. It's depressing to me that you never stopped your predation; you just slowed down a bit, and changed some things about how you run your group. You are one d
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Happy holidays and a Merry Christmas to all, no matter what Name you call God by...and remember, kids: if chanting the Name "Krishna" weirds you out or whatever, then you can chant the Name of Jesus and achieve the same result. After all, He's the reason for the season. It is possible to induce other people to join in the function by substituting the names Allah and Jesus in pl
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The Whirlwind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just for your information: Jim Roberts (aka > Brother Evangelist) passed away a couple of days > before David's mother passed away. Huh. Jim > Roberts was a big influence on David, in terms of > how David ran the group that he'd founded (the > group which eventually came to be calle
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The Whirlwind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Happy 77th birthday, David. :-) David John McKay was born December 17, 1944. He is a native of Rochester, New York; he grew up in the Nazarene Church. His parents were Mnester and Alice McKay.
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Just for your information: Jim Roberts (aka Brother Evangelist) passed away a couple of days before David's mother passed away. Huh. Jim Roberts was a big influence on David, in terms of how David ran the group that he'd founded (the group which eventually came to be called the "Jesus Christians," etc.). More on Jim Roberts here:
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The Whirlwind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Today is Cherry McKay's mother's 96th birthday. > Flora Mae King (nee Wallis) is her name, and it's > unclear as to whether she is still living. Cherry > McKay was born Sherian Joann King on March 6, 1947 > in Visalia /Tulare, California, and she married > David McKay on July 2
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Today is Cherry McKay's mother's 96th birthday. Flora Mae King (nee Wallis) is her name, and it's unclear as to whether she is still living. Cherry McKay was born Sherian Joann King on March 6, 1947 in Visalia /Tulare, California, and she married David McKay on July 24, 1964 in Yolo County, CA.
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The Whirlwind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...and a happy belated birthday to David's > youngest daughter Christine! She turned 51 > yesterday, and as far as we know she is the only > one of the McKays' four children who is still part > of "the community" to this day. Happy birthday, > ma'am! PS: ...of thei
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...and a happy belated birthday to David's youngest daughter Christine! She turned 51 yesterday, and as far as we know she is the only one of the McKays' four children who is still part of "the community" to this day. Happy birthday, ma'am!
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Happy 77th birthday, David. :-)
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PS: I have the email addresses and phone number for "Patrick and Renata," too. If anybody who is reading this may want that information, then please contact me via private message and I'll give it to you. My gut tells me that David McKay is up to something here. I do not trust "Patrick and Renata" and suspect that this is all part of an Anita Foster-ish trick.
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Look, I don't know if "Patrick and Renata" are legitimate, bona fide ex-members or if they are Anita Foster-type inventions of Dave McKay's. I've spoken with both of them by phone, a man and a woman both, and have not only communicated with them by email. They claim to have left "the community" over the vaccination question. "Patrick and Renata" cla
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: I have reason to believe that Dave McKay's group is up to something. What they're trying to do I cannot predict, but there's been some unusual activity (so to speak) lately. I've been getting emails from persons claiming to be former members of the group, in which they're explaining Dave McKay's position with respect to the Covid vaccines an
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > These are my general sentiments. I make no claim to know > anything more than anyone else here. My views are > mine alone and based on my own conclusions. I > don't speak for others on this forum. Of course not. I never thought that you did.
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RUN_FOREST_RUN: please send me a private message if you will. I want to ask you for your advice about something, privately.
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Can anybody pls tell me what Tulsi Gabberd has been up to, lately?
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Whirlwind if you are attached to this process, get > in touch with the Narayana Maharaja group. > I communicated with a very nice disciple who used > to be with iskcon. > When ACBP left the planet, she became a discipe of > Narayana Maharaja. > They are much cleaner and decent people. > Sa
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You know what else is delusional, RUN_FOREST_RUN? The idea that one can become greater than God. As if God needs anybody's help. This is what they are preaching now. Madness, it is. This is the ultimate in narcissism. While impersonalists want to become one with God, devotees can attain the position of being greater than God. In the intimacy of pure love, they can tell God what
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Say that somebody hits you hard in the face, and knocks you down. You are stunned for a while, and you struggle to get back on your feet. When you do get back on your feet, the person who hit you tells you that it was your karma in the first place and he'd done nothing wrong in striking you, since you deserved it (karmically speaking). So you hit him back and he falls the ground, stunned.
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May I please level with you about something, RUN_FOREST_RUN? Here it is: on the one hand: I believe that ISKCON is a cult. No question of it. But on the other hand: In my heart, I honestly do not believe that Prabhupada was a bad guy, so to speak. And I feel this conflict, a cognitive dissonance over this. What is your counsel, please? Do you think that Prabhupada was a bad guy?
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ultimately, no one is qualified to make disciples > all over the world. As Oscar Wilde says, nothing > worth knowing can be taught. These guru's make a > career pretending that they are giving people some > sublime secret. But the secret is already in you > and unfolding uniquely within
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What is chastisement in reality in the SOI= > GLORIFIED ABUSE > > Please do not underestimate the damage they are > creating on a soul level. ISKCON is the exact same way, only worse. But don't call it abuse, since (according to your karma) you're only getting what you deserve. ISKCON
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They conveniently mix and match assorted indian > philosophies, scriptures and stamp it all as some > singular "eternal truth" that is over 5000 years > old. They throw in Jesus and buddha in there for > good measure and pretend like it all make sense > and belongs together. Find me
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