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5 years ago
happytown
If Moojiites find it easy to dismiss some of these more extreme accusations, they can at least balance their fervor with some words from Applejuice, a Mooji follower with the following concerns: 1. Allowing people to worship him 2. His teaching style 3. Not speaking on worldly events 4. Not taking mental health seriously enough
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5 years ago
happytown
Cults will always go after the person doing the criticising,in order to devalue the points themselves. It's par for the course. I'm fine thanks, I'm grateful you put my healing front and center in your decision to post. "His followers insist on worshipping him" What about his friends, his peers? Fellow teachers who he came up with? Those things that keep someone he
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5 years ago
happytown
I would also like to hear more about these four concerns: 1. Allowing people to worship him 2. His teaching style 3. Not speaking on worldly events 4. Not taking mental health seriously enough
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5 years ago
happytown
I am saying that it is not healthy for Mooji to have no peers. Even most spiritual teachers have a partner they would consider an equal.
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5 years ago
happytown
- there is evidence of public humiliation in this thread. Mooji can say something disparaging about you and it will instantly affect how a large group of people will treat you. If you don't believe it, try stepping out of line. -I spoke to someone about the hundreds of photos peppered throughout the ashram. They assured me there are none in the toilets. So definitely not a cult then. The
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5 years ago
happytown
Leaving a high demand group where you have completely devoted yourself to a guru, is not the same as leaving a community. Leaving a cult, despite how much you may want to leave, is excruciating, and many people think about leaving but cant find a way, just as many leave and go back. As stated in that excellent article about Bhagwan's Devious trap. All ex-members of a group are shamed
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5 years ago
happytown
Being able to leave any time you like is not the same as the crushing experience of either walking away from, or being discarded by, a high control group to which you have given so much of your life, which you could never imagine being away from. Regardless of the lack of personal testaments on this page, rest assured the people struggling with this exiting experience, when they come looking f
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5 years ago
happytown
Anyone can leave any group, but have you spoken to anyone who's left? Asked them what it feels like? Without filtering everything they say through some idea you have of them as 'lost'? (I'm speaking to any one in any group reading this). You are right. Technically anyone can leave, but what are the consequences of leaving? Do members, your former friends, do they treat
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5 years ago
happytown
The article is relevant because the groups, ALL of them,function in much the same way. There is really nothing new about what Mooji is doing. Most cult members attack the critical person rather than the points they're making. Nothing is wrong with me. Furthermore, 'leaving' a group is a psychological event rather than a physical one, and many groups can be spread out all over
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5 years ago
happytown
Gosh I'm full of assumptions. It may not be as easy to leave as you think: Repost: High demand groups are full of all sorts of people, intelligent, capable, and clever. The environment of thought reform is oppressive.
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5 years ago
happytown
I have no idea either way. But I promise every ex-cult member reading this is rolling their eyes at you. People don't cut ties to their guru for such mundane reasons. Although such things may be the narrative that gets spun. I assume by Samadhi you mean this woman: Bear in mind that close Amma associate Gail Treadwell spent twenty years with Amma only to be labeled paranoid
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5 years ago
happytown
Although you may perceive that someone decides to leave in the middle of the night and that they acted irrationally, often it's a confusing one-sided story that group members latch onto. Groups always have a rational explanation for why someone left, and the weight of group tendency to agree can really confuse any ex-member, in particular these few you have named in an attempt to shame:
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5 years ago
happytown
Although the invitation offers immediate awakening for everyone, apparently 55% of users may experience some chafing as a result of prolonged usage: "Meditation is generally promoted as having many health benefits, and mindfulness meditation has been actively promoted in the past two decades. It is a western, non-sectarian, research-based form of meditation derived from a 2,500 year o
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5 years ago
happytown
Gaslighting is often misunderstood, but plenty of literature on it: www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-warning-signs-gaslighting%3famp "How do you know if you're being gaslighted? How do you know if you are being gaslighted? If any of the following warning signs ring true, you may be dancing the Gaslight Tango. Take care of yourself by taking an
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5 years ago
happytown
Spiritual consumers, feasting on YouTube and retreats, maybe not recognize what's being said in this article and other posts, but the 'Sangha' or disciples will know about Bhagwan's Devious Trap':
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5 years ago
happytown
The difference between a cult and a religion according to Janja Lalich: 1. They will rush you 2. Their leader is the higher power 3. They control rather than guide 4. They make it impossible to trust fellow followers
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5 years ago
happytown
Every group member will recognize the. Flying Monkeys around them: )
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5 years ago
happytown
Many sedative drugs often come with the warning: "Please be advised: do not drive or operate heavy machinery". Mooji's invitation requires a similar disclaimer due to its potent numbing effect: "Please be advised: do not drive or operate heavy machinery while listening to this audiobook. In case of a mental health condition, please consult your medical practitioner be
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5 years ago
happytown
How groups try to get inside your head:
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5 years ago
happytown
Rick Ross addresses the formidable issue of how to talk to someone still in the grips of a high demand group:
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5 years ago
happytown
Janja Lalich clarifies what constitutes a cult and also the different kinds of cults out there. Great article:
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5 years ago
happytown
Papaji devotee David Godman talks about so-called immediate enlightenment:
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5 years ago
happytown
On cult membership and addictive disorders:
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5 years ago
happytown
How cults use YouTube for recruitment:
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5 years ago
happytown
Steve Hassan offers advice in his chapter entitled "strategies for recovery": "People can leave a mind control group in any of three basic ways: they walk out; they are kicked out (often in a very burned-out condition, both psychologically and physically); or they are counseled out." Hassan, Steven. Combating Cult Mind Control: (p. 271)
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5 years ago
happytown
The toxic power dynamics of oneness
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5 years ago
happytown
Are You, or Is Someone You Know, Involved in a High-Demand Group or Movement ("cult")? We suggest that you check all characteristics that apply to your or your loved one's group: [*] ... The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. The group is pre
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5 years ago
happytown
Great advice for anyone exiting from a high demand group:
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5 years ago
happytown
Great advice for anyone exiting a high demand group:
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5 years ago
happytown
I think that xivoparig knows that the details of their post are verifiably false since Mooji spends most of his time in Portugal. I think it is further distraction and dilution of discussion.
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