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5 years ago
happytown
Former siddhayoga member and therapist Daniel Shaw spent 13 years with a Hindu based guru. This podcast on how to recognize a cult:
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5 years ago
happytown
I'm told that it's the property called "sahaja valley" that is/was plagued by legal troubles, Locals are worried what might happen when the bubble bursts. As most Sangha members will know, all the properties on that website are privately owned. Such obvious misinformation make it easier for everyone to dismiss everything.
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5 years ago
happytown
An interview on traumatic narcissism. Very interesting but a little hard to hear- much clearer with earphones in.
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5 years ago
happytown
Speaking of seconding to Portugal to build a haven, here's a guide to how narcissists isolate you:
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5 years ago
happytown
Fortunately, whatever cults do, it tends to be culty, so attempts to disrupt the thread just add fuel. Seems to me like Neutrollization! "neutrollization plays on citizens’ own critical faculties by first drawing them in and then confusing them. It is not about merely pulling the wool over their eyes, and it has little to do with coercion or silencing. Instead, it exploits and twists the
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5 years ago
happytown
Applejuice it turned out didn't really know much when challenged. A lot of what they said may apply to lower level members, but Constantin seemed more on the money when it came to the deeper experience. Although Applejuice had some valid concerns about worship and mental health. Applejuice also claimed that a long time devotee simply gave up her devotional nature and disappeared in the
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5 years ago
happytown
Some useful terminology for "satsangs hijinks" Also, if you are in an environment where your concerns are met with something along the lines of, "but can you see that's just a thought?", (and thought is demonised) be weary. Phobia induction and desensitization:
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5 years ago
happytown
Broadcasting sessions where people are guided into a relaxed, suggestible state is illegal in many countries:
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5 years ago
happytown
Broadcasting sessions where people are guided into a relaxed, suggestible state is illegal in many countries:
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5 years ago
happytown
The toxic power dynamics of oneness It's one thing to realize that a toxic structure has grown around an authoritarian leader, but it's a different thing to scapegoat that structure in order to keep your view of that leader pure.
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5 years ago
happytown
As rrmoderator pointed out, the board of trustees is probably just a front and everything is controlled by the one guy, based on how he's feeeeeeeeling. A board of trustees is a technical necessity for a UK charity. rrmoderator wrote: "No peers? Sounds like the group is run like a dictatorship. It also probably has corporate bylaws and a board. My guess is that Moo runs that t
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5 years ago
happytown
> > It's very interesting that the Moo Cult Compound > (offcially called the Associacao Mooji Sangha > ashram) states as it's aim: > > "The promotion of moral and spiritual welfare > for the public benefit." > It's interesting to note that the group and the guru has become LESS easy to access as a result of such prosperity. All the f
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5 years ago
happytown
corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > You've been shamed to forget that YOUR seva > service, your money, your laughter and your > adoration BUILT Monte Sahaja. > > You've been shamed to forget that YOU gave Moo > your love and benefit of the doubt. > > YOu've been shocked and shamed to forget that Moo
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5 years ago
happytown
Wombat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Interesting that on one hand Mooji is accused of > keeping people trapped in his ashram, and on the > other hand he is accused of periodically kicking > them out. > > So which is it? Are people trapped with no way to > leave? Or perhaps there are different levels of involvement in the group,
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5 years ago
happytown
> Moo being only an employee may indicate that he > doesn't really have much power in the > organisation, although of course they are reliant > on him to keep on parroting the ridiculous > bullsh*t he goes on with. That is not the case at all. Although it may come in handy as an argument, if a "Sheela" is required to scapegoat at a later date.
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5 years ago
happytown
It seems it was actually bringinthecat's post that caused all the trolls to appear, Perhaps this deserves its own thread: Date: March 30, 2018 05:59AM I went to mooji's ashram in 2014 for a few months. I was doing seva there on their building projects, building a new temple. I had a good time and got a lot out of it. reading all this had brought back a memory that I feel I s
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5 years ago
happytown
This post from page 37, which seems to have been written by a computer algorithm with the search terms "Mooji cult", is getting a lot of attention on the chi-ting apocalypse page.
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5 years ago
happytown
A link to the Spiritual Abuse Resources website. And an article about the conversion process in high demand groups: "In some cultic groups it is not unusual for a person to go through the following stages: 1. Prospective converts perceive the leader as having some special ability or charisma (he reads minds; he heals people; he induces altered states of consciousness in people) that tr
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5 years ago
happytown
They have possibly been told to "stay as the self" as they listen to your problems, which I'm told involves glazing over and not engaging with you in any way. Then they just report what you said to someone else. Such is the life of what Alexandra Stein calls a "deployable agent". I'm told they don't even think they're human anymore. This makes sense with
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5 years ago
happytown
I don't think it's fair to criticize the mayor, he seems like a nice guy
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5 years ago
happytown
For anyone who has lost the ability to trust themselves due to cultic abuse, there is a book called the Guru Papers which is mentioned elsewhere on the site. It has a chapter called "healing crippled self-trust"
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5 years ago
happytown
Constantin sounds pretty legit to me.
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5 years ago
happytown
People get banned for personal attacks on people who speak out. That's about it as far as I can see. But I think several accounts are posted by the same person, having a conversation with themselves, saying very little of substance, just mudding up the thread.
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5 years ago
happytown
Although skilled or in some other way attractive people may get in for free, on the whole it's people with money that get through the gates.
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5 years ago
happytown
Mooji asks "what is the definition of a cult?" Start here: "Cult (totalist type): A group or movement exhibiting a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some person, idea, or thing and employing unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control (e.g., isolation from former friends and family, debilitation, use of special methods to heighten suggestibi
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5 years ago
happytown
There is a lot of confusing dross in this 37 page thread, in the hope that you won't bother to read all of it.
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5 years ago
happytown
Mooji's stories are often meaningless if you are not already looking for and expecting deep meaning in them. Take the two birds story example. The two birds bit kind of makes sense, so presumably that's the bit he got from someone else. The "third bird that's not really a bird" is a total deepity: If anyone claims to understand the third bird, a fourth bird will
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5 years ago
happytown
10 psychological reason why people join cults: it's not homeless, miserable people. It's anyone and everyone:
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5 years ago
happytown
You have to admit, the songs are quite catchy: "Copied and pasted from a someone posting on guruphiliac Facebook page: For those who might be interested in following the progression of a guru devote from fairly "normal" to "hardcore," I'm sharing some research I did on one of Mooji's peeps. Mooji – Krishnabai research project My interest in this is b
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5 years ago
happytown
That last link of Horowitz's doesn't work for me. Did it get deleted already? That was quick. I noticed a video I posted about earlier which showed a lieutenant being publicly shamed has been removed. They probably felt it "might be misinterpreted". Here's where it used to be, in case they have a change of heart:
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