Thanks CP You made me laugh out loud. I love what you wrote, its all so true and so obvious that this whole UM thread is almost a joke. I feel like I am on some very funny UK sitcom where they take the mickey out of extreme religious/cult groups. I really can't get my head around the students love and admiration of Serge. I have mentioned before on this thread that I myself am int
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Thanks Venus. He really is a happy jovial sort of bloke isn't he (NNNNOOOOTTTTT)
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Happy 2013 There must be two Serge's out there. This is on one of the bizarre Serge love blogs, by a student who has obviously never read one of Serge's books or been told there are evil entities flying around that will attach to you if you drink or take drugs or hang out with pranic people. This just sounds like someone with blinkers on to me and who can't see that even tho
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With Serge and his students it seems to always be "us" the loving gentle ones against "them" the ones that don't have it right that aren't loving in the right way: A recent post from a UM student "Unlike the yoga classes that are all about postures and breath, Esoteric yoga allows you the time and space to connect to your body and be still." I am s
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Hey guys Has anyone heard of anyone leaving UM since all the hardwork of say Venus and ConcernedPartner etc. Is the forum and blog working??? I certainly hope so
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Serge and UM have hid behind great causes such as Domestic Violence and now they are hiding behind cyber bullying. How can they do this? They don't let anyone write on their blogs unless they are a "sergophile" they don't let anyone else have an opinion or even talk to them about what Serge does and how he has effected their relationships with friends and family who are memb
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A recent post on Words on Serge Behayon. A paranoid student of Serge Benhayon. How an anyone write this stuff and not seriously consider how they are living from a place of fear and hatred? ""If we conform to ‘the majority rule’ and ‘don’t rock the boat’ or ask questions; if we discount our true feelings, and turn a blind eye to what we are actually subscribing to and willingly bei
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QuoteworriedwifeMorning, I thought it was overdue I contribute to the forum. Not sure how to start off here. My sister is heavily involved in UM, she got my husband into the whole thing and he left me for her. Apparantly they understand each other. So I have two relationship breakdowns to deal with. It has been a little while now I am getting by but have my days. My sister has alway been pre-d
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I've been listening to his audio by the way, and he uses OVERT hypnosis, with the word 'reconnect' as one of the trigger words. Beware of that one[/i I would like to learn more about OVERT hypnosis. So you think "reconnect" is the word? His books are so bizarre but he does the gentle loving paragraph and then the divisive paragraph, back and forwards. Well done
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If enlightenment is possible as a human, then Serge's way is taking you in the wrong direction. He is greedy, egotistical, narcissistic, insecure with no empathy and lots of hang ups about women and men and the relationship between the sexes. I think you will find true enlightened beings don't need their students or anyone else to defend them or to follow them. Surely true enlighte
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Does anyone here think Serge will reinvent UM a bit. Just like politics they look at the polls and change policies. Do you think Serge will do that to keep the business running, or does he believe truely in what he is selling. Umm I wonder.
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Hi Venus I can't remember exactly what I wrote now... I am pretty sure I was thinking (yes thinking) that it was along the lines of what CP has mentioned about false choices. The students talk about being free to choose, but infact they aren't. You can either align gently and lovingly to fiery energy or you can align to evil pranic energy. Where is the choice in that? If you want
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HDTH Good point. Where is Serge and why are all his students fighting for him? Is he delluded or is this a well thought out business scheme. I am not sure, maybe both?
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Thanks VenusDarkly (I refuse to call you VD!!:)) I wrote a long reply but deleted it by mistake. Wil write more later.
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QuoteMacReadySerge once said to me: “My joy is to see you (students) returning to who you truly are.” Or rather, his joy is remolding you into an imitation of himself: Reading that post, if I had no knowledge of Serge or UM, I would say good on her. Afterall if she is happier then isn't that good? This woman was lonely and not engaging in life before UM, now she has found
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QuoteMacReadyFinally, a UM blog entry that to some degree acknowledges the need students have to keep going back to UM events to maintain the mood created by external stimuli, the '"Serge said" syndrome that's so prevalent among the cult, and how difficult it is for the families of these people to live with an obsessive, devoted Benhayon follower. The author absolves Serge of
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Hi MacReady In that blog about Serge, she says Serge has never told her what to do.... Maybe she hasn't even read Serges books? I will quote from Serge's book The Way of Initiation pg 552 and 553. (ps I haven't been reading the book, I just picked it up and this was the first thing I saw, the whole book is full of it, pages over and over again) If this doesn't make y
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Treefern you are a genius (maybe we should all follow you??:)) "pranic and proud" !!!
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has anyone noticed this: UM followers hiding behind support of women's issues. I would love a UM woman student to say what she classifies as "abuse". The women I have worked with who had suffered DV and "abuse" hid under tables and got hit over the head with hammers ended up in hospitals and fled to refuges. I wouldn't have thought a man cuddling you withou
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Thank you RockBiter for and Jasmin for sharing your stories. Serge is one powerful man in all the wrong places.... To take advantage of the "inner child" is such a manipulative and predatory way to hook people in.
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this link has to be the worst attempt at humour I have ever come across. It is so self serving and righteous. What happened to self deprecation as really good humour. I really can't believe how judgemental UM'ers are (yes the irony hasn't escaped me that I am being judgemental writing this post but I will always draw the line at particularly bad humour). . If this is belie
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Yes Macready, agreed, its good she isn't drinking. I hope I didn't make light of the fact the drugs and alcohol are a concern with teenagers. But you are right, my children have never had a drop of alcohol pass through their lips and I know many other loving parents who would never let their children or teeangers drink. I do understand that the world has sped up in terms of techn
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Is this a little disturbing? A 12 year old defending UM. And what she writes, is slightly exaggerated. I know lots of 12 year olds and work with 12 year olds and I have never ever had one of them come to school hungover. I don't know where she is living but it certainly isn't with anyone I know...... Also, I find it disturbing at how she is putting down everyone who isn't
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Quoteconcerned partner quote sergePrediction Adjustments to the earth - earth quakes, tidal waves, cyclones etc., are going to increase not decrease. They are going to happen in less remote areas - capital cities etc. The “victims” have their karma crushed out of them i.e. those that lose their lives - their spirits are free to reincarnate anywhere. Those that suffer and survive are the mai
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Thanks to the new contributors. I think its good to hear the different perspectives from all people effected by UM and Serge's teachings.
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Thanks CP Wow! I am surely one of those witless women! I need some time to digest what I just read. He really has a great story running on life the universe and everything. And here I was thinking the answer was 42 or was that 44?? I particularly like this line Be willing to stand in your occult and esoteric truth with family. They will either hate you more or align more. Well Wo
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Hey HK and CP or anyone else the meaning of compassion a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering. the meaning of empathy the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another. Do you think these two words are missing in UM?
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Thanks CP for your posts. I found them very informative and also very eloquent. What I find really interesting, that if it is true, that relationships have broken up because of one person following the UM doctrine, and one not, even if Serge believes his UM doctrine is the way to live life, why can't he acknowledge at all the reality of what has happened? He can't seem to even sa
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Hear hear Treefern I was talking to a friend/lover about Universal Medicine (a man) and he said its just ultra conservative. It was a relief to hear that because I knew there was something so true to those words. Calling women back to the brotherhood I wonder what that is about. I did notice on FB the other day that Serge said something about "sis" and all these women responde
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Thanks Treefern for your account of EBM. Its good to hear your connection with UM. To be honest I don't know why UM or Serge make out that women hold all this negative energy in their bodies and in their breasts. Some women don't have problems with their breasts, they infact, might even enjoy them! (now thats a pranic dark thought) Dare I say it that Serge and UM are an ultra conse
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