Elaborating on the absolutely insane claims Serge and Natalie have apparently made; how is 'the initial imprint' of a pad (as opposed to a tampon) NOT "from the consciousness that periods are a nuisance (and 'I just want to keep going')" since they essentially serve exactly the same purpose, while differing in their application? How is a woman using a pad or panty-li
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"So why use this forum as a place to seek connection/recognition/fame/likes/friends you never meet when it is full of mega astral rips and currents?" - SB. Good question, Serge. why DO you do all of the above? I mean, apart from further controlling your followers (who slavishly seek connection with you and 'like' your every post) and keep the money flowing in. "Be w
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Hi Treefern, I just wanted to extend my best wishes to you and also thank you for sharing what is no doubt a very difficult, personal experience you're going through. Given Serge's teachings relating to cancer, it's all the more impressive that you were able to gain traction with your husband regarding UM. It must be a very trying time for you both. Wishing you a speedy recov
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QuoteHerbertKane178 Michael Jackson and The Beatles also all lived to excess. Jackson's drug use killed him and The Beatles experiments for psychedelics are well documented and yet they see to be 'approved' also? Seems contradictory to me. On copyright grounds Glorious Music should perhaps change the title of the album "Welcome to the New Era" by Michael and Emmalee Be
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As I understand it the key point (along with the emotional issues you mentioned) is that music channels the energy of its creator. So if an artist does drugs, drinks alcohol or generally lives in a manner not approved by UM, the music delivers the energy of said lifestyle choices to the listener. Again this makes the choice of Elvis as an exception to the rule quite amusing, given the generally e
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Despite Serge's assurances that all music (outside of that produced by UM students) is loaded with prana and carries the harmful energies of those who produce it, it's amusing to note that the work of Elvis Presley is exempt from this condemnation, and is embraced by many within the UM community. That's right, despite the copious drug abuse, relentless consumption of terribly unhea
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I noticed Andrea's blog has undergone a slight name change, so I guess she shut the old one down and carried the posted material over to the new site.
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QuoteCOncerned PartnerQuoteMacReadyAnother site questioning UM goes down. Andrea Cione's blog has been removed: hi MacReady, never fear Andrea is here. I dont know what happened but found it with a little searching. Thank you, Concerned. Glad to see it was just a false alarm.
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Another site questioning UM goes down. Andrea Cione's blog has been removed:
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QuoteCOncerned PartnerI Just borrowed this from the menu above "mind control" as it is very succint and a reminder of what we are all doing here. Bold and underscores are mine. Abusive Controlling Relationships "Destructive cults, groups, movements and/or leaders "maintain intense allegiance through the arguments of their ideology, and through social and psychological pr
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For anyone in the UM organization potentially reading this: No individual or organization claiming to offer only the 'Truth' would EVER discourage followers from reading and considering information that offers critical and/or alternative points of view. If Serge is warning students not to read this thread then it seems he is the one concerned about being 'exposed' rather th
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On the other hand, if he is the saviour (or even if he just thinks he is), I look forward to seeing his message to mankind at the United Nations televised globally for mere mortals the world over to see.
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If Serge is indeed now claiming to be the saviour of mankind, the he needs to revise his books and edit the EDG audio downloads, because in both cases he has repeatedly and emphatically declared to his students that physically speaking, 'nobody is coming to save you'. The whole point of 'doing the work' has been that the students are essentially their own saviours, and that by
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Hi Corboy, Shamballa indeed features in Serge's fantasy world: From memory he refers to it as Heaven, or at least the place where the Hierarchy hang out. Since he's now claiming to be a member of the Hierarchy (he used to just claim to be receiving impulses from them) it would follow that he's essentially claiming he's been there. He told students at one workshop tha
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The following review of Benhayon's second book 'A Treatise On Consciousness' illustrates the complete lack of critical thinking on behalf of UM students when consuming Serge's ideas in written form: The reviewer even admits: 'Whether Sci-Fi or not is besides the point' That's right. It doesn't matter whether it's completely fictional, bec
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QuotefrodobagginsDoes anyone know if Serge predicted the Melbourne earthquake? . No doubt it occurred due to all the excessive prana needing to be cleared down Gippsland way. Not to mention the resistance of the inhabitants of Moe to the esoteric fiery truth as impulsed by the 'ancient wisdom' (set. 1999) of the Hierarchy. One day science will prove i am right. My inner-heart decla
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QuoteGibbs I remember one lecture where Serge stood there and spoke about how he, and his wife Miranda made love, not sex. He then said he knew many people were jealous of their soulful lovemaking and how he could feel the jealousy of many in the group. He told us all to just admit when we were not making love. To be honest with ourselves that were just having sex with our partners. I also re
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QuoteGibbsQuoteSo the entities don't control people but essentially they control (!) or influence people as a result of bad choices. Logic would suggest that any bad choices an individual makes are the result of a thought process, otherwise they wouldn't be choices. Serge also teaches that we are incapable of individual thought, that all thoughts and ideas are impulsed to us either f
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QuoteGibbsMacReady Good points. I agree with everything you said. QuoteNote: Serge claims that murder, rape, suicide, pedophilia etc are all the result of entities entering and manipulating the perpetrator. How then can he claim that entities have no real power and as such are nothing to worry about? This is a good question. From what I know, the entities are given easy entry because of the
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QuotecorboyQuote• It is for this reason that Serge has taught – ‘comparison is a destroyer of what is already amazing and perfect for you in your life’ – SB. In comparison we want/need what another has we think is better or what would be best for us if we had it. In this, we further bury our own beauty and our own Heaven-ness in favour of what we think we need as opposed to what we already are. T
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QuoteGibbs "The most convincing entity sessions I witnessed was not like the pairing up. It was two separate times with a bout 6 different people. It was a fair while ago but I remember Serge would select a volunteer from the audience (joking one time about how the person was coached on what to say). Serge would stand at the back of the room while the person sat or stood on the stage. He w
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QuotecorboyQuote(Gibbs) It's quite possible that Serge really is capable of these amazing powers though, so I'd be keen to see him perform this exercise with a group of the scientists that he frequently claims he would like to debate on such matters. I'm sure they'd be most interested in experiencing this phenomena first hand for themselves, and recording/publishing the
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Regarding Serge's claim of being able to 'put entities into people and then remove them' I made mention of this in an earlier post. I have also experienced this alleged talent of Serge's first-hand and I felt ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER. I kept waiting to feel anything other than myself and nothing at all happened. The only apparent effect I observed in others was appa
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That's hilarious, or should that be 'Hilarion'? :-) If Serge is referring to Facebook, then why would he lower himself to engage in a medium so lacking in integrity, decency, morality and real truth? Answer:to increase exposure, 'people traffic' and thus money-intake for Universal Medicine. Maybe he's jealous that Facebook has made its founder billion
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There is apparently some concern within UM headquarters about the information that has been shared here and who we, the contributors are, but when one examines the claims Serge makes and internal logic (or lack thereof) within the UM cosmology, you have to wonder why. For example, Serge claims that any criticism directed against UM is proof that the teachings have touched the individual doing the
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QuotePranic AttackHi Sorry i've not posted lately, but i've just been catching up! Just an idea but has anyone consulted a hypnotherapist (is that right ?) Maybe it would be possible to break the hypnoitic spell cast by Serge and his chants and treatments etc ? Not too sure how the hypnotic thing works, but does seem UM followers must be on something as they believe stuff they
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Humour is fine. Humour that further alienates the people we care about and wish to communicate with will only compound the situation. The people who subscribe to the UM lifestyle are for the most part decent, lovely individuals. We don't want to terrorise them or anyone else for that matter. We just want to provide perspectives on and analyses of the belief system they are absorbing that the
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K_I_K, if you can, please re-post this in the main Universal Medicine thread. It's a solid contribution and will keep the UM focus in one concentrated area rather than have it scattered unnecessarily. All the best.
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QuotecorboyEric, the folks here are are not esoterrorists. Just trying to keep our loved ones healthy and our families intact. Agreed 100%. I make contributions here so that people, hopefully including those immersed in the UM community, can get a perspective on SB's teachings that they are not going to get within the controlled, rarefied atmosphere of a workshop or presentation. This is w
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Thanks for those responses. It's rather odd that no explicit mention is made of chakra-puncture courses in the UM training page: The question then is, does being qualified to practice acupuncture also qualify one to teach chakra-puncture? Especially considering (to answer my own 'ponderings') there are apparently differences beyond the title: Since chakra-puncture i
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