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11 years ago
MacReady
From the 'New Era' message: "It can be said that this year’s message is a message that will be very much alive and relative to and for the next 2600 years (approx)" While vague, I think that probably qualifies as a prediction worth noting.
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11 years ago
MacReady
Just for the record, Universal Medicine are actively engaged in a campaign of censorship by removing dissenting comments from their Facebook page. At least one was removed this morning. The students offering supportive comments are engaged in a more disturbing, tragic form of self-censorship: they're strategically omitting any reference to the supernatural claims Serge makes or their own bel
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11 years ago
MacReady
QuoteGibbsQuoteMacReadyBreast 'therapy' slammed The above article is incorrect in stating that Benhayon's sons have been trained in 'esoric breast massage'. Only female practitioners perform it. Apart from that unfortunate error, a solid article. From what I know, Serges son Curtis is actually qualified in the women's breast massage. Apparently he is the on
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11 years ago
MacReady
'we're saying things that people are ready to hear' - Serge Benhayon Note that his paying audience is also being told that the rest of the world, including the medical and scientific establishment, will not be ready for his 'esoteric' information and way of life for hundreds of years. In the interest of full disclosure, all of Serge Benhayon's audio downlo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
QuotefrodobagginsDoes anyone remember any of his crazy predictions? This is one area the articles are yet to focus on. He has had some crazy ones but I need facts ... Anyone here heard first hand of these? Or can reference his website where he makes his claims. Apart from the 'predictions' of increasing disease and natural disasters, Serge's books feature several claims that 
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
Quote from the article above: "we're saying things that people are ready to hear and it's their choice whether they come or not". The real question is Serge, is what you're saying true? You've acknowledged that you don't believe your own claim to be da Vinci incarnate, despite allowing followers to believe that for 13 years. Is that justifiable becau
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
Breast 'therapy' slammed The above article is incorrect in stating that Benhayon's sons have been trained in 'esoric breast massage'. Only female practitioners perform it. Apart from that unfortunate error, a solid article.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
Another piece from the ABC:
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11 years ago
MacReady
The zoominfo.com profile page appears to have been edited to remove the annual financial records. If I'm mistaken and just missing something, please feel free to correct me. The page was apparently last updated 1/6/12.
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11 years ago
MacReady
From ABC News: Universal Medicine man denies cult claim Posted July 23, 2012 15:37:30 The owner of a controversial health group based on the state's north coast denies it's a cult. Universal Medicine has a treatment centre near Lismore, and its website offers esoteric healing involving energy cells which it says make up the human spirit. The Therapeutic Goods Administra
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11 years ago
MacReady
Nice work, K_I_K. Just an observation: Serge has said he would debate the Dalai Lama over matter of re-incarnation and the soul. Such bold statements indicate an apparently bulletproof confidence in his own convictions. The Dalai Lama makes no secret of his religious beliefs and is constantly in the public arena. He doesn't omit details or lie just in case the general public don't sh
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
Quoteknowledge_is_kingQuoteMacReady Looks like the Therapeutic Goods Administration are interested in Serge's 'Eso Herbs': From within the article: "''I wish they would have just said to me, 'Hey, you're doing the wrong thing','' he said." - Serge Benhayon. Oh, yes, sorry Serge that is why these tax payer funded bodies exist,
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11 years ago
MacReady
QuoteHerbertKane178Further links: SOTT.net Doubtful News Freethought Blogs And these are just 3 of many more. Thank you, Herb. Here's the direct page link for that last one:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
For anyone in Australia negatively affected by UM and seeking advice:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
As you have accurately stated before CP, the charges Serge directs at others say far more about himself than anyone else. I've heard Serge say repeatedly that he would love to debate his claims with the world's intellectuals and that he refuses to dilute what he knows to be true in order to make his presentations more palatable to a wider audience. Yet at the first sign of media expo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
Considering the claim about being Leonardo da Vinci incarnate is just one of dozens of bizarre claims he has made, and considering he has admitted on record that he doesn't actually believe this claim himself (he just let's his followers believe it), I'm going to speculate that all of Serge's many supernatural claims are also severely lacking in the truth department. Accord
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11 years ago
MacReady
Thanks, Corboy. 'Using meditation to numb the full spectrum of human emotions - happiness to sorrow, despair, hopelessness and fear'. That sounds very familiar.
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11 years ago
MacReady
It's interesting to note now that Serge has recanted his erstwhile existence as Leonardo Da Vinci (still no word on Pythagoras, Plato, St. Francis of Assissi or Alice A. Bailey yet), the recent damage control pronouncements issuing forth from UM are written in a far more straight forward manner, and are largely devoid of any metaphysical or supernatural claims and/or references. If one reads
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11 years ago
MacReady
QuoteHerbertKane178Thanks CP, wise words, as always. I hope many UM members come to this site after Serge's name check of us (thanks Serge for that, appreciate it). Here they will find the truth of what we are, and be able to judge us for themselves, rather than the rather childish name calling that Serge has descended to. Welcome one and all. I would also like to extend an honest, hear
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11 years ago
MacReady
Excellent post CP, thank you. For any UM folks reading this I ask you to consider the following: Serge recanted his claims of being genius incarnate when queried by Heath Aston. So he has been lying to you all for 13 years. Considering that these claims, and the general belief in reincarnation inform every single aspect of the UM lifestyle and doctrine, how can you possibly continue to have fa
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11 years ago
MacReady
Serge's hypocrisy knows no limits. When he 'exposes' (condemns) anyone or anything that doesn't measure up to his divine measurements, he is simply 'stating truth in a loving way'. When he is exposed as a charlatan and an admitted liar, it's because of people who are 'not nice in their homes'. Serge, people's relationships are breaking down bec
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11 years ago
MacReady
Just to reiterate for any UM students reading this thread: BREAKING NEWS: NEW AGE GURU ADMITS HIS CLAIMS OF BEING DA VINCI INCARNATE WERE LIES. COMPLETE LACK OF ENERGETIC INTEGRITY EXPOSED
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
QuoteHerbertKane178http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/cult-cures-on-medicare-20120721-22gsn.html Very good article on Serge Benhayon and Universal Medicine from the Sydney Morning Herald. Wow. Thanks for the heads up, Herb. Quote: "A handful of people say what we have here is a cult. What if I can bring 2000 people to say it's not?'' - Serge Benhayon. Please bring thos
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11 years ago
MacReady
QuoteHerbertKane178I am laughing really hard at that CP! QuoteCOncerned PartnerQuoteMacReadyPerhaps it's fitting that Friends In Science And Medicine have Leonardo da Vinci's 'Vitruvian Man' on their homepage: Serge can explain to them that he drew that in a previous incarnation. ;-). I think he drew the one on the right... Touché! In all seriousness, I think
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
Perhaps it's fitting that Friends In Science And Medicine have Leonardo da Vinci's 'Vitruvian Man' on their homepage: Serge can explain to them that he drew that in a previous incarnation. ;-).
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11 years ago
MacReady
Thanks for all this info, Frodo. No doubt Serge is very excited about all this attention too since (as Rebecca stated), he is not hiding, and he has been wanting to debate the alleged science behind his 'ancient wisdom' with experts for some time now.
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11 years ago
MacReady
QuoteJohn lazurasThanks MacReady for the information on reincarnation, Serge also tells his follows that to be reincarnated that they must be cremated and leave the world with all their organs. I know of UM followers who have been registered as organ donors cancel their registration as a donor as almighty Serge has told them that they must keep their organs. Gee this guy has some great power an
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
Something occurred to me regarding the reincarnation issue. Obviously UM students believe in reincarnation, but I've never come across anyone who claims to have independently realized who they were in prior incarnations. Again, this information seems to be exclusive to Serge, who assures the students that they existed in Atlantis and Egypt, or were Cathars persecuted by the Catholic church.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
Nice find, Frodo. Serge can claim to be 'super pro-medicine' all he likes, but he also claims that any practitioner (whether in mainstream or alternative medicine) not following UM teachings has not healed themselves first, thus are incapable of 'truly' healing patients. Serge has repeatedly and explicitly stated many times that 'either you heal or you harm'. Ther
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
MacReady
If Serge is actually sexualizing women's hygiene products, (and doing so in a manner that deems sex 'dirty'), then he's just as unstable as a fundamental Christian Evangelist.
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