I listened to the video of bernard talking about smoking and his teeth. I was horrified to think that he would actually pull his own tooth out. My thought was that even with his own body, he feels: you are either with me or against me. And I guess we see what happens if you're against him.
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re:To which Valentin Rozman replies: "here will be no place for those who will not be interested for what is best for all. All abuse will end and if you are abusing this reality in any way whatsoever, wou will also end." Am I to understand that one who does not believe in the destini cult lifestyle and ways, is not worthy to live? And what do they (bernard and the adm) feel shoul
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First let me say, I would so appreciate it if destini would emphasize not to use run on (and on and on.....and on ...and on) sentences. I would think with Daryl's background he would be able to tutor them in writing an understandable paragraph. I am glad to read that Andrew, the artist behind the halloween costume, is admitting that destini is indeed a pyramid scheme. I'm sure that
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Thank you Corboy and Anticult for making this info so clear. When one is in the middle of this stuff, it's sometimes difficult to make the comparisons. Although I must say I have always made the drug addict and dealer connection. As a parent, it's almost easier to deal with (I don't mean that as it sounds) what I'm trying to say is an internet cult that is snowing your child i
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I read this blog by Valentin. The trip to the farm sounded great! Thousands of dollars to get there and it sounded like he was chastised by bernard most of the time. No wonder he seemed to befriend the cat! I read on and was horrified at darryl making such a big deal of nothing. There is NO normal thinking person that would think that this guy was blaming destini for the luggage fee!!! What the
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Very well said The Anticult. How true now that I read your words and look at the leader. If one buys a car and get a 'lemon', they can complain and possibly get something done to repair it. If more and more come to buy a car and keep getting 'lemons' (equivilent to lies), eventually people will wise up and the car dealer will go out of business. Hopefully destini membe
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Hi Nadine and others, Thanks for posting Nadine. Corboy I hear you on the dieting. I see the problem as not the 'dieting' so to speak. But the control as you mentioned. And WHY OH WHY cant these members see this? I have dieted, but for a reason. And I wasnt directed by an evil man in a costume to do so. I did it for myself and felt good when I achieve my goal. I dont think that
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That's what I love about this forum.. if I stray into emotions that aren't warranted, I am always reigned back in! But I must say there is a part of me that feels bad for this young guy 'Gian'. I know well, how control is one of the main strategies bernard uses. I just say to myself 'what the heck are they eating in SA?' "what is going on there with no one wo
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Thanks Sandman. I find it so hard to believe, call me crazy, but how does one depend on your followers to pay your bills? I am going to look into this more in depth. Gian... I find it so sad listening to him. He tries to act happy, but his voice is shaky and he is so nervous speaking. Now a young guy like him would be working or at school studying. I wonder where his parents are? I think th
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Hi All, I have been thinking of this question and wonder if anyone can answer it. Do bernard or any of the members of destini that live on the farm in SA work for a living? I mean outside the farm. If not, than one would have to deduct that they are living from the money sent to them from the members for the courses, stays at the farm, etc. As one with bills every month, I find this just
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Thank you POLO for giving us insight as to how destini goes about recruiting. POLO, were you asked to go to SA? What did they expect you to do once you got there? And what is your perception of what you would actually BE doing? Corboy, thanks for your excellent points. Hopefully anyone contemplating going to their farm will find their way here before going, so they can follow these st
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Thanks Mindtracker, It is amazing to me as well. I find it very interesting that a group that wants to start a political party is so into people's minds, ie: their thoughts, why they have these thoughts, so they forgive themselves for RIDICULOUS things, etc. To me they are all over the page on the above issue. From what I can see they are: 1. an online school of their learning (?)
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Thanks Thom. How did denstini come about. I take it with sunette. Was she involved with an equal money system before coming to destini. I don't get how the portal interviewing the dead has a thing to do with the equal money system, that desini has now taken on as their reason for existence. Am I correct in assuming that destini has changed it's mission since it's inception? Or does
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I was thinking something along the same lines. destini claims to be 'one and equal', yet there are things about their website I find troubling. First of all, if they do indeed think that we are all one and equal, shouldn't they forgive us for not following their belief system, with no critisism . We will do what we feel is right to help those in need. The world has always and wil
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Well, I should say so Corboy. Your points are very well taken. As I have said and will repeat again. Why are all the destini members faces on next to their names and the leaders is in a repilian, animal type costume? From the first moment I saw this, I thought it odd. Can anyone here imagine looking for a doctor, lawyer, or any trade you needed to contact for help. You asked for their bio an
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I am so upset and amazed at the same time. I find it so hard to believe that someone would be this evil. I listened to ea Rossouw's video describing her very warped version of 'the family'. destini seems to want it both ways, they call themselves 'family' ( I guess to one another), yet they tear apart 'The Family". I would like to know if Andrea has any chil
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To be perfectly honest, I was quite taken back at the mention of euthanasia. A loved one of mine is a 'member' of denstini. I have combed the internet trying to find former or ex members, to see if they could help us, and then found RR. I can see how my posts may have looked suspicious to those who deplore cults, (as I do I can assure you), but it was certainly not my intention.
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You're absolutely right Sandman. Sorry.
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Does anyone here know if the authorities in SA are 'watching' destini and the going's on of this evil man? From my personal experience, I have found that destini is ONLY interested in everyone in the world having the same... PIE IN THE SKY at best. I know that he has a big plan for him and the few up on the top, but I've never seen this. (euthanasia). This is very dangerous an
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I am new to this forum. I read your posts every night re: destini, bernard and his gang ... I would like to say that for all their talk of equality and equal money, they seem to be very unfriendly to anyone who disagrees with them, or does for example beleive in God. I find it very upsetting and disturbing to read the garbage on their website. Please feel free to comment. and have a nice da
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