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11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
I just thought I should mention that I don't lie and am not a dishonest person. I am not writing on this website because I think I can write here without being accountable for what I say, as I have stated before i am writing here because i know this forum is not likely to be shut down. Personally i don't care if anyone knows who I am, I was only being anonymous because it is one of the
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Thanks Keir, I appreciate your support. What happened to the delay of the postings with moderator looking at them? I think I will have to start my full critique of Pritchard for sure next week.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Spreading Lies? Only someone who believes that someone is either with them or against them (a fanatic) would accuse someone of telling ties , because they have a difference of opinion with him. I should mention to all those who are interested that this is the first time, that I am aware of this book being available to general public. Why don't you make it readable on google books or some
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
I just had some thoughts about one of the points of warnings signs created by Rick Ross. 10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible. From my experience being with the Gnostic Movement led by Mark Pritchard (who claims to be Belzebuub). I believe that they create and feel an
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Remember when we talk about things like Subconscious, ego etc that refer to who the human psyche and personality work to through out the meanings of these words that are used by people in the cult that you come from. It is really disgusting that they insult psychology and the ideas that have been generated over the years yet they use those ideas at the same time.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Thanks for that reference, Keir It would be interesting to figure out how many people since Victor Gomez Sr. have declared themselves to be masters. I know of Joaquin Amortequi (Robolu) and Mark Pritchard. I would assume that his wife, Litelante (?) and his son, Osiris declared themselves masters of some sort.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Thanks for your supportive thoughts on that Keir, I have seen it quoted in a few places about him starting the POSCLA but it would be good to have so sort of documentation to prove it. Also it would help to show that he was an admirer or Hitler or at least Nazi Germany. So you can say to people look there is the the evidence. It is time that people realized that the writings of Samael Aun W
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
I was not that impressed with the last book but it is something quote on some details of Samael Aun Woer if you need it. The author gives way to much credit to him. It is really strange that free thinking new age authors can accept anything he said, since he goes against everything they stand for. Here is a book that might be good that is referenced by google books if anyone can get their hand
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Here is another book, writing about The Gnostic Church in Brazil. This person gives what could be called an unbiased account of Samael Aun Weor. I think page 50 is the page to see. I haven't read the whole thing yet but i Thought i would pass the link along to others.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Ok so after saying I couldn't find an academic book I found one that makes a reference to Ageac, I am not sure what that stands for but it is one of the samaelean groups. The book is called Healing or Stealing? By Jean-Marie Abgrall and you look at it on google books. There is the link, the reference starts on page 160 and goes to about 168. Although not all pages are viewable i thou
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Yes there is serious language barrier. I have found one reference to an academic study of Victor Gomez's (Samael Aun Woer) teaching. The problem is that it is in Spanish and as you pointed out most people who are falling for his nonsense now are from the English speaking world. Although you can see it if you read between the lines of his writings it would be great to be able to transl
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Hi Keir, I agree with you, that it is better to create a seperate post. I will put a link here and notice once I start the post, in regards to Mark Pritchard (who calls himself Belzebuub). It would also be good if we could create a network of ex Samaeleans, to support each other in a quest to find what we were really looking for when we got into Victor Gomez's (Samael Aun Weor) garbage
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Personally, I think there is a lot of room for debate and open minded scientific exploration into what happens when people have astral experiences. How can we really be sure we are being objective. How do we know we are having an astral experience and not just dreaming or having a lucid experience. So much of this is dependent on what you belief in. I am not sure you would be any more like
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Thanks for the encouragement Keir, From what you say I really think I like what is going here, also just noticing today that there is quite a momentum of people writing about Samaelean Gnostics here is a positive sign. It is an interesting feeling for me right now that I want to go and try to convince certain people who are involve with the Gnostic Movement of their foulishness, but I am su
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
It seems to be the lust for power is forgotten by these people. The one human weakness they seem to deny. It's great to hear that you have taken away a respect for other world religions. You should try learning about them on your own. They are much more beautiful and complex then the Samaelian Gnostic make them out to be. Recently I have been reading about the teachings of Buddha it is qu
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
I hope this is ok to write here. Mark Pritchard claims that he is a devine master, the only living, teaching devine master also that to deny and/or reject a devine master will put you in a state that you can never awaken spiritually. He also claims to be the reincarnation essentially of Belzebuub the head of the demons who has been brought back to the side of good. This is based on crazy bo
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Hi Quest, Good point, although I was only involved with the Gnostic Movement, there talk about Karma really messed me up. What helped me was realizing that they don't know what they are talking about. Everything in the teachings of Samael (which means the grim reaper by the way) comes from another religion or at least another person. Reading about Karma from the Buddhist or Hindu tradi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Thanks Keir, That information really helps. I was wondering how safe it is to post here? If I put information that Gnostic Movement members don't like on this forum do they have a way to take it down? I mean of course as long as I follow all the rules here will what i post stay here, even if they don't like it? At the moment this forum seems to be the safest place, unless a group
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
My involvement was with Mark Pritchard's so called Gnostic Movement. I can relate to most of what you talk about. The scary thing about the Gnostic Movement thou it is that they make it feel like you are doing all this of your own free will. I feel I was motivated to advance by my desire to be around other people of similar interests and to have a place to explore those interests. The fa
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
notanantiGnostic
I am trying to figure out how to help spread the word about the dangers of the Gnostic movement and to a certain degree other Samaelean Gnostic groups. This is the only cult awareness website that has information, and it still needs an info page for these matters. If anyone has suggestions about how to spread the news on them that would be great. I have come to believe that their weakest p
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Is it the Gnostic movement Centre there? It is a rather large and active centre from what i have heard. The most useful thing for you to know is that they start people of with meditation or a dreams course or a course called self discovery to work on yourself. They present themselves as a group that is open to all world spiritualities and not until much later to they let you know that they bel
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 years ago
notanantiGnostic
I wonder now what means are legal and beyond procecution to spread the news about how manipulative this organization is, as they seem to be very keen to quiet those that don't conform. I predict that as a result of the power of their organization The Gnostic Movement will be a much larger organization in a few years. I think the other Samaelite groups are pretty well lame ducks, in the En
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 years ago
notanantiGnostic
Hi loger1, I do know a great degree about the Gnostic Movement lead by Mark Pritchard as I just escaped the movement. However i am not sure what to describe as a ritual as the "teachings" involve every aspect of ones life. Their main focus seems to be working on your self in the dream state and the day time state. They believe in what the call three keys, 1. working on the Egos (
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