Corboy and all interested parties ~ The full PDF text is found here: The Hindus: An Alternative History by Wendy Doniger Scroll down to download.
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Vox~ Apparently chocolate has 4% cockroach parts in the pods so can not really be considered vegetarian. So how is it that followers can cannibalistic-ally consider guru toenails vegetarian? Isn't this against one of the 4 regulative principals!? LOL!
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Expecto Patronum!* Ha! The real reason the "Dementor Butler" does not want the kids to see Harry Potter books and movies is that there is no "Jagad Guru" model in the stories. Dumbledore was a wizard, a teacher, an administrator. He never claimed to be a supreme, perfected, infallible being. He made mistakes, was selfless, fair, and well meaning. He was gay too (accord
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Butler is not "your friendly neighborhood Spiderman guru". Many ex followers and current ones report that Butler presents himself as having mystical powers and "knows things". Followers have always expressed fears when they share doubts. Butler continues to claim to be in complete communion with the g0dhead and therefore has all the answers. The rule is that if you wan
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Pam, It does not matter who made the entry as it has already been publicly established, by her own admission, that Tulsi is connected to both ISKCON and Butler. Additionally, Mike Gabbard claimed copy rights on a letter proving his connections to ISKCON and Butler. Flash has presented enough evidence to prove this. No matter how much SOI may try to split hairs, theirs is the same philosophy
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Vox - clear up your PM space. Have something to send.
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Best summer ever. I am so impressed with all the new energy, research, dedication, camaraderie, and courage. Carry on. I can leave the fort now.
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Here is another great Radhika video. She does a great job destroying the hidden agenda in the story. It's worth listening to the whole thing to get the long and short of it. She demonstrates how destructive cult philosophies are embedded even in children's stories. This will really hit home for all of the kids who were neglected by their families in the cult. You will find that the
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Flash ~ Remember also that in the 1990's Tusta did a lot of leg work and diplomacy with competing gurus and co-founded The World Vaishnava Association. Butler was getting politically isolated in the guru world. He was losing followers to the more "mellow" Indian guys who came to America and also Hawaii to fill the void left by the territorial AC Bhaktivedanta Swami. (People
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Macho Mantrics - By "J.J"
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Tulsi finally acknowledges Chris Butler as her guru and AC Bhaktivedanta as her "spiritual grandfather"! Does this also mean that Tulsi acknowledges that she only has a 34 oz brain? Srila Prabhupada: Expert Historian and Big, Big Feminist Why Hare Krishna Women Will Always Encounter Misogyny (By Radhika Bianchi Diaz) The Consequences of Growing up in a Misogynistic Cult
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SOI has acknowledged authenticity by claiming copyright for the many documents that have been removed on this forum, thus proving the assertions made here. I got flak on and off the forum for posting these documents many years ago and many people tried to take them down. Until recently, they could deny that the documents were authentic. They remained on this forum for over 6 years.
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To answer cfig's question: When did old Butler say women could be pure devotees? That goes back to the beginning. As far back as 1970 Chris Butler declared Kathy Hoshijo a pure devotee. People served and bowed down to her. Does that mean he is a feminist? Does that mean he respects women? No, he is an equal opportunity misanthrope who will use anyone for his purposes. From the
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Radhika Bianchi does a great parody of one of the stories that all Butler devotee kids grow up hearing. There sure is a lot of homoerotic liturature in the homophobic cult... Lord Chaitanya's Loving Pastimes with His Associates
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Thanks Dharmabum for the Aum Beep Beep video. Radhika Bianchi has made other worthwhile videos. She is a former "Hare Krishna" ISKCON kid who grew up in and left that cult. With very few variances, she speaks about the same philosophy as children who grow up in Chris Butler's cult. Both groups: - Worship a guru as infallible, both called "Prabhupad". - Segreg
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Quotecorboy Why should any of the Gabbards want to change this? In Butler's system, they are Brahmins. Their status is validated by those devotees kept at the lower levels of the system. You are right. There is no motivation to change since they are living as Brahminical caste elites. Of course they will deny there is a caste system while they live within one. As long as the low
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Chris Butler and his SOI minions have taken down many of the primary historical documents regarding the inner workings of the cult that were connected to my posts here on the CEI forum. No worries. There are copies everywhere. They will be re-posted under Fair Use laws. If anyone wants to view them, they may PM me. ~ Vera
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Quote Rama Ranson vs The Cult John Connor says: “Rama’s post about possible attacks raised a concern. He’s correct that these brainwashed followers might feel they need to protect their old guru using violence or other actions. Rama should make another post warning that any attacks against him or any other contributors to the Cult Education Forum will be met with a severe push back that will ca
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Thanks Rick. Good to know nothing has been hacked.
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Recently on NPR the host asked about Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders's (D) dual citizenship with the US and Israel. It wasn't true. Bernie Sanders was shocked and indignant about the implications. NPR's Diane Rehm asks Bernie Sanders about Israeli citizenship rumors Diane Rehm was wrong. But the purpose of the question was to discredit a major competition against Hil
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Testing. Curiously timed inability to post on this forum...
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Hi SeePony~ Hinduism is a spectrum religion, as is Christianity. Tulsi is considered one of their own as Vaishnavism is under the Hindu umbrella. People like it when one of their own makes it big. So both Hindu's and local Hawaiians want to bask in the light of Tulsi's star. Unfortunately,the star struck are blinded. The problem is that everyone is focusing on Tulsi's rel
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Taqiya Tulsi Quotedharmabum Shameless Tulsi continues to peddle her misleading "I am Hindu" mantra... Her anti-ISIS stance is an oxymoron -- the belief system she grew up into is really no different -- the only difference is that the radical islamists are very blunt about harming people who don't share their core belief, the Haribols are lacking balls (for now). Another simi
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The last few weeks have made my decade on this forum! 1) Rama body slams the hypocrisies of the Cult of Butler on his blog. Rama Ranson VS the Cult We are all reminded of the innumerable, unquestioning “Prabhupad says…” and all the thought stopping phrases and excuses to not think. Doesn’t anyone else see how extraordinarily weird it is that they all follow guru Chris Butler but are for
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We missed you googster! Great to have you back. QuoteMessage from You Know Who: Jagged Prabhufraud says, "It's not a joke, it's a rope, Tuco. Now I want you to get up there and put your head in that noose." Tuco says, "There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend: Those with a rope around the neck, and the people who have the job of doing the cutting
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Rama ~ LOVE that you posted the foot bath photo again. SOI has NO rights to it. It belongs to the photographer who left the cult with negatives and camera.
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They try to bury us, but they don't know that we are seeds.
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They try to bury us, but they didn't know we are seeds.
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This post is in light of SOI taking down a photo which does not belong to them. Lying to Photobucket and claiming copyright, you stole a photo showing Butler's feet being washed, just as you stole years of the photographer's life. With your right red hand you try to suppress the truth. No matter. You can't steal or hide the truth forever. You can threaten, harass, cajole, s
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Right Rama and dharmabum. Yep. Sweat pants, turtle neck, and silk Chinese or fleece jacket (this little number is in VD clown colors). WHY IS THIS MAN SMILING? Smiling all the way to the bank and presumably passing out toenail clipping "Maha". He is probably smiling while humiliating a follower. Here are some great posts from the past. I do not think a majority
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