Whoa, that's amazing, Anticult. That sure could be where she got the term "The Work", and then added on "of Byron Katie". Check this out: [Mary Poppins Recut]
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QuoteJay CruiseI don't know if this is helpful but I found Charlie Hayes on youtube doing "The Work" with Byron Katie. "Thank you for dying on time" Man, you're good! Byron Katie looks so angry in that video. And Charlie is a pussycat. Very different from how I witnessed him.
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[On The Controversy Over Ramesh Balsekar - by Timothy Conway]
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Thanks for that, Jay. Byron Katie in that video: "Life comes out of your imagination." Yeah, right. I'll try that one on my landlord at the end of the month: "I'm not paying you rent anymore. I've just been imagining you."
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A little more on why I feel strongly about getting the word out on Byron Katie... I unfortunately know very well what it feels like to feel deeply depressed to the point of being suicidal. When I was considering attending BK's school last year, I was in pretty bad shape. It's just so fortunate that while in that fragile state, I started to get incredibly concerned about my ability t
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QuotecorboyAmen. People have commented on Janaki's site, thanking her for her information, as it gave them information they needed to decide for themselves not to go to 'School'. Given the reports of secrecy, people need to understand that they are doing a community service to speak up, and speak out. And yes, on the internet, if others think your material is valuable, they w
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I understand that "A" from Guruphiliac is feeling uncomfortable with his/her posts appearing here. Yes, I can understand him/her feeling uncomfortable about expressing oneself about this stuff. However, "A" is an adult posting in a public forum. Does he/she not know how the internet works? Doesn't he/she want the information about Byron Katie to reach as many peop
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QuoteThe AnticultThis is all accurate. The stuff about the "invitations" is more of the specific technical permissive language BK uses. That is from the "permissive" branch of the new hypnotherapy. This is why BK constantly says...I INVITE you to do _____. That permissive invitation, is more powerful than a direct suggestion. Here is a "testimony" of an alleged
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From a comment by "Rain" at "The Work of Byron Katie and Unschooling" site: "I guess my take is that "the work" is a tool and nothing more. This tool does not make Katie special more than you or me. And there are flaws (that over time became untruths) in her story, not only from what I shared in those 2 posts, but I have a close friend who worked with her yea
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QuoteThe Anticultif anyone wants to see an example of almost completely patterned BK thought, check this one out. She posted under the posting name Jennifer Ironstone I noticed that as well. Eerily similar. I had to stop reading her because I didn't want BK-speak to be swirling through my mind. Here's an example of a "certified facilitator" mimicking Byron Katie: Celes
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QuotecorboyHere is something told me by an attorney about how to care for people who are victims of a Ponzi scheme--a situation where feeling fooled is combined with the anguish of losing ones money. My informant learned this via a continuing education class--and it discussed Ponzi schemes some years before Bernie Madoff hit hit the news. The lawyer who gave the presentation had an astute a
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This is a blog entry from a supporter of The Work expressing concern about the problematic reports coming out. From "Rain's Authentic Blog", dated April 10, 2009... A conversation about "The Work" This is a response to a conversation on the blog Waves Arising Suddenly about "The Work" and Byron Katie that I found after a disturbing post I found about what
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QuoteThe AnticultAnother BK supporter, asked many of her BK associates what happened at the BK School seminar, NONE of them would tell her. How sick is that, for one BK supporter, to not tell another BK supporter, what goes on in the seminars? Its almost like a type of sandbagging of your own friends, or setting them up. She had to find out from a recent post. The irony is that those who are opp
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QuoteswampseerHow does BK do that...swear her seminar attendees to secrecy? From JJ52: "With many reservations, I attended her 9 day school. We were sworn to secrecy about the events that go on there so as not to "spoil it for others" who would attend in the future. " [http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?4,9147,53392#msg-53392] And then someone else (don't ha
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TAC, I can't find the "cached" option. ? Edit: Never mind, I found it!
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Note: it's spelled "Steven", not "Stephen". Search engines!
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Steven Sashen's Amazon.com profile: I'm the creator of the Quantum Wealth class at www.quantumwealth.com... here's a description that's *full* of buzzwords. If you want me to explain them, drop me a line: Quantum Wealth uses your relationship to money as the focus of a post-psychological, non-dual transformation methodology that produces immediate, lasting and tangible r
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QuoteThe AnticultCharlie Hayes is copying Werner Erhard with his ASSHOLE trip. That was Wener's favorite word, they called them ESTholes. Asshole, Esthole, same thing. Verbal abuse to dominate. My exhusband took an EST seminar many years ago and spoke of ESTholes. Hee. At his "nondualityexpression" YouTube account, Charlie says he did EST and later spent "several months
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I found this interesting tidbit re Steven Sashen at his buddy Yanik Silver's "Sure Fire Marketing" site. It's in hot sheet #14, dated October 21, 2005: Also, I’m passing on a little “help wanted” ad for my friend, Steve Sashen Can you write a better headline than this? (or know someone who can?) Net-savvy entrepreneur looking for marketing partner in niche venture. Fo
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QuoteswampseerI wonder if the message comes across (elsewhere on the board, in other posts) with a firehose effect that drowns the victims you're trying to save. Hi swampseer, I do sometimes feel concerned about that. When I first arrived at this forum, I could not imagine that BK was anything but sincere and on top of that could barely take in TAC's discussions of hypnotic and NLP t
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I agree that Charlie may still be suffering from mental illness. He has mentioned having a diagnosis of bipolar illness and could very well be in the manic aspect of that condition with his hopped up certainty that he no longer ever suffers AND can lead people to achieve the same. Consider the following lengthy announcement from Charlie in "Nonduality Salon Highlights", dated January 13
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Steven Sashen, former "Curriculum Director" for The School for The Work, continues to promote The Work on his website. In the comments section of a blog entry by "Cosmic Connie", someone (maybe it's more than one person?) points out some problems with alleged Anti-Guru Steven Sashen: Anonymous said... I hate to criticize a criticizer...but Houston...we have a prob
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Adding another previously linked item from the big thread on Byron Katie: [The School For The Work - I Got Schooled Blog]
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Found something else... a discussion by members of a group called "The Work of Byron and Unschooling". Mostly pro-Work, but in the thread there's a link to this board's reports from BK event participants and several mentions of Janaki's blog. [The Work of Byron Katie and Unschooling] (Note: comments are ordered with the most recent one appearing first.)
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Okay, I dug up a School for the Work report by someone very much enamored of Byron Katie. Interesting to look at and see how some not necessarily loving characteristics of BK are rationalized away. It's a recent report, dated October 12, 2008, but the School appears to have taken place in the spring of 2007, since the author mentions that news of the Virginia Tech massacre was arising in
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QuotecorboyIf bored, go to Google and put 'Ken Wilber' 'Bernie Glassman' and 'Gempo Roshi' together and see what ya get. Aside from the New Wage/Inspiration Industry scene.. the only other social scene venue where you can witness an equivalent amount of derriere sniffing is at the local dog park. [The Enlightened Beings Club]
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Regarding the Bhagavad Gita... wow. I had a similar experience when I was enrolled in an interfaith seminary and required to read the Koran. It wasn't long before I felt horrified by what I was reading, to such an extent that I dropped out of the seminary and never went back. Was relieved years later when I came across this and discovered I was not alone in my reaction: [Why I Left Isl
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Here are two excerpts from Janaki's lengthy behind-the-scenes-with-Byron-Katie story (Byron Katie & Janaki): 33 - The End of Suffering ‘The end of suffering’ brings me to my own personal loyalty conflict that I have been experiencing towards Katie for several years. I would hold back when addressing this, because I didn’t want to contradict her publicly. I find it highly misle
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QuoteThe Anticultthese guys can see a gravy train from miles away. Bernie Glassman even takes his wealthy Zen yuppies in to eat the food of those in need. Sounds like Byron Katie copied that "homeless" method from him. QUOTE "Bernie Glassman has become known for his many "street retreats." Author James Ishmael Ford writes, "...'street retreats,' for in
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