QuotequackdaveI'm with you, there hm2x. To paraphrase something said a few times before on this thread, there are many so called 'guru busters' out there who actually are putting down all but the guru that they are 'in bed with', as a sort of deflection from the true issues. Did you notice how Jody absolutely steers clear of any response to the Seung Sahn issue, which is
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QuotequackdaveQuoteThe AnticultWhy would anyone JOIN a group right at the time the sex scandals are becoming public, and most people are leaving the group? I have an idea: Maybe ol' Stewie is putting his 'boo-boo' where it doesn't belong, like his master. It's only my guess, of course; it could be way more sickening than that. qd Jeez Louise, I was pondering something si
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Jody the "Guruphiliac" has weighed in on the comments he's been allowing re Stuart: jody radzik said... "To be honest, I find these criticisms of Stuart totally lame. The only reason I'm posting them is because it provides Stuart more contrast from which to make his points." Why am I not surprised? This is someone who allows himself to be swayed in reporting o
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A cross-post re Stuart Resnick: [http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,12906,71919#msg-71919]
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The subject of Stuart Resnick aka Randomstu has reared its head again... In the comments section of a recent Guruphiliac blog entry, someone took issue with the commenting of Stuart Resnick and in addition mentioned the Rick Ross forum: QuoteAt 5/12/2009 6:47 PM, Anonymous said... Jody, I've been reading posts by this guy, Stuart, for years now. Something just hasn't set r
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QuoteChristaThere is some hope/fear that this is a fake of some sort. I'm not one of the people researching that, but I will post here as soon as there's a definitive answer. Unfortunately this looks to be real. Tony has definitely got a reality show in development: [Tony Robbins Lands NBC Reality Show] Edit: Oops, I see it's already been established that he has a tv show in
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Quotehelpme2times_________________________________________ QUOTE: More on ‘BK copyright’: The format of and idea for ‘Tao living in Harmony with the way things are’ is in no way originating from Byron Katie and/or Stephen Mitchell. In 1991, a book by Greg Johanson and Ron Kurtz called 'Psychotherapy in the spirit of the Tao-te ching' was published by Bell Tower (it was reprinted b
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Byron Katie's all a-twitter! What I mean is... Byron Katie has joined the world of Twitter, as of 3-22-09. Here is Byron Katie's first tweet: Quoteam holding grand, grand daughter Marley! Just walked out of the last session of the School for The Work and there she was, waiting for me What a surprise... BK's very first tweet makes sure to mention her School. Her sec
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I agree, the information on Seung Sahn's sex scandal from the book Turning The Wheel is important. Related to this... I've found a series of articles re problems with Zen by Stuart Lachs. [Stuart Lachs - American Zen] In an introduction to the articles, Lachs says: QuoteI have been a Zen practitioner for roughly forty years. Many years ago I became interested in viewing Z
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A look at the sex scandal of Seung Sahn in the book Turning The Wheel: American Women Creating The New Buddhism by Sandy Boucher (Boston: Beacon Press, 1993)... Excerpts from pp. 225-230: QuoteIn most situations in which the teacher is having sexual relations with students, it is not the actions themselves that prove destructive, but the secrecy in which they are pursued. Students believe
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I've just been notified of another web page featuring Stuart Resnick, aka RandomStu. It's from "Ode Magazine": [People: RandomStu] "A middle-aged guy in Berkeley CA, interested in exploring the mind through formal Zen practice, entheogens, or any means necessary. I blog about meditation teachers, groups, techniques, and whatever relates to the Big Questions of Life
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A reminder about why I am posting here in this thread on Byron Katie, whose "Work" has promised "an end to suffering"... Reports such as the following thankfully kept me from enrolling in Byron Katie's "school: [Rick Ross Forum Report re Byron Katie's School] [Byron Katie's School for the Work - March '09] I know this has been quoted before
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QuoteJay CruiseYou're not alone there. I skim too. I actually had to debrief myself a few times when she had my head spinning. And, for the most part, it's not worth patiently waiting for her to make a point that never arrives. I've finished skimming through all of "A Thousand Names For Joy". I did my best to count up all the STORIES in the book. Here is how many S
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QuoteThe AnticultQuoteCruzA friend of mine who frequently visits Byron Katie’s Institute For The Work Forum brought the following to my attention. A few days ago someone quoted some info from your site regarding the true origin of Byron Katie’s ‘Tao book’. This contribution turned out to be the last entry on the ‘open’ forum. About an hour later the forum was closed “in order to better serve"
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All this talk of Byron Katie and the cockroach and other vermin... makes me think of her with a new name now... Byron Cootie!
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Quotehelpme2timesThen there is yet another telling of the Byron Katie Cockroach Extravaganza STORY. (That STORY sure gets milked!) Oops. I have made an error and now I must correct myself. It's regarding what I thought was a re-telling of the Cockroach Story in the Preface of "A Thousand Names For Joy". Maybe I made the error because I am so used to skimming Byron Katie wr
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QuotecorboyThe last thing kids need to be taught is how to turn things around against their parents. I think it might be inspirational for us to do a Seventies music revival and go listen to 'We Dont Need No Education' by Pink Floyd, from their great album, The Wall. Truly amazing how coincidence works. The Work The Way and... as a consciousness raising trance breaking
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Ah yes... who would we be without our story? For someone who wants us to be without a story, why is Byron Katie putting out more and more books? Books = stories. I've got in my hot little hands a second-hand copy of "A Thousand Names For Joy". Last year I skimmed through a library copy of the "Joy" book. My recall is that the book had too many parts that were
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Byron Katie's latest blogging contains a letter and a response. [Letter: When you get it] The alleged letter writer mentions the "Loving What Is" book, the audio version of it, "subsequent audios", the "Parlor", even speaks of his son attending an upcoming school. Talk about advertising! (If this letter is even real, then I'm relieved the son
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To certain readers of this thread... Information that may seem to have "disappeared"... it isn't gone. There are ways and ways to access these things and prove they existed. Thank you. HM2X This has been a public service announcement sponsored by Survivors Who Are Mentally Interesting (SWAMI) South Central Chapter ;-)
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To everyone participating in this thread... Particularly those who have worked so diligently and so persistently in getting information out about TW... and you know who you are... THANK YOU
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Re the "Take Back Your Life" book, I did read a bit of it again last night, but I may not finish it at this time. It does seem to me that I've received such a good education re coercive groups, thought reform, etc. from my participation in this forum that I don't need to beat myself over the head with yet more info! I can always go back to the book at any point in time.
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Corboy, thank you so much for sharing that article. I thought it was wonderful. And very germane to this discussion. Quote from the article (bold emphasis is mine): But that afternoon in July 2006, driving from his home in Brewster, N.Y., to the shrink’s office in Bedford Hills, he was frantic with anxiety. He found a seat facing the door, consumed with the feeling that no one could see
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Hi Ekb, Your situation sounds exceedingly unpleasant. I'm so sorry you're going through it. Unfortunately I don't have any personal experience with the scenario you describe, nor am I certain about how best to handle it. However, since no one has yet answered your plea for help (hopefully someone will come along and do that!), I'll take a stab at answering you. Obviou
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From some mysterious place in my subconscious mind, the germ of an idea has sprung forth in connection with kicking out Byron Katie from my mind-soul-life... The basic idea that's come up is... BK is a PINATA and I get to WHACK the heck out of it with a STICK! It's a simple but powerful idea and I'm letting my mind play around with it... Since it's been many, many ye
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Quotehelpme2timesAnyone who has had an unhappy experience with Byron Katie's organization may wish to file a complaint with one or more agencies. Consumers have a right to do such a thing. This is a link to a post made last year regarding the filing of complaints: [Filing Complaints re Byron Katie] I didn't see a link in the above post for the Better Business Bureau... that is
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Carol, I read all about your experiences with The Way AND your very difficult health challenges. My heart goes out to you for all you've been through and I applaud your strenuous efforts to find healing and even wellness. Also I can deeply relate to quite a few things you shared about yourself. I'd rather not be specific about that. (At least not at this time.) Ye gods, I didn&#
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QuotejchpiperThanks again H. "Mind rape and soul rape" do not sound extreme to me; I understand those terms but from another group. After reading various experiences I can see how it can happen with The Work. After reading the exercise itself, I can see it's not something I would find beneficial. Is your experience in this thread somewhere? I understand if you're not comf
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QuotejchpiperThanks for the welcome h2t. I can't say I understand the article completely, but many points really hit home. I shared it with a therapist this morning who after reading it suggested I might enjoy Janja Lalich's book Bounded Choice. I've read one of her (co-authored) books, but not that one. Where I saw myself as a 'binder' were certain things I'
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Thanks, RR. Eek, I can only imagine what Jim tried to post before he got the boot.
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