QuotejchpiperWow! What an article! I've only read through it once and have printed it to study more. I also want to read the author's examples in the link provided at the end of the article. S/he articulates so much of my own experiences. I also recognize where I have (at times) been the binder. :-( Hi Carol and welcome. :-) I have to admit that I felt challenged in completely
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QuoteThe Anticult...why don't you do The Work on your own comments? According to Byron Katie, your comments are really all about YOU, right? According to your own alleged practice of the Work, your thoughts are NOT true, and you should question them, and erase them, and do a turnaround on them, right? So that would make your thoughts...paranoid, angry, defensive, misleading, etc. Right?
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QuoteJimDoddsDo you think that someone sees Katie as not human? Who is this "someone" you are referring to?
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QuoteJimDoddsJust like you do? Good grief, man! Do you think that someone sees Katie as not human? What on earth are you referring to? If you want to be understood, you will need to quote which words sparked your reaction.
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QuoteJimDoddsKeep scoffing. You’re missing the boat to the other side. She is exactly who I thought she was. Me. Jim Dodds If she is "me" as in you, why not sign your post "Byron Katie"? A fair question, I think. Yes, I dare to think and use my wonderful mind to assess all manner of things, including Byron Katie's "work". In my world, "loving wh
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For the record, Cohen's group (read cult) has been known in the past by such names as Moksha and Impersonal Enlightenment Fellowship. Currently it's known as Evolutionary Enlightenment or EnlightenNext.
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QuoteyasminHm. Well so far the Anticult has not charged for us to go to a seminar to get his/her wisdom, (s)he has not promised to help alleviate suffering, and (s)he hasn't required me to give him/her my most valued possession to show how well I'm doing ... jgf 75 suggested that "when participants walk into an intense workshop, of any sort there's a certain degree to whi
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Anyone who has had an unhappy experience with Byron Katie's organization may wish to file a complaint with one or more agencies. Consumers have a right to do such a thing. This is a link to a post made last year regarding the filing of complaints: [Filing Complaints re Byron Katie] I didn't see a link in the above post for the Better Business Bureau... that is another agency pe
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QuoteThe AnticultThis is about the posts being made by jgf75 on the guruphiliac forum. jgf75 is just playing word-games with the Ericksonian Hypnotherapy ideas. jgf75 says he is calling these people involved and ASKING them what they are doing! LOL! please, call Stephen Mitchell, Stever Robbins, and Byron Katie and ask them "what they are doing". Anticult, there is another post by
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One hopes it is "game over"... or nearly so. I've been marveling at the BK thread view counts in this forum. The daily view counts are high. I think that says a lot. Like Corboy said in the main BK thread, "Information is power".
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QuoteThe AnticultQUOTE: (Soen-sa is Seung Sahn) Soen-sa—I am not a philosopher. I am not a scientist. I am not a Buddhist. Muktananda—Then what is your philosophy, and what is the use of that philosophy? Soen-sa—I have no philosophy. Muktananda—Then what is your purpose? Soen-sa—You already understand. Muktananda—I must go now. _______________________ He got that right. He is not a philos
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QuotecorboyDiabetes is good, hah? Diabetes is the leading cause of male inpotence. It's also a leading cause of blindness, amputations, kidney failure and its expensive as fuck to live with. Go to your local walgreens and see the price of glucometer test strips. Thank you for the reality check about a serious condition like diabetes.
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QuoteThe AnticultFor example, there is this pathetic "discussion" between Seung Sahn and Muktananda in Cambridge, December 21, 1974. (search for Muktananda to find it) www.kwanumzen.com/teaching_letters/0201_0300.pdf It does really show you what kind of people both these guys were, especially Seung Sahn, who claims diabetes is good, and then tries to play little mind games with Muktan
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QuotescrambledeggsHave you seen this? LA Times article on Stephen Mitchell. Thank you, scrambledeggs. Someone posted a link to that article recently. Am glad it's being mentioned again. Here's something Mitchell said in the article: "I have no pretensions to scholarship. I just love to play with the Taoist masters. For them, nothing is sacred. The best tribute is contradiction.
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Wow Corboy, excellent information about Stuart Resnick and the SYDA folks. Whew. That "willfully ignorant" remark from Stuart is so ludicrous, it's laughable. So many angles from which to take go at that... I'll pick one... is he so insulated from the world at large that he doesn't realize there are a fair share of folks who don't use the internet? There a
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Hi Pilot, and thanks again for turning up that Janaki blog! Sadly, people ARE "buying it". A number of people here have spoken about the problem with someone like Steven Sashen leading them into involvement with Byron Katie's "work". Thankfully, Steven seems to be divorcing himself from Byron Katie completely. (It is my firm opinion that is a good thing.) Also than
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QuoteThe AnticultDoes Steven Sashen have a critical thinking area on his website? or an area on sales methods? of course not, that is his bread and butter. If Sashen sold a course on internet sales/marketing tech, it would show the various methods he uses. Maybe he does sell that course, but on another website? Steven Sashen has an article at Alternatives Magazine online, "Getting a New Pe
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QuoteThe Anticult...its also frankly a shameless bluff by RandomStu, when Stuart Resnick claims to have no real connection with Byron Katie and Stephen Mitchell, when in fact he recommends Byron Katie on his website, with direct links to her videos and blog. RandomStu also links to Carol Skolnick, and also highly recommends Steven Sashen's dubious get-rich-quick schemes, while attacking ot
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QuotequackdaveI do have a point: In my opinion, people like Sashen are equally as dangerous as Katie, because they seduce you and then take you by the hand to Katie's house, all prepped and ready to be fleeced by someone a lot more savvy than Steve Sashen. Although, I should add that Steve Sashen does have some expertise; I am sure that he has studied the techniques of Internet marketing ver
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QuoteMeadowAbout Steven Sashen: Check this out: It looks like the guy loves to hear himself speak, and thinks he is very funny. I actually heard that at some point BK threw him out herself, after he had been working for her. She used to make fun of him behind his back. Mr. Duh seems to have taken the video down. Hey, I think that was a good move. Appearing on camera so messy-looking and t
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Obsequious indeed. Mega obsequious. Barf! I'll bet he was really getting off on hobnobbing with Mrs. Sarkozy. Btw, the nickname "Soggy" is brill. :-)
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Janaki to Stephen Mitchell: "I responded with, Stephen, I wonder why you thought I would get a kick out of reading your story with Byron Katie and seeing the promotion of your new book. I thought it was weird and perverted that you sent me that email." Yay Janaki!
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I have been re-reading some of the earlier posts on Byron Katie... found one in another thread I particularly "vibed" with. [http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?4,9147,53168#msg-53168] Quoting vlinden... After reading about Byron Katie on this board, I was interested to see her in action. Here is a link showing a session with an Israeli woman who tells Katie that she's
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Wow, Steven Sashen no longer lists "The Work" or Byron Katie on his website! [Steven Sashen - Transformation without a Problem] For the former "Curriculum Director" of Byron Katie's school, that's a pretty big item on his resume to omit. I went to Sashen's website because I remembered that he spoke of being a teacher in a "Zen archery lineage"
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QuoteJay CruiseI've been looking at archived copies of thework.com on the Wayback Machine. The site from 1998 to late 2000 remained the same design. Prior to october 2000 an overight stay at The Center in Barstow was only $25 to cover costs. In october 2000 at the time she met Stephen Mitchell thework.com was completely redesigned, the school became much more professional and Mitchell
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Hey qd, it so happens I picked up the book "The Sociopath Next Door" from the library yesterday afternoon. It is chilling reading and I'm inclined to agree that Byron Katie fits the mold of sociopath. I have my doubts that she will commit something along the lines of leading a mass suicide, as she seems too into the material gains of her "work". But you never know.
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Quotesolea13Helpme: I got a good laugh from the Scary Mary Poppins trailer. :D Hi Solea, someone sent me that video last year and I remembered it as soon as Anticult talked about Mary Poppins in connection with Byron Katie. I thought, how perfect! So nice to be able to laugh about this stuff now and then. :-)
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Charlie Hayes has written a "review" for Scott Kiloby's book, "Love's Quiet Revolution: The End of the Spiritual Search", which also includes a plug for his own stuff (and as usual, he goes on and on): This is a potent book that inexorably brings the "spiritual seeker" back in bite size steps to That Which Never Changes. We call That "Love" - t
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The Scott Kiloby video was laughable! All that intense gazing and babbling about nothing. I doubled over when when he lifted up that can of soda and took a big slug and then went right back into his babbling! Interestingly he and Janaki and Charlie Hayes all share Tony Parsons as a guru.
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