Tusta and others protesting said they had never even watched the show. Butler watches movies and tells people what not to watch even though his followers are not supposed to be watching movies or tv. I remember he had a real issue with Fat Bastard on Austin Powers and there was a ban against his followers watching it. Funnily on the Hindu site "Xena" protest guest book, posted a few
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The sites are purely to disrupt anti-SIF ratings but it makes them look stupid which is kinda what we were going for too. Suzanne Sands is a devotee of Butler and she argued in Tusta Krisha das's SIF protest against the depiction of Krishan in the Xena Warrior Princess episode "The Way": Quote784|Suzanne Sands |02:22:03 3/07/99| gauranga@goldenwave.com|Ojai, CA|USA|| S
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Josh Harvey (Carmichael) paid $4000 to Gabbard's campaign Josh "Oh My Gosh" www.ohmygoshjosh.com This is another hindu religious cult business in California. Related to Linda (Uddhava dasi) Harvey and Michael (Gopal das) Harvey (Healing Noni company) It also sells Devin (Dharma das) Bull and Kunti dasi Bull's Twisterz on his site. Ellen C Abrams contributed $
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There has been much focus on Mike Gabbard and his connection to SIF but who else in SIF is involved in politics. Andy Smith was appointed as Gov. Lingle's W. Hawaiian liason. The senior policy advisor to Lingle contributed the same amount as Andy to Gabbard ($3000), is named Linda Smith and is old enough to be his mother. I can't find details of Andy's family so perhaps not. Her hu
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This was some of Z's earliest comments after he said he has answers to all the questions: QuoteThe basic philosophy was universal and attractive. I don't hold any grudges They were great guys. I empowered with my own belief We volunteered to check our common sense at the door and let ourselves be exploited. We had the disease “guruitis” (no longer taking responsibilit
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The above link to the Gabbard contributors so here it is again: [66.102.9.104] Does anyone remember the "Living Force" album. It was better than Siddha's indoctrination claptrap but I can't quite remember the 'Changes' song but it went something like: (second verse) The stars above might be displaced And the Mountains are slowing down Life grows and t
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Ananda Health Centre - exposed www.anandahealthcentre.com.au Please note this is an Australian School of Meditation Recruitment centre for the secretive international religious cult Science of Identiy Foundation (SIF) in Hawaii whose members and disciples worship the paranoid domsdayer leader Jagad Guru Siddhawswarupananda Paramahamsa (Chris Butler) as 'good as God' and the people
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Quotecultreporter The "Danger : Child Pornography" booklet by Jagad Guru - not generally available goes into specific vulgar details about sexual acts performed on children which beg the question where did Jagad Guru get this information and why would he want to repeat it? When I was 13 I found a 'Life Force News' paper in a box at my friends home. This was published in New
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QuotecultreporterNow you are worried some crazy guy might come and shoot you? This is a total over-reaction. If you posted his pic the cult would deliver to his house a bottle of holy foot-water and return his life membership card for acting with their best intentions in mind and not being a rat. Oh perhaps I should have said that In disjointed sentences In order to be understood With
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QuotecultreporterNow you are worried some crazy guy might come and shoot you? This is a total over-reaction. If you posted his pic the cult would deliver to his house a bottle of holy foot-water and return his life membership card for acting with their best intentions in mind and not being a rat. Oh perhaps I should have said that In disjointed sentences In order to be understood With
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I'm Mellow already.. Stop being a freaking hypocrite and act as if you know anything about credibility. Cara has put her name to a conscientious effort to expose the cult and faced them in person directly she has far more credibility than you could ever claim. So if you want to hop into bed with Zelig and criticise her then you can quit pretending to be a friend OK? Traitor yes, hypocrite
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OMG Googling Ha ha ha!.. Don't you freaking tell me to post information on SIF now after I told you this days ago and was asking Z to do the same. Ok show me Googling. Come on you freaking hypocrite.. You post some information that you personally acquired through your own research. This is the proof that I was looking for that you guys are not 'Dirty Freaking Apes'. Show us the
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Correct Dassi, I'm Mean and have no patience for the lying Dirty Cult Apologists group (we can abbreviate that to 'Dirty Apes'). Wrong Dassi, this point of judgement was made by Zelig to justify the fact that he was judging CR in the absense of evidence that he was making an active and consistent attempt to oppose SIF. If I specifically state why I personally do not agree with s
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Who is "WE" Googling? Yourself, sunglider and Z. So let me get this straight Googling. Firstly you have spent most of your time here putting in occasional quibs and jokes and I haven't seen you posting links to relevant information on the cult and neither has Z. Sunglider has as much as said that research into the cult is unimportant. Uh huh.. I'm noticing a theme here.
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"cultreporter has many identites on here, Rick just chooses to ignore it" Shanti and I seem to be the only ones defending Cara and Shanti joined this thread the day before Z did - before Cara had anything to do with this thread. You can't seriously believe that she is any of the people supporting this person attacking her. :roll: This is the same lack of evidence that I pro
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Googling if I didn't know better I would have thought that this was another one of your jokes. You are accusing me of being a conspirer with the enemy while at the same time you are defending your friend who was kicked off this same forum twice for being a cult apologist. Ha! Zelig would probably have some other ID he can use. Don't sweat it. Of course he'd need to create a pre
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That last amount should have been $5450. Of course Carol and Mike Gabbard contributed a total of $4374 And their daughter Tulsi Tamayo Gabbard gave $2250 and there is a bit of a story behind that since she is supposedly a democrat which is how most of the Butler politicians start out only to republicize later. Eduardo Tamayo Tulsi's husband gave $2000 Michael Harvey, son of disci
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Florida Benjamin Harrison Gabbard III (retired) $500 Mike gabbard's older brother Jennifer Gabbard (prosecuter's office) $700 Chris Gabbard (Wilmar/Sales rep.) $250 Elsie Porter (retired) $4000 Carol Gabbard's Mother also funded thousands of dollars to Carol's BOE campaign which was a record amount in the history of Hawaii. $4450 Info on Gabbard&#
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Devananda das (AKA James Mcguire) and Ronna Lynne Mcguire Ronna Lynne Mcguire and Devananda das are name on the following link: Jim Mcguire and Ronna James F Mcquire owns the following Hawaiian business: Lokahi Stone, LLC Plus C.L McGuire all of Keaau Hawaii each paid Gabbard roughy $3000 Totalling $9206 Sub-total- $58686
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Carol Lent $2625 Of Down to Earth Natural Food Stores (Science of Identity Business) Andy Smith http://www.hawaii.gov/gov/team/neighbor-island-liaisons/west-hawaii-liaison/asmith300.jpg This is, Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle's West Hawaiian Laison. He lists on his MySpace started this year his interests as being: Love of God Vegetarianism The Absolute Truth His
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Here is the link to the complete list of names if anyone would like to look and see if they and recognise anyone from the cult. (Click on see all contributors to see them by state) Nervada had two contributors to Mike Gabbard's campaign Richard Bellord (Consultant) $4000 Sarah Bellord (home maker) $4000 Richard Bellord is the first husband of Chris Butler's wife Wai
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Yes Googling "Zelig" is a traitor by pretending to be Cara's ally while at the same time going to great lengths to undermine her presence on this forum. Therefore: we can't all get along. www.nonialoha.com The Noni Connection business in Hawaii. Members of Science of Identity also own Noni farms, Heaing Noni and Heaven's Noni which is also sold at Down to Earth Na
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Thanks Rick Ross Tim Anthony and Anya Anthony combined contribution to Mike Gabbard's Campaign was $3700. Anya anthony is named on the Sunset Studios business registration which is the Studios for Ninjai Gang (a Science of Identity business which produces animation of a child violently beheads demons*) . *Demons is a favored term in the cult for people who do not worship the
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No Googling we can't just get along, ever heard of the word traitor? Someone who betrays their own by treason or attempts to undermine their own allies. With hope that there will no longer be any distractions of this kind I have been waiting to post good deal of actual relevant info. http://www.mikegabbard.com/images/campaigntrail/01_gabb_riggs.jpg Rock Riggs writes to the Honolu
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It's kind of funny how Cara was accusing you of being a deceptive force on this thread attempting to discredit her long before it was pointed out that you were on this thread attempting to suggest that brainwashing doesn't really exist. Long before your attempt to discredit Rick Ross by comparing him to a "witch hunter". Feeling out your way to see how much you can minimiz
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Just incase I am asked how I know that Zelig and Initiate are the same person can someone please explain to me the odds of two Jewish men (both of whom are accused of being a cult apologist) in SIF during the same period who were humiliated by their Jewish fathers and brothers who have as one example the following "identical" stories to tell: Zelig wrote: QuoteI spoke with his fat
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Hi Rick Ross, I sincerely hope you reconsider your position as Zelig was being accused of attacking Cara's attempts to expose SIF long before my pointing out that you had already banned him previously for being a cult apologist. Now zelig has posted a long list of very serious allegations against Cara, a couple of pages back, (which he is perfectly with in his right to do so) yet when I r
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Hari Sauri wrote the Transcendental Diaries which is a very large trilogy of books documenting his experiences travelling with AC Bhaktivedanta Swami and serving as his personal secretary. The following is a brief extraction regarding Tusta and New Zealand. There are a few accounts of Siddhasvarupa Swami and Siddhasvarupa Maharaj and many other names of devotees fortunately it is indexed. I ha
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Tusta opened a temple in New Zealand in around april 1972 and December that year he had left the temple to start a farm in a remote area of northern NSW Australia due to some difficulties he was having (as mentioned below). Bhaktivedanta requested that Siddha move to Australia in December to assist him. In 73 they had both moved back to New Zealand though I haven't figured out their move
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This is just a list of further allegations Zelig. You have not explained anything I asked you. On top of intimidating and agressively attacking current followers and alienating them you now include allegations of attacking ex-followers aswell. It's fairly clear that all your accusations are aimed at one person which is consequentially disrupting her time and attempt to expose SIF. She was
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