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"...In our conversations over the years it was obvious that Chuck had
experienced a remarkable transition from one who felt the burden of
needing to avenge his son's death personally, to allowing justice to
be served within the criminal justice system, to achieving the peace
that comes with the understanding that there is a higher power—a
Supreme Being who is unconditionally loving yet not about to allow
those who harm innocent people to go unpunished.
Chuck knew that I had great respect for [u:0238f06b74]my spiritual teacher, Jagad
Guru Siddhaswarup Ananda[/u:0238f06b74], and, shortly after he became Prosecuting
Attorney, Chuck asked me to arrange a meeting between the two men.
They met only once and never conversed again, but Chuck told me he
came away from that meeting with a newfound peace. He said he left
that meeting confident that although Chuckers had experienced the
death of his body, the person Chuck knew and loved as his son had not
ceased to exist and was in good hands.
This understanding is a universal truth that has been taught through
the ages by sages and spiritual teachers of all religious persuasions.
I know that Polly and all of us who had the pleasure of knowing Chuck
can find solace in the knowledge that although his body has worn out,
and he has moved on, the person we knew and loved as Chuck Marsland
continues to exist and is in good hands."
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The basic philosophy was universal and attractive.
I don't hold any grudges
They were great guys.
I empowered [Siddha] with my own belief
We volunteered to check our common sense at the door and let ourselves be exploited.
We had the disease “guruitis” (no longer taking responsibility for ourselves)
I made the choice to follow. I learned a lot and am grateful for the experiences.
I believe people should live and let live and be free to join Siddha or anyone else.
Actually this was an example of [siddha's] rebellious, "I don't give a sh*t about what anyone thinks" attitude. Very appealing.
There were no "secret" teachings any more than there was a real organization to join. The secrets were always of a practical nature to keep Siddha's support system going. No orders of violence or suicide. No thugs beating up wayward diciples.
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What if I just realized that I am making major life decisions based on a man who is delusional, paranoid, and phobic no matter [b:6df06e7787]how kind and gentle or humble[/b:6df06e7787] he appears?
Deny this, deny that. You feel bad for that sleep deprived cook that just got fired because the tofu wasn’t cooked right. [b:6df06e7787]Someone else gets yelled at[/b:6df06e7787] for suggesting that Siddha put some footnotes and to quote references at the end of his books.
There was a grandiose feeling in the group that we had a superior spiritual understanding. All of his lectures are[b:6df06e7787] filled with mocking and sarcasm[/b:6df06e7787], building up “straw men” to knock them down.
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You see a political candidate in a fake marriage ordered by Siddha so a family can be pictured on a brochure.*
*(NOT Mike Gabbard who was really a great guy with a loving wife when I knew him).
What are they DOING that is hurting or serving the constituency?
If Siddha ordered her to go off to war, then it's his own hipocracy. If she allowed herself to go off to war on his orders for political motivations, which I doubt, then she is an idiot. (Z on Tulsi)
In any case, I have no issue with her going to Iraq. That's her business and choice. So is the family's religion. Besides there were Kshatrias (warriors) in Krishna's time. No one really knows if Siddha is advising them or not and who cares.
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It is obvious that the charges made by the gay activists are motivated out of hate for Carol Gabbard and not out of any concern for supposed campaign spending violations.
Mike Hinchey
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On relationships with each other and the environment:
"Most people are not concerned about the problems we are creating on earth. Our whole attitude towards this planet is that it is disposable. Everyone thinks that they can take anything they want, exploit it, and then conveniently throw it away. So many things have become disposable " not only diapers, towels, plates and spoons " but babies, wives, husbands and old people too."
- Jagad Guru Chris Butler (Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa)
© 2007 Science of Identity Foundation
On yogis:
"The yogi’s interest is inner peace and self-realization and social harmony."
- Jagad Guru Chris Butler (Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa)
© 2007 Science of Identity Foundation
"Hatred and conflict are often rooted in differences between people of different races and religions. We all need to respect people of different races as well as people of different faiths and religions. We need to unite by recognizing our common desire and need for a harmonious society—a society in which we and our children and families and friends and communities can all live our lives in peace and harmony. Regardless of our race or religion, we all want and need such social harmony."
- Jagad Guru Chris Butler (Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa)
© 2007 Science of Identity Foundation
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Slander - 1. defamation: calumny (a false and malicious statement designed to injure a reputation).<P>You have completely slandered God, the Supreme Person otherwise known as Krishna, by creating and airing the episode of Xena entitled "The Way." I am very much aggrieved and not only urge you but beg you to never air this episode again.<P>You've taken a real personality and portrayed him and his teachings not only falsely but offensively. Krishna is real and exists in the lives of millions of devotees around the world. He exists in the hearts of every living being. [b:72e68ca375]There are volumes and volumes of bonafide scriptures that clearly describe him and his past times and bonafide living spiritual masters coming in an unbroken disciplic line of self-realized souls going all the way back to Krishna himself[/b:72e68ca375]. You can not make up stories about about the Supreme Person that are not true. On a smaller scale, what if it was done to you? Would you sit quietly as you were being slandered and millions of people were being given an incorrect impression about who you really were and what your relationship was with those whom you loved? This is the Supreme Lord we are talking about here! Please stop. You have no right and you are hurting not only yourself but millions of people whether you realize it or not. We won't stop fighting for the one we love and all we are asking is that you do not ever use Krishna as one of your fictional characters and you never re-air that espisode again. Thank you.
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You have completely slandered Satan, the Supreme Person otherwise known as the Devil, by creating and airing movies such as The Exorcist, The Omen, The Firm, Dracula, Constantine, Hellboy, etc., etc." I am very much aggrieved and not only urge you but beg you to never air them again.
You've taken a real personality and portrayed him and his teachings not only falsely but offensively. Satan is real and exists in the lives of millions of devotees around the world. He exists in the hearts of every living being. There are volumes and volumes of bonafide scriptures that clearly describe him and his past times and bonafide living spiritual masters coming in an unbroken disciplic line of self-realized souls going all the way back to Satan himself. You can not make up stories about about the Supreme Prince of Darkness that are not true.
On a smaller scale, what if it was done to you? Would you sit quietly as you were being slandered and millions of people were being given an incorrect impression about who you really were and what your relationship was with those whom you loved?
This is the Supreme Lord of Darkness we are talking about here! Please stop. You have no right and you are hurting not only yourself but millions of people whether you realize it or not.
We won't stop fighting for the one we love and all we are asking is that you do not ever use Satan as one of your fictional characters and you never re-air these kind of movies again. Thank you.
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You have completely slandered Satan, the Supreme Person otherwise known as the Devil, by creating and airing movies such as The Exorcist, The Omen, The Firm, Dracula, Constantine, Hellboy, etc., etc." I am very much aggrieved and not only urge you but beg you to never air them again.
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Fact : Kids living with their own Mom and Dad are happier, healthier and live longer more productive lives.
Considering that you cant have domestic violence involving one person and most murders are committed by someone the victim knows I find this one in particular a little hard to believe. Of course if he is a devotee then he knows there is no such thing as domestic violence in SoI - just the husband out of the goodness of his devotion teaching the wife how to behave properly. :roll: :cry:Quote
Fact : Marriage reduces the risk that a woman will be the victim of domestic violence or a violent crime.
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That is just because they have so much to hide. Rick Reed working under the instructions of Chris Butler went to work in the Prosectors Department, later using information that had illegally obtained from this position to slander a political opponent which backfired when he was exposed as being an SoI puppet by his ex-wife.
The recent Eulogy delivered by Rick Reed at Chuck Marsland's funeral. Rick Reed (aka Krsna das) is a disciple of Jagad Guru Siddhaswarup Ananda. Reed has always skirted the issue, but check out his admission at the end of his speech.Quote
"...In our conversations over the years it was obvious that Chuck had
experienced a remarkable transition from one who felt the burden of
needing to avenge his son's death personally, to allowing justice to
be served within the criminal justice system, to achieving the peace
that comes with the understanding that there is a higher power—a
Supreme Being who is unconditionally loving yet not about to allow
those who harm innocent people to go unpunished.
Chuck knew that I had great respect for [u:0a28e089c9]my spiritual teacher, Jagad
Guru Siddhaswarup Ananda[/u:0a28e089c9], and, shortly after he became Prosecuting
Attorney, Chuck asked me to arrange a meeting between the two men.
They met only once and never conversed again, but Chuck told me he
came away from that meeting with a newfound peace. He said he left
that meeting confident that although Chuckers had experienced the
death of his body, the person Chuck knew and loved as his son had not
ceased to exist and was in good hands.
This understanding is a universal truth that has been taught through
the ages by sages and spiritual teachers of all religious persuasions.
I know that Polly and all of us who had the pleasure of knowing Chuck
can find solace in the knowledge that although his body has worn out,
and he has moved on, the person we knew and loved as Chuck Marsland
continues to exist and is in good hands."
SoI doesnt care how they get into power, even with their militant homophobia the desire is to simply get power period. Butler run candidates have run simultaneously in oppossing parties with Wayne Nisiki being one of the most controversial and reviled members of his party's history for unprecedented endorsement of a candidate for the opposition - Rick Reed, for whom Mike Gabbard was working at the time. Rick Reed also used his position in the prosecutors department to direct blame for organised crime onto an alledged Mafia figure for which Butler feared retaliation since it was the cult, not any concern for public safety or even the prosecutors office that was perptuating these allegations.
Following the near exposure in New Zealand with law enforcement investigations against the cult Butler began ordering his followers to take up policing as a career. The cult has infiltrated over the past 30 years every level of Hawaiian government from local council to Senator and the Board of Education as well as forming a multitude of lobbying groups and media enterprises. In perspective Scientology was able to create havoc by infiltrating just the tax division of the Justice Department - imagine what can be done with a senator. If anyone is the father of organised crime in Hawaii it is Chris Butler, and not the man they accussed, although maybe Godhead of organised crime would be more appropriate.