QuoteZelig wrote: I think that intimidating, aggressively attacking and further alienating current followers is counterproductive. Zelig, would you please be specific in explaining the above allegations? Possibly you might list some specific points or examples that you see as intimidation, aggressive attacks and alienating followers to illustrate your point. Siddha and his disciples appear to d
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oops wrong link.. www.foursprings.org Shanti.. That is how most of Iskcon and Siddha's group became involved. AC Bhaktivedanta swami gave particular instructions that he wanted his centers set up close to universities and in '72 ACB, Tusta Krishna and Siddha were discussing a university of their own that would hold hindu subjects that students may like to attend. This was in NZ but s
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Hi Shanti, Brandon Peele appears to be a walking advertisement for eastern religion (even cults) and self-help gurus. It seems to be a money making venture as he has the 'Namaste Economics' business, where he uses philosophy and personal growth lectures to increase profits for corporations. QuoteAgain, this was an instance where my intuition told me to go and experience, without t
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Nevermind cult - certain individuals wil arrive to slow down the progress on exposing Science of Identity. Rather than defeat your argument creating irrelevant discussion is easier. The time frame is interesting though approximately three days is common for suspicious characters to respond. The amount of man hours that are taken up attempting to hide the information is unbelievable considering
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Zelig was a member on this thread previously with the handle "Initiate" under which he argued with RR that members of cults are to be held responsible despite mind control and he recalls that brainwashing doesn't occur in Science of Identity. Initiate was a member during the times Zelig was in the 70s and 80s, they both had jewish fathers and brothers who ridiculed them for bein
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To Clarify on my previous two posts regarding Mahaksada and Babhru prabhu (alias stonehearted) from Hawaii: You will notice that Mahak in particular (who claims to have no involvement with SIF and his siksa guru is siddhaswarupa) has been defending Siddha promptly for at least the last six years on all the main vaishnava sites. This is convenient for Siddha and his followers (who have no i
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Babhru prabhu and Mahaksa dasa discuss in more detail the early Iskcon and Sai Speaks from the KYC on Indiadivine. The Ontological Primer was a small book by Gaurasundar which claimed to prove the existence of God which could possibly have inspired Siddha to write his books that discuss the existence of the soul and the reality of reincarnation under the guise of science. Many of the other
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I agree totally with Rick Ross that the definition of cults needs to be seperated from more orthodox or mainstream religions. If not for any other reason than to give specific attention to those groups who are smaller scope and secretive about their organisation. Of course a common idea about cults is a group that follows a leader who is considered to be a person of worship and generally the
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Here is a discussion by two of Siddha's ex-followers from the 70s. Stoneheart and Mahak are both regular posters on several internet forums and they both tell their stories of meeting Siddhaswarup although generally they are defensive of his preaching style which some consider to be greatly different to that of his guru. Stoneheart is Babhru prabhu who met Sai in 1969 and was initi
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