Here it is, folks Sathya Sai Baba and the Famous in Mumbai at a Darshan (this is live footage) - mumbai.htm Read the text here and see the famous names. Home Video In this video, camera focuses on Sonu Nigamaand other Vip's near the stage area, panorama shots of the arena filled with Sai devotees waiting for Swami's. Final and the best shot is of Swami's arriv
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Saibaba devotees move court to know his condition siva (sydney) 21 hrs ago (06:49 AM) dear non devotees swami appeared a devotee yesterday and said that he has left the mortal body for a short time to help some devotees in dire need one being my son and the doctors are keeping it going with artificial ventilation until he returns -----------------------------------
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The government wants to take it all over, for control of the assets, and to cover-up the corruption from many years past. 'Govt must take over Sai Trust'
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Sai Baba's gang operated like an armed mafia in that area? One can bet, much of the loot is long gone already. Looks like the corrupt officials want to turn the area into SaiBabaLand, with them managing the cash donations for years to come. And when Sai Baba dies, the Sai Baba PR company, will come up with some story, that he left the body for reason ______. The followers will ration
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SSB was nothing more than a Big Boss like Bal Thackeray of Shiv Sena. Unlike Bal Thackeray SSB found ways to attract Westerners by mastering the techniques of guru theatre and the technology of bliss induction. Again, for perspective on the context that produced and maintained SSB, get and read Maximum City: Bombay Lost and Found by Suketu Mehta. Its now in paperback and easy to find.
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Well it looks as though the 'omnipotent' one is only just hanging on , being kept alive by whatever 'human' means possible, them buying time so that the hoards of corrupt people in the SSB Organization, government and other hangers on can get their goodies syphoned away and try to cover their butts. The vast un-taxed and un-accounted for wealth and power will be bitterly foug
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As well, handing out "candy" to the little people, is an old eastern Guru cultic technique, used by cult leaders like Sai Baba. Ching Hai just copied that technique from them, and of course the candies were probably made in some sweat-shop with hydrogenated oil and bought in bulk. Unfortunately in these cultic groups, most people stop thinking. As was said, its conditioning. Chin
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And you have to shake your head. Will Tuttle is saying this is nothing like a cultish group?? In the next breath he is talking about Supreme Master Ching Hai. Its not enough for Ching Hai to be your Master. She wants to be your Supreme Master. Now of course every one of these groups these days tries to fudge that, and try and make it sound like "God" is the Supreme Master...(later
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The Anti-Cult...I have to say that Sai Baba sounds extremely hard-core. I clicked on the link and read a bit and wow.... Your comments tie in with what Tsukimoto said, how the marketing is very specific. People who are comfortable with the M/D angle will dive in. If you are a critical thinker who sees the shades of grey beyond black and white, SGI will skim over you. They are indeed gettin
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Keven RD Shepherd--a March 2011 article on Satya Sai Organzation Dr Shepherd is a fine author and scholar. He has paid the price by being attacked, cyberspace, along with others critical of SSO, namely Timothy Conway, Priddy and Brian Steele. Notice the bias: one can praise gurus and live a peaceful life. If anyone attempts to bring accountablity to the guru biz, they are troll attacked
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That is why they are fighting to gain control of the countless millions of dollars stashed by Sai Baba & Co all over the place. Sai Baba claimed (lied) that he could materialize gold, using cheap magic tricks to dupe wealthy people into large donations. An Indian Skeptic took it before a judge, as by law Sai Baba should have to pay tax on that gold. But a corrupt Indian judge, ruled th
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Heh, if they converted even a small portion of that cash into gold...oohhh baby.
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There was a small Yahoo group about Ching Hai. More information is coming out about Ching Hai. Search Google for: Ching Hai cult --------------------------------- Exchinghai "Description This group is for those who have left ching hai's quan yin meditation group,present questioning devotees other interested people to leave messages on why they left the cult.Please post m
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Now the "legal" robbers will rob the robbers. Its a free-for-all, and if he who hesitates loses the loot. the Satya Sai Central Trust, has ONLY TAKEN CASH since 2000. Its all untraceable, no one knows where the money went, cash disappears instantly. Its like a giant criminal money-laundering enterprise. It all makes sense now, the Satya Sai Central Trust is just a gigantic untrac
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Thanks for the info. Yes, very interesting about the Sai Baba gun-toting guards, and the rest of it. Even in the west, a lot can be learned from going to Sai Baba satsangs, and analyzing the videos, audio, and books. But one has to be very careful, and have training in the methods of how these sects operate. What is going to happen now? Because there is such a deep line of official corru
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Been to the Puttaparthi Ashram a few times 2006/08. Witnessed the almost fanatical blind devotion of the 'true followers' and also the seedier side of the goings on with gun wearing guards and aggressive security to touch on two things. Went with a devotee who invited me along at a vulnerable time in my life (turns out that they were more needy than me!). Thankfully I eventually starte
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Some citizens in India see exactly what's going on. But it does seem the moderators of these sites delete most comments that are critical of Sai Baba. ----------QUOTE----------------- Concerned Citizen (Bangalore) 10 hrs ago (01:38 PM) This Sai Baba is a complete fraud. Unfortunately, there is far too much ignorance in our country (even among the so called educated ones as is evi
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Robert Priddy gets it, he promoted Sai Baba for years, then woke up. More about the fake diamonds, and fake gifts, which are just bad magic parlor tricks, but sadly people fall for it. There is very disturbing reports, that Sai Baba has a defacto sexual abuser ring around him, where some boys he abused have grown-up, and are doing the same. ----------------------------- QUOTE: "
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And those in the west think our "media" is bad. Its far worse in India, even in English! Here is another bizarre set of apologetics for Sai Baba, this time on a "medical" blog. Its hard to know if this is propaganda from a Sai Baba follower, or sincere? It seems to never cross anyone's mind that in fact, Sai Baba has been performing crummy magic tricks, and is just a
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The followers of Sai Baba seem to really believe he is a Godman, just a flat out delusion. But the senior Sai Baba Inc people, and politicians, they know its a scam, but they are in on it, and have their fingers in the pot. For example, the Sai Baba Inc company, is now putting out "articles" that say this is a "test" for the followers of Sai Baba, and that God in a human f
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A world famous guru brings much more than money to his or her locale. More important--a world famous guru becomes a political patron and helps his or her village and devotees GET THINGS DONE. Even in India, having mega money isnt in itself enough to get things done. You need patrons to pull strings for you, speak well of you. India always needs people like that because its own governme
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Its all about business. Sai Baba Inc is big business for the locals. "Apart from spivvy resorts, private guesthouses and lodges, there are over 200 apartment complexes in and around Puttaparthi that cater to pilgrims from India and abroad. '' We're in a mess. We're worried about our business ventures,'' said another land agent. "
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Certainly all Sai Baba's ailments were hidden, as he's supposed to be the Lord of the Universe, not just some aging guy. But at age 85, health can drop very quickly. There also seems to be a few people talking about a conspiracy of some of his handlers wanting to get rid of him early? Aging Gurus are often mistreated by their most senior handler, if that person wants to inherit eve
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Hi......Thanks to all who have posted here....Can anyone explain why Sai Baba looks so bad now (and has been for a view years)....I mean I would understand if he felt guilt/shame for all that he is accused of doing to boys and fake tricks etc BUT from my understanding psychopaths dont feel guilt or remorse...Maybe it is just bad physical health but man he aged incredibly poorly...Maybe he has bee
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Robert Priddy is interesting. A former Sai Baba believer, who even ran one of the centers, who then started to look into what is really going on with Sai Baba.
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Now they blame someone throwing an old village idol away, on Sai Baba's health problems! The amount of garbage printed uncritically in the India "press", makes the US look like a paradise of critical thinking. Have yet to see a shred of asking for proof of anything in the Indian press. Who knows, maybe its fear of sparking a riot, with even one word that is not praise for the f
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Even the government want to get their hands on Sai Baba's wealth. Sathya Sai Baba health: AP govt team to assess trust takeover After all, it was the corruption in local government, who kept Sai Baba in business. There are countless millions socked away all over the place, and of course, its inconceivable the corruption is going to be exposed, too many people on the take are at ri
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Lets watch and see if some pliable, malleable person is identified (conveniently) as the next avatar. For an overview of Sathya Sai Baba see Brian Steele Robert Priddy Kevin Shepherd Sad thing is that Satya Sai, who lived in obscene luxury and preyed on boys and young men, claimed to be the avatar of Sai Baba of Shirdi, a long deceased holy man who had been a Sufi, a
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The fight for control of the Sai Baba empire and its millions has begun. "his nephew Ratnakara (TIMES OF INDIA) is reportedly trying to take control of the Sathya Sai Central Trust and even to ‘step into Sai Baba’s shoes’! The Sathya Sai Central Trust has also reportedly obtained signatures from at least two of Sai Baba’s relatives (Deccan Chronicle)." New Updates
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Very interesting to read all the true believers comments about the illness of their fake Godman Guru Sai Baba. It really points to WHY Ikeda and SGI hammer on the Mentor/Disciple angle. They know it works, and they changed the language to be more acceptable in the USA. Originally, the concept across various religions is Master/Slave, but that doesn't sound very good anymore. So it get
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