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Somewhere on this thread I read that the US State Department had a warning out on Sai Baba, for pedophelia. Good for the State Department. I wish the State Dept. would put a warning out on Tibetan lamas as chronic sexual predators, or Tibetan Buddhism in general as a sex cult.
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pred·a·tor /Noun 1. An animal that naturally preys on others. 2. A rapacious, exploitative person or group. I don't think that Kassila has much of a reputation to defend, even from you if you're honest. About the juicier tales, I've already heard them--they are mostly about the enormous amounts of money that Amma 'the hugging saint' raises and doesn't spe
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QuoteThey guy who does the "channeling" has pictures of Sai Baba and other Indian gurus behind him and talks in a strange voice. Sai Baba (now deceased) amassed millions in assets. He was exposed as having faked his miracles, faked his history and he preyed sexually on young men. A man who was so such a slave to greed and lust would not have been a reliable source of wisdom, livin
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This Saint German material is endlessly recycled--it is old stuff in a new container. Legions of different people and a myriad of groups claim to receive channeled information from SG. Some possible URLs When the weather's bad, the Count likes to show up in Greece. another group There have been a lot of groups that used Saint Germain. HP Blavatsk
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Slightly, I watched some of their videos and skimmed their website some time ago. They guy who does the "channeling" has pictures of Sai Baba and other Indian gurus behind him and talks in a strange voice. I don't know where he's from, but I think they were based in London. Have you been involved in that group?
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This thread is about SGI. If you look at this site, you will see the Mormon's are classified as a cultish sect, and of course Scientology. The Roman Catholic church is something else, but of course they are super-rich. But the Mormons and Scientology, are rich cults. SGI is a rich cult. SGI didn't make their money fair and square. The exploited SGI members to get it, pressur
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The Sai Baba group controlled the local police. "Before the incident in which three persons were caught transporting Rs 35.5 lakh cash from Puttaparthi to Bangalore, there were many such seizures but after telephone calls from senior AP police officials in Hyderabad and Karnataka police officials in Bangalore, both the persons detained and the cash were allowed to go," said the pol
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And of course, its not even the tip of the Sai Baba criminal financial iceberg. But its hard to trust information any local "police or politicians" or anyone when in comes to this kind of cash in hand. Sai Baba had so many people on the payroll, and so many crimes were suppressed by local corruption. But perhaps there is so much cash stashed, that some of it has to be accounted for?
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Millions in foreign cash, gold, and jewels. Raw untraceable wealth. And most of it would have already been taken away in trunks of cars at night. The Sai Baba racket, was a giant cash-machine, a criminal enterprise, with many people with their own hands in the cookie jar. And because it involves those in the government and the police forces, it will all be covered up. Bribes, blackmail
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So here we are almost 2 months down the line since the death of Sathya Sai Baba and no sign of any miracles, resurrections or otherwise, surprise surprise! Lots of developments since then with their being no named successor, predictable in-fighting within the SSB Trust for control of power and wealth, no written will, and his private quarters being turned over to find millions in foreign cash,
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Hello, I would like to make you all aware of a so-called holy man in Kerala, India, named Sadhu Vinod, who visits several places to find westerners to have sex with them. He frequently visits the Shanti Madom ashram in Azhikode to look for prospect westerners. As far as I'm aware Shanti Madom is not like that at all, it is just this man who uses it to shop. He also networks between Mookambi
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Quotebobze39Quotebobze39QuoteNichijew If they did kill anyone, and I have no absolute proof that they do, I have read and heard that both the police and the media are in their pocket. Even in America, there are communities where people who are connected can get away with murder while, if you are not connected and get on the wrong side of the powers that be, you will either do time on trumped up
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Quotebobze39QuoteNichijew If they did kill anyone, and I have no absolute proof that they do, I have read and heard that both the police and the media are in their pocket. Even in America, there are communities where people who are connected can get away with murder while, if you are not connected and get on the wrong side of the powers that be, you will either do time on trumped up charges, ge
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QuoteNichijew If they did kill anyone, and I have no absolute proof that they do, I have read and heard that both the police and the media are in their pocket. Even in America, there are communities where people who are connected can get away with murder while, if you are not connected and get on the wrong side of the powers that be, you will either do time on trumped up charges, get killed, or
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It's been a few days now since the official burial - any sign of him knocking on the lid to be resurrected yet? Gone fairly quiet now but I am sure that there is a lot happening in the background, claims of a will somewhere, power struggles for control, who will be the succesor? They might go off and buy or take a boy baby to cultivate as his prophesised re-incarnation a few years from n
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Years back, I met an elegant well informed lady. I asked where she was from and she said, Pune. I said it was a wonderful city, she looked nervous, ashamed, and said, 'To this day many of us in Pune are angry and ashamed at how Rajneesh and his followrs dragged Pune into the mud.'
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Some of us in India are sick of smokescreen of charity by these so called gurus who are nothing but charlatans. So here is an article addressing it. Ever since the announcement of godman Sai Baba’s death in Puttaparthi on Sunday, the 24th of April, the most commonly seen defense of the life and actions of India’s most famous conman, on blogs and social media entries discussing his death, i
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Here is a link of an article written by an apologetic with the usual straw man arguments. It is not uncommon now that for many Gurus, Rishis or Seers who have emerged from India, there has always been an unprecedented number of vicious attacks launched on them. These have come in the guise of slander, misquotes, false allegations and myriad smear campaigns. Moreover it is interesting to
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much more info here. robertpriddy.wordpress.com Sai Baba took in a 5 year old, now Satyajit Salian age 33, who serviced Sai Baba for decades, and who is now trying to take a huge chunk of the Sai Baba business. That guy also has serious allegations against him. Sai Baba is not dead. His organization is going to live on for decades, and its going to be business as usual. Perhaps a little
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Here is what would be poetic justice: Arrange for competing avatars of SSB to manifest symetrically, in the poorer areas of India. All of them should be Dalits. Two, let all the new SSB avatars preach the following message: * Anyone who writes off debts that poor persons are unable to repay will, in that instant, become a manifestation of G-d *Anyone who stops selling addictive dr
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You better believe the Sai Baba Trust will find a new Baby Baba. They will let it float for a number of years, and just milk Sai Baba's memory. Later they will pick a family who wants to act this out, and even believe in it, that is easy to do. They will parade the Baby Baba around for years. Then train the kid how to do some magic tricks and speeches and hand-waving. That is 16+ ye
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Just imagine the competition amongst families and villages. Ferocious bribery will be going on behind the scenes. Wherever the next avatar emerges will be the next Money Volcano. Light a candle and pray for the poor kid who will inherit the tragic role. Or recite the Metta Compassion Sutra
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Sai Baba to be reincarnated as an abandoned baby in a village? Times of India Article All sounds very weird. I presume that the "industry" will find a suitable baby, and then take over. Sort of like "The Truman Show", but weirder.
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Guys, here's the deal. SSB brought lots of tourists to India. Money. Lots of money. A big boom for local businesses--airfare, transport from the Mumbai airport, hotels, hostels, transportation from Mumbai and Bangalore to Putthaparthi, lots of money to local businesses at Putthaparhi. SSB was more than a sacred cow. He was a cash cow--a walking Las Vegas and circus and Lourdes rolled
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That is a very good point. Its unreal that there were 176 lawsuits. And as stated, Japan is different than India, and there is more justice in the civil legal system in Japan. (that area of India with Sai Baba is off the charts of corruption) So SGI lost 84% of those lawsuits. Who filed them? Was it SGI? But yes, it proves factually that in fact SGI is just a big crooked business, usin
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Looks like Times Of India wants to get Taslima Nasreen kicked out of India, or worse.
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The only thing they post is from writer Taslima Nasreen, criticizing Sai Baba, who has already had death threats against her.
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The Sai Baba scam is a harsh and ugly lesson in corruption. The media corruption propaganda is off the charts. Sathya Sai Baba: The Living God Simple and simply beyond science Baba will return, say devotees
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When a sect gets so rich, and is localized in an area, they can have massive influence over the local government and law enforcement. Sai Baba is an example of that. They have over 9 billion in wealth, and have all of the politicians, media, judges, police in their pocket. To the point where murders in the ashram were not investigated, and sexual abuse reports of children were not investigate
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