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10 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Some freshly added stufs here Nothing new, but since lots of our researches disappeard in that f***ing forum update, I think anything is good to post. Have a nice day guys! Rick Ross sucks
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10 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
WHAT THE FUCK! There were 56 pages here last time I visited! :(
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
I found that new blog from an ex-disciple. Just sharing :)
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
LOL... how Ching Hai tries to "drown the fish" (to cloud the issue). She's probably erasing all her world-end bullshits from all her websites... big job! From french SMCHIA (I tried to correct Google translate's mistakes, but my english is not better) Last straight line before these two key dates, December 21, 2012 is supposed to be the final straw. However, it
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Welcome Rabbit_hole! Thank you so much, that's a very interesting story you share.
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
And hop! One more singer enrolled in a cult :
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Thanks Puresoul, good to add in the (pretty long) list...
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
I missed that cover from Scott Anderson, not bad uh? :) In order to set this cover in its context, I also join the link of the original article, which have been mentioned a long time ago :
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteRueo AnonI am an initiate of Master Ching Hai. I daresay that I have not always agreed with her teachings. In fact, I have been very openly critical of her (and fellow initiates) on many occasions. Yes, if I had known her personally, I probably would have even argued with her and received one of her infamous, almighty scoldings! Over time though, I have come to the conclusion that overal
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Wedding video reuploaded An other trick of Ching Hai and her communication team : It seems that they use bots to register fake accounts on multiple forums and automaticaly send propaganda posts. For example, if you Google that : "Tôi đã thấy ở trên mạng" sos2012 (the characters can't be displayed on this forum, but you can copy-
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuotetranIs Ching Hai initiation same as this in terms of reference to Master taking on Karma and obeying the law of the master? Also , in reference to refraining from sex and wedlock, is this also a vow to be taken when joining this group? It sounds like a very conservative approach to sex in such an area, given the type of people she may want to attract. Also on the subject of sexuality , ca
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11 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Hi, I think that the content of the link posted by puresoul on Sant Mat RSSB initiation is very interesting. I can't access it from where I am, only aviable through Google Cache In case it disappear in the next weeks, I copy it here : Quote (...) Since you used to carry out initiations for Thakar, it might be interesting for you to compare what you used to teach with a typic
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Waiter, There’s Woo in My Food, Part 2: Supreme Master Ching Hai The subject of the second post in my “Waiter, There’s Woo in My Food” series will be instantly recognizable to many vegans, Supreme Master Ching Hai. Supreme Master Ching Hai (SMCH) presides over a multi-million dollar empire encompassing hundreds of meditation centers, her own fashion and jewelry lines, her own line
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Here is an almost exhaustive résumé of what have been said : Waiter, There’s Woo in My Food, Part 2: Supreme Master Ching Hai on Skeptical Vegan. Published last week. No mention of this thread... Anyway, it's good to see some movement. These last 2 months there have been other new articles in english and vietnamese, I will add them soon.
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Look at this funny trick from SMTV, in their endless attempt to launder Ching Hai. Hey Matthew, what did you say about copyright infringement? ;) Wow wow wow... a true real famous anti-scam website is warning us about many scams on some "heroes" like Dalai Lama, Mother Theresa, and Ching Hai... Yeah, that's "Ching Hai" next to Dalai Lama and Mother Theresa. O
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteThe AnticultYou wonder if the Loving Hut in Saigon changed their videos due to customer complaints? That might be an effective strategy, to complain to the owner about the cultish Ching Hai videos, enough complaints and they might have to change it. You're maybe right. Or maybe SMTV has been forbidden in Vietnam, and they fear police control... I thought SMTV was terminated...
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
You're maybe right, but before making such accusation we may check if the service is so slow in lots of Loving Hut. If not then it can simply be due to the staff quality. The Loving Hut I've tried were not particulary slow to serve customers. The one in Paris is quite slow, but which french restaurant isn't? ;) The one in Hanoi is very very fast (but they don't even ask y
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
I think that Einstein being vegan is one of the most minor lies of Ching Hai (and a part of the vegan community). And this lie is not harmful. That's just vegan masturbation. The reallity of breatharianism (whom Ching Hai endorse as many other new age freaks) is far more dangerous. Idem for the necessity of selling one's house before the end of the world. Recently I've been
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteThe AnticultLooks like Tuttle missed a copy on a test webpage! www.worldpeacediet.org/test/award/ Archived! He even endorse the ridiculous SMTV video (linked under the Award)
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Anyway that was not a secret, Will, you still tell us about this award in your bio :) [archive] QuoteWill Tuttle's biographyI’m a recipient of The Peace Abbey’s “Courage of Conscience Award,” as well as the “Shining World Hero Award.” Many people know me from my #1 Amazon best-selling book, The World Peace Diet. Ah yeah, we almost forgot about your #1 Amazon best-selling book Congratu
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
IMPORTANCE OF ARCHIVING October 20, 2011 08:17AM QuoteThe AnticultWill Tuttle even got the "Shining World Hero Award" from Ching Hai back in 2009. worldpeacediet.org/Award.htm So lets get this straight. Ching Hai orders her followers to rig the Amazon.com system, to turn Will Tuttle's book into a faux "Bestseller" for an hour for deceptive marketing purpose
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
I found this website of Steven Alan Hassan. I don't know how reliable he is as a cult expert, but I found his website pretty informative. And there may be some stufs we could use in the perspective of building a file about Ching Hai. For exemple, when looking at this page : I think Ching Hai cult can fill almost all the different points listed. We could take each point as cathegorie
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Anyway Wikipedia is a very important tool which can be used to gather important revelations about Ching Hai, but it can (and it is) be used by the Ching Hai propaganda if not carefully controled time to time. Those I used to consider as "Ching Hai communication team" (mainly SMTV) often take part as contributors of Wikipedia and make attempts to hide or change some informations to make
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Actually the Wikipedia article is still critical about Ching Hai, some criticism may just have changed place, in different chapters.
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
I was quite surprised, when passing by Wikipedia Ching Hai article, to notice how much it seemed to have changed since the first time I've been there... Look at Ching Hai article on January 2010 And now look at the same article today : The "criticism" chapter drastically changed. Also a lot of other modifications, which can be followed on the log of this page : You can
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
It's a little bit out of subject, just in case we missed it : THE INVESTIGATORS July 31, 1997 Transcript Two invesitgators, hired by the President's legal trust fund, told the committee they were instructed to examine the contributions delivered by Charlie Trie, but to leave Mr. Trie alone. Kwame Holman reports on the last hearing prior to the August break. THE WEEK IN REVI
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Sorry if my point of view was confuse, sometimes I was talking about infos on Ching Hai, sometimes infos about cults in general. I know there are some (few) infos aviable in french about cults in general and some particular cults (mostly Scientology). If this "few" is still more than in other countries, it still looks "few" to me. And about Ching Hai there's almost not
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteThe AnticultFrance is not very friendly to cults or "secte". Search Google for: secte "ching hai" I'm sorry to contradict you, but this search on google doesn't lead to many material in french (nothing else than a few of what have already been linked in the french section of SupremeLeak). I gave my point of view about the situation in France toward se
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