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John Robbins is also a neighbor... EarthSave address : 20555 Devonshire Street, Ste. 105, Chatsworth, CA 91311 Supreme Master TV address : 122 A East foothill Blvd, #306 Arcadia, CA 91006 USA Pasadena Civic Auditorium (The Real Love) : 300 East Green Street, Pasadena, California 91101 Distance from EarthSave to SMTV : 38 miles, 43 minutes by car. Distance from EarthSave to Pasaden
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I was discussing on EarthSave in an other forum : EarthSave has a facebook page : As you can see, Ching Hai is their only "Likes" : A little bit strange for a humanitarian organisation. It seems Ching Hai is their only connection. Not any other organisation about health or environment in their address book... John Robbins is maybe a disciple of Ching Hai, and EarthSave is
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Quotetran(...)not justifying the groups existence at all, but heed what is said here, but maybe believe that differences can be overcome by sharing friendship or love together with others. That sentence seems particulary "inspired"... You know what you should do? A diary. I suggest you to title it The journey of an incredulous in a so called "dangerous cult". I mean a
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QuotedynamicRun the link through google translate to get the jist of the thing. Basically, in Vietnam, SMCH is totally underground except in the semi progressive city of Saigon. It's illegal to be a cult follower(of any cult) in a communist society. Even in Saigon, Loving Huts/vegan resturants affiliated and run by followers of SMCH do not list it as such and there is no SMCH propoganda o
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The joke of the day With Master's Bleachings
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About my friend who tries to mimic Ching Hai : I admit she's quite special, I don't say that all disciples do so. But I'm quite sure they are all more or less influenced and mimic some aspects of Ching Hai (begin with her way of life...)
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QuotetranHello, this is the link Thanks Why are you interested in this one in particular? I thought you were Vietnamese (your name Trân), or have vietnamese origins. I can translate the header for you, but translating the whole content would be too long for the time I have now, you should ask a Vietnamese. Don't you (or your parents) understand vietnamese language? >>&g
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@tran I didn't say you can't be friend. I personaly have a friend who is disciple of Ching Hai, she is still my friend and will remain my friend. But even if she tries (or pretends she tries) to avoid cultish subjects, she simply can't. I'll tell you why : everything disciples do is linked to their faith in Ching Hai. And the cult always tries to involve every aspects of th
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QuotetranDear friend, that reference to fellow brothers is in vietnamese, can someone care to eloborate on the story? Perhaps that may assist in us being more informed. Regards to all. What reference please?
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QuotetranI think we have to have believe . in people. try not to concentrate on the her teachings, but rather just the company of the friends who happen to follow her teachings. make it a non -discussion and things wil be ok. Thats what I find works, when we talk not much mention of teachings etc just talk about other stuff. so happy days and things can work.. with hope comes faith.. with
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QuotetranI know some people who have been in this group and know there are mixed experiences by the people, some good , some not so good . Ask yourself why those who left the cult all have bad experience, and all had similar issues. Ask yourself whether those who say they have a good experience are really self-thinking. QuotetranRecently, have been getting to know people better in this gro
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QuotetranDear friends, I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt; I do believe there are moderate followers who may see things in a different perspective. For eg, there are Islamic extremists but that does not mean that all Muslims are bad. I think that even within this group there will be good decent people. Even though the master seems strange perhaps we need to also consider th
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@tran It's not only an appearance. They are nice friendly people (at least the "true believers") and convinced they are doing good. The problem is not being vegan or meditate daily. These are just personal choices, habits, belief, way of life, etc. And if you love a vegan, I bet you can happily become vegan yourself. Your first impression reminds me my the first times wi
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@ Tran : >>>do people have a hard time with family memebrs and friends involved with this? Yes, as it is with most of abusive cults. Disciples are constantly brainwashed and progressively lose contact with reality and it's always difficult to handle for all kind of relatives. Disciples try to convert their family, and if not possible, become more and more isolated. Friends also
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just sharing... QuoteGoing door to door is a method some new religions have utilized as well, though it is a much slower means to spread the meme than is available. A more powerful way to reach a larger audience is through mass media outlets. New religions advertise now on the radio, on the television and, with an even greater result due to a worldwide audience, on the internet. Utiliz
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Copyright infringements ? (2) Short sequences from HOME (a film by Yann Arthus-Bertrand - 2009) are very often used by SMTV to seduce the disciples, to convince them about the hurry to save our beautiful planet, and of course to conceal Ching Hai's evil activities, to generate money ("non demanded" donations to save the world). Anyway, with or without money behind, I doubt that
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QuoteKoldinQuoteOcean_Of_LiesCan someone explain what is a "Gift certificate" ? (on Celestial Shop website) (it really costs $100) It looks like a way to donate money... Yes, these are vouchers the disciples buy to give to friends & family as gifts on maybe special occasions(birthdays etc) instead of buying them say a normal present(perfume, shoes, cellphone etc). The r
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An excellent video I got from BiscayneNationalPark's YouTube playlist : It can perfectly apply to Ching Hai's cult. The transcription : (the videoclip in that page is low-quality) By the way enjoy the background picture of the channel, it won't last long until smtv pass by (Hello smtv staff by the way, I hope at least it made you smile) (sorry for people who have a sm
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Can someone explain what is a "Gift certificate" ? (on Celestial Shop website) (it really costs $100) It looks like a way to donate money...
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@Koldin : thanks! I got it :) @No Master : Very nice! Spiritual points Here I got some new amazing stuffs from the Queen of Nonsense. I was recently talking about spiritual points, and I found that video : 2010-12-07 How to Get the Most Blessings + the full transcription (on suprememastertv.com) Ching Hai explain in detail the spiritual points system (really begins at 06:00) That
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Interesting : The Supreme Master TV documentary about Jasmuheen have mysteriously disappeared... I can't find it on YouTube either. SMTV may try to remove it from everywhere, since Jasmuheen have been debunked : Breatharian FAIL It is still aviable on Kweego platform, but I can't download it with DownloadHelper. Do anyone know how to do it? search Google "supremem
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The Murky Sea of Cult Money on HumaneWatch.org Source : Remember “Supreme Master” Ching Hai? She’s the reputed Taiwanese cult leader we reported on last year. That’s when HSUS’s top (vegan) M.D., Michael Greger, got cozy enough with Ching Hai to appear on her “Supreme Master TV” network. Now we’ve learned that Ching Hai’s in
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(I appologize cos I'm going to say some boring obvious facts, but I believe those facts are not obvious for everybody) So, for those among disciples that would pass by this thread, and naively think "Oh these poor ignorant people are under the influence of Maya, they tell lies to debunk our beloved Master, that's nothing but a conspiracy against her as usual, the musical The Rea
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Copyright infringements ? ;) Screenshots from the video "THE REAL LOVE: A NEW MUSICAL" on YouTube /watch?v=re66ejVlZXk Only a high-level disciple could be blind enough to believe these low-quality photomontages...
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@Greenleef Thanks for sharing your experience and feelings! But beware of feeling any guilt about the fact Ching Hai may have become power-mad because of you disciples. I can't agree with that, even if there may be a part of the explanation here. But that's not disciples who proclamed her "supreme master". She was auto-proclamed supreme master from the begining. Su that&
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@Puresoul Your first document is extremely interesting to me, because my friend (disciple of Ching Hai, vietnamese) have told me about that dissident of Ching Hai. She may have received the same letter. Cult stories are repeating... who's next? :) Thanks also for The Truth Seeker, never heard about before. EDIT : I'm joking about "who's next", but actually tha
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Here is a recent video from SupremeMasterTV where Ching Hai debates about breatharianism The Difference Between Quan Yin Method and Breatharianism P1 (part 2 coming soon, I presume...) At minute 10:20, she tries to explain to the few followers in the room that eating different vegetables in the same meal is not good for health... :) At 11:45 : "As I told you already, the food is ju
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That's just crazy! O_o' QuoteURGENT LIVE BROADCAST FROM SUPREME MASTER CHING HAI: par Supreme Master TV, mardi 23 août 2011, 19:10 Recently, with a deep yearning for the world’s conflicts to subside, Supreme Master Ching Hai courageously revealed which leaders’ headquarters are located near or on roads and sub-portals leading to the lower worlds and hell, along wi
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Here are some new links for the wedding video : (comments allowed) Direct dowlnoad (37,65 MB) : Torrent file : Supreme Master Ching Hai Kisses her young bridegroom in 1997.torrent
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