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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteThe AnticultThere are reports that Ching Hai was buying up large tracts of land in Cambodia. QUOTE: "Other religious leaders in Taiwan are barely polite. The secretary-general of the Taoist Association says he has information that she has bought up vast tracts of land in Cambodia. Master Chinhsing, a Buddhist monk of Vietnamese origin who may have been Ching Hai's mentor, dis
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteThe AnticultThere are reports that Ching Hai was buying up large tracts of land in Cambodia. QUOTE: "Other religious leaders in Taiwan are barely polite. The secretary-general of the Taoist Association says he has information that she has bought up vast tracts of land in Cambodia. Master Chinhsing, a Buddhist monk of Vietnamese origin who may have been Ching Hai's mentor, dis
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Did Ching Hai really ever make a conference at the UN? I hear my friend sometimes telling me that. Does she refers to this kind of fake official conference? Apparently, she manage well by organizing a conference in a place near the White House, and making flyers with an "official atmosphere". I wonder what followers think about this trick.
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteStoicThis site maintains an archive of articles on Ching Hai (as well as on many other dubious groups): so any new and worthwhile articles found could be submitted there also. Its always good to have multiple sites where such information can be accessed. Exact. By the way you'll notice RickRoss/Ching Hai webpage is the first mentioned reference in the list. And it's no
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
The idea is also to keep archived copies in case some articles may disappear, and also to enrich the copies by linking them to other related articles, quotes, videos, criticizes, or any future global analysis. Everything can be commented as well, and multiple users can contribute by adding themselves more stuffs inside.
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Here is a list of articles about Ching Hai. Nothing new, but the idea is to concentrate the informations about Ching Hai in one single place, including different languages. Then the wiki could evolve (with more people), or just remain like this, maybe with updates when new articles are published.
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuotepuresoulQuoteOcean_Of_Lies But anyway, we can say whatever we want about her ugly face, she still has an DNA much more perfect than our DNA, even more than The Buddha himself's DNA (this have been determined by very advanced machines!), which definitely proves that we are shit compared to her totally-opened-chakras body. Definitely, she also claimed she is Super being, the original b
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
@Stoic "Asceticism Does Not Denote a Master" QuoteInterview from Radio 720 "Believe It Or Not" - November 28, 1999 Johannesburg, South AfricaM.C.: Let's talk to Ivan. I: I have been reading the booklet, "The Key of Immediate Enlightenment." It is a wonderful booklet. There's hardly anything that one can disagree with. It's all the same, th
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteStoic'She would probably say that her superpowers are only effective in the spiritual world, in the various levels of conciousness she can freely travel in, and where she plays and talks with the other gods and buddhas (even martians!).' So her imaginary superpowers are only effective in her imagination? No wonder, then, that she is so interested in the business of taking o
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteStoicWhat I would really like to know, after watching some of Ching Hai's talks via TV to her acolytes, is why such a self-proclaimed, accomplished Master would put up with such a fourth-rate facelift that one eye and one side of her mouth shows nerve damage from a botched job of surgery? Surely her self-proclaimed miraculous superpowers would have led her to a better-trained surge
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
One of the most powerful falacious argument from sophism that a liar can use to escape critics, consist in reversing the burden of proof : It's not me to prove that what I say is true, if you don't believe so you have to prove that it's not true Actually it's probably impossible to prove that Ching Hai is not the reincarnation of Jesus. Because paranormal statements are har
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Actually there is a "QuanYin method" which seems to be a (the?) Light & Sound meditation method (see links below). I can't read all that's stuf cos it's too long and complex for the time I have devote. But when reading quickly, I notice some similitudes with the arguments Ching Hai uses to promote her own method. Maybe ex-dicsiples could read that and tell us if it&#
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Continuing about the Ching Hai's QuanYin convenient interpretation : Quotehttp://godsdirectcontact.us/method.htmlThe Chinese characters "Quan Yin (Guan Yin) " mean contemplation of the Sound Vibration. The Method includes meditation on both the inner Light and the inner Sound. These inner experiences have been repeatedly described in the spiritual literature of all the world�
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
The path to all SMTV's documentaries about breatharianism : > shows > between masters & disciples > Breatharianism - Meet individuals who live without food Before I didn't realize it was so hudge, and I understand now why you Anticult are insisting on it. Actually it is a well-running productive TV series, with a standard introduction, and a spoken comment in various l
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteStoicInteresting that she calls her method of meditation the Quan Yin method. Quan Yin is the goddess of compassion, a mother figure in the pantheon of SE Asian gods, and Ching Hai aligns herself with just such a mother figure, pouring out the waters of compassion for the vulnerable people that she targets. Is there a link between the goddess Quanyin and the San Mat meditation method? B
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteThe AnticultChing Hai has also created a marketing system to go mainstream. For example, her slogan, --- Be Veg, Go Green 2 Save the Planet! --- that is absolutely brilliant Ching Hai mass media marketing. Because, in this day and age, who is against Going Green and saving the planet? Who is against eating more Veggies? So this gives Ching Hai a perfect cover to try t
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
You got from me the rough words you may have deserved. As for the rest, you should't lose too much time in useless paranoia. You overestimate me :) Sorry guys, I'll try not spoiling the thread again in the future.
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Dear Stoic, in my last entry, I apologized 3 times for what I wrote inaccurately and could have make you upset. I also tried to make you clearly understand what was my point about, but you keep trying to make me say what I'm not saying. It's not a problem of telling the audience what is true or false, and what they have to think. It's a problem of not concealing the evidences in or
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Then we can question ourself how much we should concentrate on that breatharian question, considering that it's just a part of Ching Hai's technique for mind control, and maybe not the most important one. It seems to me that disciples are much more worried by the necessity to erradicate meat consumption than reaching a breatharian way of life (which can be seen more like an ideal tha
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteStoicQuoteOcean_Of_LiesIt's ridiculous to imagine that one member of the filming crew could have possibly believed one second that the boy was not feeded during the night, when it's impossible to look at him. But the documentary doesn't even imply that fact. The documentary stated that fact several times--where else did you get it from? Yes, they did discreetly mentioned tha
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteStoic'the "documentary" intentionally avoided to take a stand by concluding if it was true or fake.' I think that it is wise to accept that even so-called 'serious' documentary makers generally avoid making such strong and rigid conclusions on behalf of their audience. You could see that as the media having a primary function to entertain not educate, or ma
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
I just watch the "documentary", to me that's a shameless scam. The movie was supposed to bring light (and possibly proofs) on a so-called miracle (a boy living on air since months), by sending a westerners team in order to film the boy continuously during 96 hours. But... they forgot to bring an infrared spot in order to film during the night. What a pity... they may thought tha
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Discovery Channel documentary on breatharian Prahlad Jani Part 1: Part 2: Part 3: Part 4: Part 5:
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuotepuresoulBelow is smch's letter in 2005O_o this is really... enlightening! Now I understand afterward some of the strange behaviors of my friend (still a disciple). How do you manage to count and attest your points? In the diary? Do some disciple cheat to jump to upper level? Can you buy extra points?
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
As all of you know, Supreme Master Ching Hai International Association is a cybersect. Ching Hai team uses internet for faster promotion, and keep disciples under pressure by sending them emails almost everydays (to recall them for meditation days, to sell Ching Hai's products, to organize any kind of propaganda actions, and to encourage disciples to work for free on many things). So I th
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuotedynamicThere were actually quite a few disiples that went down to haiti, including quite a few highly trained medical staff. Some have spent a couple of months down there working non stop for the benefit of the Haitians. I have nothing against the disciples, at heart, they are kind and wonderful people. However, as always they go selflessly and go as "ambassadors" of SMCH and SM
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
An article on The Unsuitablog Ching Hai: Supreme Master…Of Hypocrisy, by Keith Farnish http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/03/31/ching-hai-supreme-masterof-hypocrisy/ Keith Farnish have been spotted by Ching Hai's team after he wrote a pro-vegetarian article, What If...We All Became Vegan?, on an other blog whom Keith is also the author : The Earth Blog. So the article Ch
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
An interesting video which list most of the recent lies of Ching Hai on SMTV : Supreme Master Ching Hai International Association 2010 in Review Timecode of some notable parts : 00:30 : Internatonal Disaster Relief : A long enumeration of all her (probably fake) humanitarian activities. I'd really like to ask disciples if they have ever seen a full documentary showing Ching Hai�
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteThe AnticultThat is a great idea, start a wiki on a site to organize the actual real info about Ching Hai and her organization. Even if it doesn't last forever, then at least the core doc can be saved and posted. As far as Wikipedia, there have been some outrageous things done on there with various cults, as sect members will work 24/7, and usually win, as regular folks just get tire
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