You people here would be amazed if u knew half the stuff members do , I was in the band for 10 months , all we used to do is go around to local bars and party. chill dog always keeps a bottle of vodka in the fridge.it was a joke..fight would beak out all the time, everybody sleeping with every body! Yeah you to chill so u dont have to save face for renee, who u always tried to make seem she felt
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My venting part two! So after I was illegally booted out on the street some really nice people took me in that go to the church...trust me those people are few and far between! When word got out about who was helping me ..pastor jason called the person up and started yelling and screaming at them! Wow! Can you believe that? Pastor sceaming at a devout member who tithes just because she decided t
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I was blackballed. Out of the church. i was a high profile figure who was brought out from california . i know the entire aguilar family very very very wel and grew up in their church as a teenager. After exposing some wrong doings I was thrown out on to street in Richmond Va, know ing nothing about the city..I lived in RSUM..I was hired to be apart of the music ministy and G' s Brother Chi
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Wake up people please! Geronimo learned his stlye of preaching from his Dad..but he was ordained by Pastor Jack Shapp in Hammond Indiana ..who is a "Babtist" and a 33rd degree Freemason..don't belive me? Look it up yourself its true. I don't know for a fact is G is a mason but its very common in mega churches in the south esspecailly..please do your research ! Aslo people hav
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Friend. Of bill....the reason why the members won't "wake up" and leave the ROC is becuase its a CULT ...the people are mixed up with many types of emotions..first of all many of them are in "awe" simply because of how big the place is! Rock n roll music basketball courts wieght rooms food court etc..and all the "activities " they keep u involed in alone will k
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Interesting...I haven't noticed hower I noticed the postings here have really slowed down! Is there another site out there?I would love to continue warning people about the joke of church...Eph 5 -11 tells me to exopose the unfuitfull works of darkness.
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I said before the only reason I post here is becuase (I KNOW FOR A FACT) that G and his family read the postings here and they scatter like phycos to find out who the "posters" are the ask around and intimadate freind of theirs! lol! .Pastor G also instructs the congregation not to pay attention to them and CLOSELY monitors all internet usage at the ROC @ I guess they should have been d
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G is not as famous as tigerwoods so it wouldn't matter any way! He not famous at all he just ththinks he is lol! Its not only G its his whole family and all his brothers they all cheaton their wifes continually..and use members as "resourses" I don't blame then because if a person is is that naive to think God almighty is really blessing that place ..why not take advantage of
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Are you serious lol! .. check this out Bro ...3 page pages ago you said (quote) " i have not yet seen anything on here that isnt true" so you should make it clear where you stand cuz your starting to make me wonder..if you dont like my postings dont resopond to them..however I looks like i need to explain basic things to you that you dont undertand cuz you keep missing the point.. of
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Well call it what you want Hididng4areason I dont have to explain anything to you any since youve been here complaining for a year @ least!and dont even knoe you but Bottom line is all off us here on this posting feel like we have all been done wrong in some way by the ROC..not everbody experience have been the same. so we should not be fighting here against each other.
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Theres no doubt the ROC and most churches uses their tax exempt status to "Clean House"its called spiritual "pimpin" or selling hopes, dreams, and salvation you name it . In the late 70s 80s & 90s pimps were getting "out" of the game but kept their caddilacs & suits and opened churches! now to be in the game you gotta drive a "Rolls" or a Mecedes. I
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Yes thats exacly what im saying G decided to out of the Blue start the soldiers, based off his dads soldiers but not in cohoots with him.. sounds wierd i know but it true. he learned how to run that place from his dad but not with his dads "blessings" he kinda just left his dad and took alot of key people from his dads church with him. If G gives him money so what? its his Dad... but G
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Sorry (I KNOW ) ..but you dont know. I was @ the grand opening @ the big house . I know phill was there , I was in meetings discucussing him comming out! I know what happened why more than u. It took several weeks of back and forth before they got him an a plane to come mainly due to past & current issues I wont get into ..It was a big step in the family to have him come/ & there was alot
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Hismercy... Im starting to agree with you posting here in a waste of time, it goes nowhere and nobdy takes action anyway & not sure if there is a way to take action. I moved on & got my life back so living in the past really dosent benifit me/ I simply just learned a lesson and now i learned how to identify cults & how easliy somone can use the bible to keep u in a form of slavery..
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ROCSUS...Dude are you really serious ? NOTHING in that article says anything about someone getting killed in newport beach or The ROC getting money form a drug deal that turned into a murder! thats what you are claiming & thats he posting what I responded to. Do you know how to read or are you are putting a bunch of topics together for the sake of it ..Then you quoted the LA times lol! a pa
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Rucsus.. you are now just making stuff up ! . I know the aguilars very well , Pastor phil his sons and extended family. G was in Virgina YEARS before the Hells Angles fight took place and really dosent want much to do with his Dad/ or the situation let alone recieve pay offs from drug deals gone bad! Yes there was a stabbing in Newport Beach but Set Free did not start the fight and NOBODY WAS KIL
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I have seen people go "soul winning" on many occasaions intimadating non members who are fully are this place is a cult..!soulwinning is soley to get more members in...when I was there I never went soulwinning unless I went on my own..id pray with people but never handed out a roc flyer! As long as I shared th "good news " i t was ok with me. I got rigiculed for actuall readin
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This church is filled with lies and gossip that is more rampant than high school! Ive never felt the spirit move once in that place, his sermons are boring and meaningless, ..the funny thing is poeple know it and dont care ! the music and the entertainment blind thier eyes! the inner circle bassicaly does what ever they want, they continually use intimadation tactics, the poor people in the homes
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MOST OF YOU PEOPLE WHO DEFEND THE ROC ON THIS SITE TALK MESS AND COMPLAIN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND YOU KNOW IT LOL! I HAVE HEARD YOU DO IT ! YOU JUST KNOW AFTER SERVICE YOU WILL BE APART OF THE "IN CROWD" AND BE TAKEN TO DINNER LOL! THE ROC IS FULL OF SNITCHES AND GOSSIPERS..THEY DO IT TO SELL THE NEXT PERSON OUT TO GAIN A POSTION OF MEANINGLESS POWER OR TO GET A BIGGER ROOM AT THE POIN
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feds aint shut place down yet? darn thought i was see some progress on here lol! guess not oh well.
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Please keep posting...I know for a fact they read everyone of these posts lol! the are so parinoid their cult is going to colapse before the money runs out or before they all "come up", before or jesus comes back lol! These people are a joke , Jason , G, Tim, Ranch, whoever... Cult Cult Cult , text book definition in every single way I lived so I know , thank you Jesus i was set free/
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Friend of bill, you can read me scripture until you're blue in the face, you must be a roc defender, i honestly dont give dam what daniel 2:20 says people have been misquoting the bible for over 2000 years! Im consulting leagal help, they brake laws daily..so ill ask the question again does anybody have anything specific we could all file a class action law suit on ? instead of comming in
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There has to be a way to sue the ROC! ACLU , LABOR BOARD ETC something.. they are scared of something, CULTS that are scared and destroy people lives all are in fear.. They live in fear over there. any ideas?
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Now for those who cant 'shake' the emotions of the buss kids (witch is a good thing to help them) but you are confused and praise G for this acheivment.. you have to UNDERSTAND that the ROC is not a church, Do you see any sign that says "CHURCH" when you pull up to the parking lot? No you dont..But you do see, laundry mat, Cafe, Tatto, Massgae, Gym, etc. This is because the bu
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Free at last, you are correct in the fact, that the anger is real and fairly recent,I aslo could of convyed the posting in a more assertive way. The caps were more for purposes of getting my point accross. I have not lost my faith in God, I was "Hip" to how alot of churches operate and twist scripture to their own agenda years ago..but it still gets me. I feel so sorry for the people
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]THE ROC LEADERSHIP ALL HAVE MAFIOSO MINDSETS! SINCE NONE OF THE AGUILARS HAVE ANY EDUCATION ..THEY OPEN CULTS,"NAME DROP" JESUS ITIMADATE PEOPLE AND GET RICH ! THEY DONT CARE A THING ABOUT YOU. . THEY USE YOU UP SPIRITUALY,MENTALY, CREATIVELY, AND FINANCAILLY, UNTIL YOU ARE DESTROYED. WHO CARES HOW MANY BUSSKIDS THEY BRING IN ? THE LONGER YOU PEOPLE LET THE "BUSSKIDS" TUG A
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I WAS IN THE INNER CIRCLE AND I SAW IT ALL!!!..I CANT BELIEVE PEOPLE CANT SEE ITS A CULT LOL! ITS SOO MIND BLOWING! AFTER I LEFT THESE PEOPLE TRY TO DESTROY MY REPUTATION AND INTIMIDATE ME AND MY FRIENDS! I DON'T CARE HOW MANY BUS KIDS THEY PICK UP ..THEY ARE WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING..THIS PLACE IS SICK AND TWISTED BEYOND EXPRESSION! I PRAY THIS CULT GETS SHUT DOWN SOON.
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